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I just posted on vapor forum com to let everyone there know if anyone is on other forums lets get everyone on this.
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Hope you figured it out Vocalek... I can still post comments scrolling down to the end of the comments series. Gonna have to hit the hay soon though, articles like this bum me out (but seeing the response here makes me happy!)
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Clear cookies and cashe, try a differnt browser like IE. Pray. 100% UE
its kinda better for CNN to say it has little to no nicotine, then the FDA can't treat them as nicotine delivery devices.. jesus
I wouldnt even start that way they are saying they have antifreeze in them they will go for a ban. They want to ban them that was how this all got started do not think for a minute they will rest till they get their way. That is why they are going at it at the state level.
HAHA crappy thing is that a lot of reputable people out there are actually takin the time to do "REAL" studies, so I doubt there will really be a ban :/
I remember when alot of people said the same thing about clove cigarettes when we all smoked them. Now we cant get them anymore. So do not doubt for a moment they will do it. They didnt get what they wanted last month and looked like fools so they will be back and this article just proves this.
I dont know, I hope they dont. At least there will be a big enough movement in our favor once we are done with it
I watched as the feds came into Austin and closed down the gun show that had been going on for years. This country is different than the one we knew 20 years ago the government really doesnt need alot of proof just a few lies they can throw around and they can do what they want. They created the whole H1N1 scare then when people didnt take the antivirus due to mercury they tried to get people to believe that it was good for kids. They just keep it up. I cant remember for sure what leader said it but I believe it was "It is easier to make the masses believe a huge lie than a small one". I might be wrong but I think it was Hitler.
God sometimes I hate America. I really will be moving to Canada in 2 years when I get my Biology degree!!
I am not sure if you have been keeping up with the news but some of the latest bills that have been put up are if you are heard saying anything bad about the government you can been put in jail for up to 10 years. So now we will have no free speech this is to protect us from the terrorist i guess.
While CNN should have done more thorough research and as a result provided a more balanced story, the blame shouldn't really be focused on them. They are just reporting on the preliminary results of a very flawed study, and the results of the FDA's limited, biased, and therefore also flawed tests.
The study tested people who have never used ecigs, gave them substandard hardware in an unknown state of readiness, and measured their nicotine levels after 10 puffs of 16mg. Everybody here knows there's a learning curve to using an ecig. We all know that there is crappy hardware out there. We all know that even with good hardware, you need to have it setup correctly (proper wicking material well-filled with liquid in good contact with the bridge). With all those variables, and with test subjects who are probably there just to get paid and can't wait to get out of there so they can just light up their cigarettes, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!? You have to WANT to quit smoking and have to WANT to try ecigs while putting forth the effort to give them a real shot at working for you. Without any of those things, the results aren't surprising at all.
P.S. I would just love to see some video of the test subjects attempts at vaping. Also, would love to inspect the hardware that they were given. With those two things, I'll bet it wouldn't be surprising at all that they didn't get any nicotine. Maybe the study should have hired some vaping consultants to source the hardware and set it up to be functional - that is, if they actually wanted honest and realistic results...
The study tested people who have never used ecigs, gave them substandard hardware in an unknown state of readiness, and measured their nicotine levels after 10 puffs of 16mg. Everybody here knows there's a learning curve to using an ecig. We all know that there is crappy hardware out there. We all know that even with good hardware, you need to have it setup correctly (proper wicking material well-filled with liquid in good contact with the bridge). With all those variables, and with test subjects who are probably there just to get paid and can't wait to get out of there so they can just light up their cigarettes, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!? You have to WANT to quit smoking and have to WANT to try ecigs while putting forth the effort to give them a real shot at working for you. Without any of those things, the results aren't surprising at all.
P.S. I would just love to see some video of the test subjects attempts at vaping. Also, would love to inspect the hardware that they were given. With those two things, I'll bet it wouldn't be surprising at all that they didn't get any nicotine. Maybe the study should have hired some vaping consultants to source the hardware and set it up to be functional - that is, if they actually wanted honest and realistic results...
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I cant wait till i get my income tax money. Im not a chemist so i need to stock pile some supplies!!!! I want my ecig and juices!!!
I will go to CNN link and post a nice comment
Tara
I will go to CNN link and post a nice comment
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