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AzPlumber

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The way I see it, your using a heavier wire (lower resistance) and have say 7 wraps v 4-5 wraps on an open coil. An open coil might heat up faster but I get a much better vape from a tight micro coil. I have tried it both ways!!!

I won't argue that open vs compressed changes the vape. I just don't see how compressed increases surface area. What compressed does is increase the radiant heat between coils.
 

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First KAYFUN is a Generic term for several different versions of the Kayfun line of atomizers. Did you ever state which one? Maybe I missed that.

Second What are you using, comparing to that you feel is a good system? You may be attempting to compare apples to Fillet Minion.
If you cannot cook, stick to the apples.

Third, does not matter how long you have been tinkering with the Kayfun. If you don't understand what it does, how it does it and what is required to make it work properly, it will never be right.

If you are coming from Clearomizers a Kayfun is generally a good step up.
If you always use drippers a Kayfun may seem like a step back.


that could be my problem. i started on an evod/protank mini 3. went to a kayfun, then i bought a dripper. i hate how tight the airflow is and im looking for a tank with wide open lung filling airflow. trying to use the kayfun s tedious as i dont fill my lungs because well airflow and it causes me to suck on the damn thing for a good 20 seconds before im even satisfied. its just too much work.
 

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If anyone that hates their Kayfun wants to PIF, I promise to give it a good workout!

On my limited budget, it is hard to keep in juice.

get into DIY. you can make juice for pennies on the dollar. i believe a 15 ml bottle of juice cost me 1.50 to make? nicotine is 20$ for a 120ml 100mg/ml bottle and pg/vg is $10 for 500 mls
 

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I personally love my kayfuns. I have an Ehpro and an HCigar .. paid about $35 each IIRC. I love the draw, personally and how friggen easy they are to build. I do about 1.2 ohm coild .. 28g microcoils. no prob - easy peasy.

I also have a Fogger. When I can get it working correctly the vape is awesome. Building it is a huge PITA for me though.
 

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The one thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned yet, you said you keep your coil up off the deck. How far. The distance between the air hole & the coil will dramatically change the vape. Too high & it's going to be a very harsh vape. Low gives you more flavor, you just have to be careful how low you go. Too low can cause leaking issues.

Aside from that, wicking will make a big difference as well which has been stated a number of times already. That's the trickiest part to adapt to.
 

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AndriaD, did you watch the video? The wicking in that video is different than I've done it before. You'll think it's wayyyy too much cotton BUT it works great. You have to do it just like the video though. It took me a few times but once I got it. WOW!

Nah, didn't watch it... I have a serious problem watching videos with this antiquated XP Pro computer, and I use rayon in my kayfuns. The only thing I still use cotton for is my RSBT, it leaks like a sieve when you use rayon. But with rayon you always use a lot more than would be the case with cotton; rayon doesn't expand when it's saturated, it compresses -- hence the sieve effect in the RSBT. I guess if I ran the rayon down into the well of the RSBT as I've done with the cotton it might help it, but I got such a bad taste using rayon in that tank, I gave up on it and went back to organic cotton.

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Nah, didn't watch it... I have a serious problem watching videos with this antiquated XP Pro computer, and I use rayon in my kayfuns. The only thing I still use cotton for is my RSBT, it leaks like a sieve when you use rayon. But with rayon you always use a lot more than would be the case with cotton; rayon doesn't expand when it's saturated, it compresses -- hence the sieve effect in the RSBT. I guess if I ran the rayon down into the well of the RSBT as I've done with the cotton it might help it, but I got such a bad taste using rayon in that tank, I gave up on it and went back to organic cotton.

Andria

I hear ya... yeah, I guess that way wouldn't work with rayon.
 

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I wrapped a 1ohm spaced coil on mine with 30ga kanthal with a cotton wick running at 12 watts. It dumps out tons of warm smooth vapor, but yea the flavor is a little muted. I use unflavored e-liquid so it's not that big of a deal, but I do notice it.

I've tried various coils and wicks and this is as good as I have made it perform. I do wish the airflow was a little looser. Mine is a Kayfun Nano clone. I thought about drilling out the airhole, but I'm not sure if it would help since the center section where the air comes from can't be widened any.

