For experienced users of high nicotine levels only PLEASE!!! 36mg/ml is not enough for me!!!

[AmandaD]

No. That's the thing, I never smoked. I simply love the nicotine and started by essentially using only nicotine polacrilex bucally.

The Reo mini I use is capable of making any room I vape in hazy. It is a vapor beast in spite of its small size.

I think that 36mg/ml isn't really all that high. It isn't comparable to a smoke, most likely 40mg/ml to 50mg/ml is more comparable.

36mg/ml is definitely weaker in effect than a 2mg nicorette lozenge, imo.

It's also the best nic delivery system out there (along with other RDAs). I also use cartotanks, and they hit less hard than the Reo (but I sometimes prefer them for the less in-your-face flavor).

If you never smoked, it's probably not as hard to lower your nic level as those of us that did smoke for a gazillion years LOL Given the future state of probable nicotine regulation that will affect all of us you may feel safer planning for a decrease!

 

[cotinine]

It's also the best nic delivery system out there (along with other RDAs). I also use cartotanks, and they hit less hard than the Reo (but I sometimes prefer them for the less in-your-face flavor).

If you never smoked, it's probably not as hard to lower your nic level as those of us that did smoke for a gazillion years LOL Given the future state of probable nicotine regulation that will affect all of us you may feel safer planning for a decrease!

Hmm. Sounds crappy. Am I the only one growing tired of the scarcity-worshipping control freaks?

 

[twgbonehead]

I have always bought my liquids at the highest nic levels available; 36mg if they have it, otherwise 24mg. ("Always" being about 5 months now)

I also have some flavored glycerine (0mg) that I alternate with when I can. But I definitely needed the high-nic to get started, and still use it most of the time.

You can always vape more. (Trust me, I have!) If 36mg isn't working, the only thing I can suggest is to drink more water; ALWAYS have a full glass (or bottle if you must) at your side. And there's a thread here on inhalation techniques, which might help as well.

Good luck! Don't go above 36mg, though; use better technique, or get a better head.

 

[AmandaD]

Hmm. Sounds crappy. Am I the only one growing tired of the scarcity-worshipping control freaks?

What? I have no idea what you just said.....

However, scarcity was not what I was talking about - rather taxation and expense. Nic will always be available. But it might not be affordable the way it is now.

 

[twgbonehead]

Hmm. Sounds crappy. Am I the only one growing tired of the scarcity-worshipping control freaks?

Yes, I think you are. That was a bit disrespectful IMHO, particularly as she was responding to you as the OP of this thread.

 

[cotinine]

To try straight up 48mg/ml, then if that doesnt do it then straight 50mg and then 60mg.

 

[cotinine]

Yes, I think you are. That was a bit disrespectful IMHO, particularly as she was responding to you as the OP of this thread.

Wasn't referring to the poster but to legislatures that want to ban ecigs, I thought that Amanda would understand the comment was certainly not directed at her. I apologize, poorly written post.

 

[cotinine]

What? I have no idea what you just said.....

However, scarcity was not what I was talking about - rather taxation and expense. Nic will always be available. But it might not be affordable the way it is now.

I meant those that try to regulate nicotine. Not you personally. Sorry if that was misunderstood.

 

[twgbonehead]

What? I have no idea what you just said.....

However, scarcity was not what I was talking about - rather taxation and expense. Nic will always be available. But it might not be affordable the way it is now.

Wasn't referring to the poster but to legislatures that want to ban ecigs, I think the poster understood the comment is not directed at her.

Not sure she did. I certainly didn't.

To try straight up 48mg/ml, then if that doesnt do it then straight 50mg and then 60mg.

I disagree with your approach. If 34mg isn't doing it for you, you should look at your equipment and your inhalation technique. You can make a car go faster by pressing down harder on the gas pedal, but sometimes you need to shift into second gear instead. I really don't think the issues you're having are because the nic level in your juice is too low. It is JMHO and I am just trying to help.

