Fogger v5?

[Frocket]

Interested, that's for sure. Lack of post holes is a pain on the V4. Top fill may be nice.

I wish they'd do something about that AFC ring, though - in order to get a wide open draw, I took the ring off. Kind of dumb to have an AFC ring that blocks 50% of the airflow when opened up.

 

[zipflint]

Swapped out the spring loaded posts for the regular screws. You guys were right, it's easy peasy. Much better now too, Ohms are stable and it puts out every bit as good as my V4 Foggers. Still gettin' a little leaking out of the air flow holes upon the initial fill, but not much. I've been keeping the AFC closed while filling, next time I'll try it with it wide open.

 

[350ZMO]

Sweet 350zmo! Glad to hear your spring posts are working for you. I rebuilt mine and it was stable when i put the coils in but when i go to adjust the coils it starts getting wonky. Love the donuts havent had a chance to use them so let me know how they vape in the v5 im sure they will rock with that kind of surface area. Also let me know how you ended up wicking it.

The trick for me is always matching power to juice flow to get a cool dense vape, not hot or dry. So the objective is to flow as much juice as possible without leaking. On my first wick attempt, it leaked like a sieve until juice level lowered in the tank until about deck level. No amount of draw or blowing would stop it. Indicating too little wicking issue. But at that juice level point I could throw 24 watts at it and have gobs of wet saturated vapor, very much like what I can get out of the Kaiser. But the leaking was unacceptable so I put a little more wick wrapping around the build at the base just above juice channels and poked wick down in the channels. This stopped the leaking but juice flow was greatly reduced so I reduced power to 18 watts and vape was still unacceptable. Third attempt I took the wrap off and out of the channels and added a little less wrap back but it still leaked a little. So fourth attempt added a little wrap back again and I'm able to get 22W but it does leak ever so slightly. As long as level in the tank is at about top of glass its fine, fill er up and it leaks slightly. So almost there. Going to enjoy this for a while but it may need a little wick pulled into the juice channels or a little more wrap added around the base again.

This diagram should show how I wick. I only use Rayon.
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After the donuts are mounted and resistance confirmed I stick a toothpick through the holes then take a bit of rayon and flatten it out to about a 1/4" wide and very thin and feed it under the bottom of the donut between the donut and deck and saw it back and forth while rolling behind donut and pulling up slightly so the band is half way up the back of the donut until it reaches the leads. This covers the bottom inside of the donut. Then add the same size band on top to cover the top inside. Then cut the ends of the bands to length so the ends will fall down to touch the deck but still covering the donut. Helps to cut at an angle, top has to go farther than bottom to reach deck. Then I wet and push the ends down to meet the deck top. Repeat on opposite side. Next is about a 1/2" wide but thin wrap around the build to cover the outside of the donuts. Sometimes over the top instead of around just depending on clearance from posts to chamber ID. At this point I wet the wrap and wiggle (don't twist) the toothpick so there is a hole all the way through the wicking and center of donuts and remove the toothpick Not shown in the diagram is where I take about a 1/16" to 1/8" diameter roll of rayon and wrap it somewhat tightly around the base just on top of the deck over the juice channels if I have leaks. Then this I can add to or pull down into the juice channels to stop leaking.

Not withstanding the donuts, wicking this thing is as temperamental as the Kaiser. With the Kaiser, the heating element is at the same level as the juice channels. So it flows juice like crazy allowing you to kick up the watts but can leak like a sieve too. With the V5, the heating elements are a lot closer to the juice channels ie shorter wick length than the BIG fogger. Appears about the same to the V4. After much trial and error I can get it just to that point where it flows gobs of juice but not leak. Sometimes when it leaks just slightly after blowing to clear just vape time helps to seat the wicking and stop the leak. But it is a trial and error process every time. Even when I get it there is no formula to exactly repeat it first time on the next build. Though practice does help. Good thing these donut builds last for a month or longer. It will test your patience and wicking skills and get messy. Be prepared to fill and un-fill over and over.

 

[350ZMO]

Interested, that's for sure. Lack of post holes is a pain on the V4. Top fill may be nice.

I wish they'd do something about that AFC ring, though - in order to get a wide open draw, I took the ring off. Kind of dumb to have an AFC ring that blocks 50% of the airflow when opened up.