The flavor is a little muted on unflavored e-liquid. I got a little chuckle out of that. lol sorry.
 

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the only thing i like about the kayfun is that it seems to be one the the first RBA that uses a bottom coil set up. thats it i hate everything else about it.

I really think yours is a case like my own crappy one; just not well-made. I think if you got one of these 2mm airflow Tobecos you'd see a VAST difference. I don't blame you a bit for not wanting to spend a 3-digit sum for an authentic; I'm not rich enough for that either. But these particular Tobecos are truly excellent; great airflow (I keep mine more than half closed!), great flavor, and simple as pie to build for -- the best vape I've ever had, and yes I have a dripper, the caterpillar, and I really don't care for it at all, even with just a single coil in it. There's way too MUCH airflow; even with just one hole exposed, it's still like sucking air, and it's such a hot vape that I have to turn my mod down to 6.5w-7w to be able to tolerate it at all -- I run my Kayfuns sometimes at 10 or 10.5w!

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yes and i stand by my 1 vote. i just feel bad for those 3,768,323 people using a .... atomizer. i wish i saw what you guys saw and my life and wallet would be a lot better off.

I hated my Kayfun mini & it was an authentic so I'm there with you. it was a pita for me as I would get a percentage of the tank that vaped great & then the rest I had trouble with. I seem to recall the first 1/3 was problematic & the rest was ok.

I use a REO now & don't have to mess with the wicking issues I had with that tank.
 

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ok. first, You're doing it WRONG! Why the hell would you use 30gauge? Second, don't used spaced coils they suck...compress your coil into a micro coil for the best vapor production! More surface area of your coil will give you much better vapor.

If you use unflavoured juice, how would you know if the flavour production is good or not? jesus. :facepalm:

The airflow is a bit of an issue for those of us who like to lung hit, but if you open your lips a little while inhaling you'll find much better results. If you mouth to lung, then the airflow is fine.

Do you think this is my first time building one of these? I've been doing this a LONG time, and I've used rebuildables almost the entire time. Microcoils are not automatically the best in every situation. Don't get me wrong they are great. I use 30ga because I have tested about 2 dozen different coils in this thing and this gives me the best output for the way I vape, like I said. I can tell that flavor production isn't the best because even unflavored has a taste, which you would know if you've ever tried it once, so maybe don't drop opinions on stuff you are clueless about. I DO mouth to lung hit, and I say the airflow is tight, even with the screw backed completely out.

You will notice I said mine was a clone. I've come to accept mine is probably one of the less great ones. In the future, perhaps try not painting your way as the absolute gospel of vaping. There are people who've been around the block quite a bit more than you.

I've had a LOT of issues with my nano clone too; I think a lot of the problems with it are just *because* it's so much smaller than a regular kayfun. The only way I've found to be able to use it and not scorch the wick is by using rayon. A rayon wick in a regular kayfun can last a week or more, but with the nano, even using rayon, it's only going to last 3-5 days before you start getting the burnt taste. But I think the spaced coil is by far the best way to do it for a nano, just because it prevents concentrating the heat so much.

And as I pointed out to the poster saying you're doing it "wrong," there's really no wrong, it's just what a user prefers, though a spaced coil does work better in a nano than a compressed one does -- at least in my experience -- but I do have to wonder, as he did, how you can tell the flavor is "muted" if you're vaping unflavored? There's no particular flavor there, so how is it "muted"?
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Thanks Andria. I kind of assume it might be because it is a clone. I thought about looking into one of the models with 2 airholes instead of just one(or just getting an authentic), but right now my funds are all tied up. As far as the flavor, even "unflavored" has a taste. It's kind of a peppery taste. After 2 years of vaping unflavored, a person can tell when it's not quite right. I will be getting some rayon soon to try that, so perhaps that will yield better results for me also.

The flavor is a little muted on unflavored e-liquid. I got a little chuckle out of that. lol sorry.
LOL I do realize how funny it sounds. Unflavored means no flavor additives, but the nicotine base does have its own flavor.
 
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