 

[ruet]

I smoked for 27 years and dipped Copenhagen and other fine-cut snuff for 25. I started vaping with 36-40mg juice and wouldn't buy anything but for a long while. Nothing less would satisfy. Now I range from 24-36mg depending on what is available in my ADV. I don't have any problems with my nic intake and don't plan on decreasing my levels any time soon.

 

[cotinine]

Not sure she did. I certainly didn't.



I disagree with your approach. If 34mg isn't doing it for you, you should look at your equipment and your inhalation technique. You can make a car go faster by pressing down harder on the gas pedal, but sometimes you need to shift into second gear instead. I really don't think the issues you're having are because the nic level in your juice is too low. It is JMHO and I am just trying to help.

AmandaD, the comment was certainly NOT directed at you. I will try to be clearer next time I say something that could be taken the wrong way. I'm sorry if I insulted you in any way. Thanks for your imput, btw.

twgbonehead, definitely no ill-will here, I appreciate you sticking up for Amanda even though the my post was most likely misunderstood.

 

[AmandaD]

I wasn't entirely sure...but I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. And, thanks, twgbonehead for defending my honor

I stand by what we've both been saying, though. If you never smoked, you would be wise to consider other options before going up to a nic level that's higher than most of the long-term former smokers on this forum. As you've obviously found out, nic is horribly addicting; and while not nearly as harmful as all the crap in analogs, it's a habit to be aware of .... I was a pack a day smoker for 40 years, and I don't like the fact that I *need* anything to get through my day LOL However, I do - and after 40 years vaping my nic is much less harmful than smoking.

 

[twgbonehead]

Cotinine,

It's cool by me.

I do hope you will try to work on the equipment first; it just seems to me that either there's something wrong with your setup, or that your expectations of vaping aren't realistic.

It really isn't the same as smoking. It's a compromise. It's much better in some ways (better flavors, better for your health) and much worse in others (needs more tweaking, more knowledge, more fussing, and often, more up-front cash to get it to work).

Go for it, but I do hope you look at other options before just upping the nic.

Peace!

 

[cotinine]

I wasn't entirely sure...but I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. And, thanks, twgbonehead for defending my honor

I stand by what we've both been saying, though. If you never smoked, you would be wise to consider other options before going up to a nic level that's higher than most of the long-term former smokers on this forum. As you've obviously found out, nic is horribly addicting; and while not nearly as harmful as all the crap in analogs, it's a habit to be aware of .... I was a pack a day smoker for 40 years, and I don't like the fact that I *need* anything to get through my day LOL However, I do - and after 40 years vaping my nic is much less harmful than smoking.

twgbonehead did the right thing by calling me out, I'm glad you know for sure I did not have any intention to insult you, that would be entirely rude of me to insult you in any way, especially since you are being kind enough to help me, a stranger you don't know.

Thanks for giving me a chance to explain the misunderstanding. I'll do my best to remember this next time I attempt to stick my foot in my mouth.

 

[jonny five]

the amount of nicotine you actually absorb varies depending on a bunch of factors, as we all know, but as far as the safety of high nicotine levels go, your tolerance will go as high as you are willing to take it. If you keep pushing it im sure you could get up to 200 mg/ml, or even [MODERATED] with enough time and not die or get sick (of course this is not advised, cuz thats just insane). ive heard of people having [MODERATED] of course, raising your tolerance too quickly will kill you.

 

[HeadInClouds]

I smoked only a half-pack of ultra-lights per day, but I truly needed to vape 24-36mg to feel comfortable. I used low-resistance cartomizers and occasional clearos, about 3-4ml of juice daily. I can sure see how a heavier smoker would want more than 36mg.

Every few months I've found I want a little less nic. I'm around 15mg now, not consciously trying to reduce it, it's just what keeps me comfortable and happy.

 

[mgmrick]

Also try drinking lots of water. Your setup can control the hit you get or don't get

 

[cotinine]

nite thanks 4 valuable imputs

 

[dannyv45]

I started at 24mg and when I felt the urge I went to 36mg. Now down to 14 after a year.

 

[cotinine]

Going to try:
50mg/ml
60mg/ml
75mg/ml
100mg/ml