Amen. There is a simple mod to the airflow control ring so it will allow full flow. Open up airflow by screwing the ring up all the way, mark the ring with a sharpie where the airholes are. Then use a small rat tail file to file notches in the ring where the marks are.

 

[dynoman2002]

Amen. There is a simple mod to the airflow control ring so it will allow full flow. Open up airflow by screwing the ring up all the way, mark the ring with a sharpie where the airholes are. Then use a small rat tail file to file notches in the ring where the marks are.

I have my airflow ring on and my hole is not obstructed what so ever. Wide open hole.

 

[350ZMO]

I have my airflow ring on and my hole is not obstructed what so ever. Wide open hole.

Wow can you take a close up pic like this:

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[LArifleMAN]

I can't get mine to stop leaking ARRRRGGGGGG

 

[wrath186]

I'd be interested in seeing that too. I have V4s and can't figure out why the ring covers half the hole. I've just been dealing with it.

 

[dynoman2002]

Heres the v5 and 4.3 airhole. I gave my 4.1 to a friend of mine but the airhole was also wide open.

 

[dynoman2002]

I can't get mine to stop leaking ARRRRGGGGGG

If your using high pg liquid use a 1mm flathead to push a bit of your wick in the juice channels (dont pack it in). I raised my coils a bit also and that helped too so my cotton surrounded the airflow holes on the deck.

 

[350ZMO]

Heres the v5 and 4.3 airhole. I gave my 4.1 to a friend of mine but the airhole was also wide open.
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With the airflow control ring screwed all the way down is the bottom cup that holds the oring for the glass screwed all the way down?

 

[350ZMO]

Cool, an even easier mod is to screw the bottom oring cup up to give the airflow control ring clearance to screw up far enough to give full clearance for the airholes.

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[ModBox]

Excited - hope I could get it in brass or that lovely new brown colour they have in the v5.

 

[dynoman2002]

Cool, an even easier mod is to screw the bottom oring cup up to give the airflow control ring clearance to screw up far enough to give full clearance for the airholes.

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Exactly it doesnt need to be threaded all the way down just catch a few threads and ur good to go. Sorry was in a hurry should have put a description.

 

[readeuler]

Exactly it doesnt need to be threaded all the way down just catch a few threads and ur good to go. Sorry was in a hurry should have put a description.

Is this different from the v4? I considered screwing the cup on very loosely to expose more of those air holes, but the v4 is new to me and I decided to just remove the ring. I guess it shouldn't make a difference loosely screwed, as long as the tank is firmly pressed against the o-ring.

 

[dynoman2002]

Is this different from the v4? I considered screwing the cup on very loosely to expose more of those air holes, but the v4 is new to me and I decided to just remove the ring. I guess it shouldn't make a difference loosely screwed, as long as the tank is firmly pressed against the o-ring.

It works the same way on the v4. Once the tank is screwed down it makes everything nice and tight. So how has the v4 been treating you?

 

[Supchaka]

I have a v4 and i like it. It can be a bit of a pill to build and was damn near impossible for me to get 24g wire around the posts. My complaints about it were the airflow was weak and the ring too loose, (you can put a little thread lock on it) Wicking can be fun too. I killed 3 birds with one stone by taking off the ring and drilling out the air holes to 1.93mm. It solved the airflow problem (for me), since the hole got drilled out it tightened up the threads on the ring, no more thread lock. For some reason after that it seems the tank is less finicky about the wick, and I lean towards using more cotton than less now.

With the AFC removed completely I ran a .25 build on it. It was too hot for me being that it has a small chamber, it was fun for a few days though. My normal is a dual 8 wrap 28g with ring on. I'll vape it anywhere from 12-30 watts on my sigelei and the flavors good all the way through. I always fill from the bottom with a dropper and you just gotta push it hard against the hole and it goes. I try not to let it run real low between fills either. I'll definitely be trying out the v5

 

[jistjul]

Got my V5 from eBay for $25.95 from 123 Vaporizers. Ordered it on the 8th and it arrived on the 10th!! My story is similar to everyone else's. Disappointed that the "push posts" are lame, but the screws make up for it. I didn't even bother to try the posts, just took them off immediately. I am disappointed in the top fill. I didn't believe others when they said that you can only fill it with a needle tip or syringe. The reason being that many also said they could only fill their V4.1 with a needle or syringe and that was not my experience. Turns out it is true. You can only fill with a needle or syringe - which I do not have. I made a narrow plastic tip work, but not without a great deal of mess. Oh, then let's talk about leaking. I swear 1/3 of what I put in came straight out of the air holes and literally ran down the side of my battery. Now, I have been building the 4.1 for a few months now and have reached a point where I know exactly how to wick my 4.1 without leaks. To be fair, my 4.1 always has a very small amount of leakage from the air holes when I first fill it. But It is VERY VERY slight and goes away after the first few hits. This was unbelievable, and my husband glowered at me while I swore and fussed with it and said things like "sometimes it's okay to leave 'well-enough' alone." He glowered because my V5 was a complete impulse buy and I know better than to buy the first upgrade before they work out the kinks. From what I read here, I should play with my wicking style a bit and find a sweet spot that is different than my 4.1. But thus far, I have not been able to completely fill the tank. The more full it is, the more it leaks. Stops when it reaches the top of the glass area. Even after all of this pita stuff, I am happy I bought it solely because of the holes in the posts. I found the biggest pita with the 4.1 to be trying to wrap the leads around the screw while getting the length just right and the tension just right to be maddening. If I could have the 5 deck and afc with the 4.1 bottom fill I would be close to as happy as I would be if you could access your build while the tank is full - which would be nirvana.

 

[readeuler]

It works the same way on the v4. Once the tank is screwed down it makes everything nice and tight. So how has the v4 been treating you?

It's gone well, thanks for asking. I'm still a noob to building and wicking, so things are occasionally harsh; I haven't figured out how far the coils should be from the airholes (close but not too close, I imagine). But I'm getting the hang of building it, and I've seen about 3 drops worth of leaking over the past 3 days.

I'm really loving the vapor production, still working on getting the taste up to par. Overall I prefer the v4 to my Kayfun hands down, so I'll probably be investing in the v5 at some point. I just wanted to wait it out, make sure it's a keeper.

 

[350ZMO]

...leave 'well-enough' alone."...

Where's the fun in that?!

After fiddling this morning I removed the bottom band of wick and pulled more of the wrap wicking down into the grooves with a toothpick. And was able to stop the leaking finally due to raising the airflow control ring allowing a better clearing and by vaping it a while, now I can fill it almost all the way. Settled in at 22W. I found clearing it after a fill (inverting upside down holding a paper towel around the base and blowing to get the excess juice out of the chamber and air holes) stops it from siphoning. In other words if I don't clear it, it continues to leak. With unrestricted airholes and clearing it stops the leaking. It appears to me that when the airholes were restricted it was difficult to clear and siphoned easier. Now after filling, clearing and vaping for a while I can screw the airflow ring down to get more vacuum and juice flow and then screw it up for an airy draw so it appears to be working right but tends to be dry.

Since I'm using donuts, the center of the wicking is higher so effectively it is this technique with raised airflow control ring and rayon that worked:

If your using high pg liquid use a 1mm flathead to push a bit of your wick in the juice channels (dont pack it in). I raised my coils a bit also and that helped too so my cotton surrounded the airflow holes on the deck.

Thanks dynoman2002

Overall I am pleased to be tinkering with it and was able to get it to work without leaking but still not where I would like to be on the wicking. It's just not flowing the juice without leaking like I can get with the Kaiser. I don't expect the vape ever to be as good as the Kaiser due to the heating element height relative to the juice channels and longer wick length but it should be a wetter vape than it is. But the Kaiser only fits one donut so the V5 should be nearly as good with a lot more volume. Just not there yet. I'll have to totally re-wick it. Love the top fill like the Kaiser but no tiny/jewelers screwdriver needed. My push posts are working fine. I like that the only tools I need to rebuild is a toothpick and clippers which I carry with me anyways. With that said, it still doesn't flow the juice like the Kaiser does without leaking. With a single donut in the Kaiser I'm able to throw 18W into it and get a better tasting vape than 22W on this dual donut v5 - better to me is a cooler denser wetter flavor packed unrestricted vape. In fact my kayfun with a single donut at 14W is doing better than the V5. And since I have the top fill mod for the kayfun, the only positive for the V5 so far for me is the push posts.

But it is fun to tinker. The others took a lot of tinkering to get right as well so with time I know I'll get there.