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[Baditude]

Aside from the 3.5ml tanks I own, what are some other good tanks that I should use with these?

I own a couple of custom glass blown tanks from High Desert Cigs. The designer made a tank of my design, a green tree frog which I love to use on my BB. Prices start at $30 and can run up to $50. Carto's used depend upon the length of the tube, which vary.

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I don't own any of the following new Cirrus tanks, but I really love how they look. Made in California, their website is still under construction. Allegedly another top cap easy fill tank and available with either pyrex or polycarbonate tube. I found them on Facebook and ECF. I'm keeping an eye out for information.

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[Baditude]

I don't own the below tank, either, but they come recommended by ECF members here. Called OCD tanks by IBTanked.com these are also pyrex. Slim by other pyrex tank designs, they will fit a Provari or BB nicely. Very inexpensive. Clear tubes alone are only $5. Custom pyrex paint-cured tubes are $10. Stainless steel caps available in 3 styles for $19. Check out their website, I'll likely try these out in the future.

Of course, everyone recommends Phiniac tanks. Incredible selections of clear and colored pyrex tubes. Also with textured glass, colored sand-blasted designs, and glass blown designs. The tube on my Bella tank is a Phiniac. Prices start around $45. Three sizes available. Cartos vary by tank sizes.

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OCD pyrex tank on Provari, and comparison of OCD vs Phiniac tanks

 

[VaporHead512]

You're awesome, everybody's awesome, I love this site.

 

[VaporHead512]

There wouldn't happen to be any rebuildable pyrex tanks would there, or is that not possible? I'd like to have 1 custom made pyrex tank and one rebuildable tank, pyrex if possible. Gotta look good on a black and silver PROVARI

Also like to add that for some reason I like the way smaller (3.5-4ml) tanks look for some reason. I haven't owned a 6ml-7ml tank but that's why. I would like to use single coil, 1-2 hole cartos with these size tanks but I only have seen XL cartos with those specs. Will XL cartos, like the ones you linked to on page 1, work with 3.5-4ml tanks?

 

[rondasherrill]

There wouldn't happen to be any rebuildable pyrex tanks would there, or is that not possible? I'd like to have 1 custom made pyrex tank and one rebuildable tank, pyrex if possible. Gotta look good on a black and silver PROVARI

Also like to add that for some reason I like the way smaller (3.5-4ml) tanks look for some reason. I haven't owned a 6ml-7ml tank but that's why. I would like to use single coil, 1-2 hole cartos with these size tanks but I only have seen XL cartos with those specs. Will XL cartos, like the ones you linked to on page 1, work with 3.5-4ml tanks?

I just picked up an S&S Mods Atom Bomb. It now comes with the polypropylene tank that won't crack. Once it comes in the mail my husband is going to check it with a caliper, order the proper size pyrex tube, and then cut and flame polish it for me. It has a 3mL tank, and it's technically a genesis.

 

[Baditude]

There wouldn't happen to be any rebuildable pyrex tanks would there, or is that not possible?

If I'm not mistaken, one of the high end rebuildable Genesis-type tanks uses a "ground quartz" tank that is clear; not sure what that is specifically but I assume that is a type of glass. Anyway, I didn't look at those long because the price was over $125 and there was a waiting list to boot.

Also like to add that for some reason I like the way smaller (3.5-4ml) tanks look for some reason. I haven't owned a 6ml-7ml tank but that's why. I would like to use single coil, 1-2 hole cartos with these size tanks but I only have seen XL cartos with those specs. Will XL cartos, like the ones you linked to on page 1, work with 3.5-4ml tanks?

Yes, they will work just fine. In a "shorty" tank, the top part of the cartomizer will end up sticking out of the endcaps around 1/4". May look a little odd, or to some people's eyes look kinda "radically cool", perhaps like an extended drip tip or those Cherry Vape cannon drip tips.

Heck, I've put those huge pyrex drip tips from Hot Vapes on an CE3 on my mods...that looks kinda radically cool. I don't have a pic of that setup, but try to picture these two together:

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[Baditude]

I just picked up an S&S Mods Atom Bomb. It now comes with the polypropylene tank that won't crack. Once it comes in the mail my husband is going to check it with a caliper, order the proper size pyrex tube, and then cut and flame polish it for me. It has a 3mL tank, and it's technically a genesis.

Those are a nice looking tank, and the best price by far for a genesis-type tank. Please do keep us informed about your experience with the tank itself, and also about finding a glass tube that fits for that.

 

[OCD]

Just for informational purposes, Quartz glass is much the same as Borosilicate (pyrex) glass but is very high purity silica where Pyrex has other components that make it strong. Quartz is harder and has a much higher melt temperature but also more susceptible to shock. Quartz is also about 4 to 5 times as expensive as comparable sized borosilicate.

The main places where Quartz would be better suited than borosilicate are extremely high temperature applications and optical applications neither of which apply to our needs.

 

[rondasherrill]

Those are a nice looking tank, and the best price by far for a genesis-type tank. Please do keep us informed about your experience with the tank itself, and also about finding a glass tube that fits for that.

That price tag really sold me on it, and the fact that it's a good size. Everyone on the Atom Bomb thread seems to love them, and alot of them say they've had to lower their nic with it. I'll be the judge of that. Shipping is certainly fast... I think I'll have it Monday. I'll certainly let you all know how it does... and if I find a way to make glass tubes for it I'll post that too.

Just for informational purposes, Quartz glass is much the same as Borosilicate (pyrex) glass but is very high purity silica where Pyrex has other components that make it strong. Quartz is harder and has a much higher melt temperature but also more susceptible to shock. Quartz is also about 4 to 5 times as expensive as comparable sized borosilicate.

The main places where Quartz would be better suited than borosilicate are extremely high temperature applications and optical applications neither of which apply to our needs.

Exactly... Using Quartz for this type of application is more of a "Look at me" thing... I checked into that before Pyrex, because I'd heard of another mod using it, but yea, in the end I realized I'm not gonna pay a premium for no gain.

 

[Baditude]

Just for informational purposes, Quartz glass is much the same as Borosilicate (pyrex) glass but is very high purity silica where Pyrex has other components that make it strong. Quartz is harder and has a much higher melt temperature but also more susceptible to shock. Quartz is also about 4 to 5 times as expensive as comparable sized borosilicate.

The main places where Quartz would be better suited than borosilicate are extremely high temperature applications and optical applications neither of which apply to our needs.

Thanks for the information. That is very good to know, and you certainly seem well versed on the materials. You wouldn't happen to be the supplier of the OCD glass tanks from IBTanked, are you? Great tanks by the way, I recommend them frequently here on the forums, even though I don't yet have one.

I love this video the manufacturer of the Atom Bomb made. Around the 1:30 mark it looks like he just took a humongous hit from a ...., starts coughing and states, "You want a throat hit, well this thing will hit your throat, your lungs, your spleen and just about everything else internal." Love it.

 

[Baditude]

That price tag really sold me on it, and the fact that it's a good size. Everyone on the Atom Bomb thread seems to love them, and alot of them say they've had to lower their nic with it. I'll be the judge of that. Shipping is certainly fast... I think I'll have it Monday. I'll certainly let you all know how it does... and if I find a way to make glass tubes for it I'll post that too.

I wonder if I should order one now? If they become so popular like the other rebuildables, they'll sell out quick and the supplier may have issues with supply and demand just like many of the others.

The price of the other rebuildable atty tanks is what kept me from getting one. This one is certainly affordable for me. I was never a dripper, and not a tinker type person either, so worried about having to make my own wicks.

 

[Slurp812]

AW IMR batteries are not what is considered "unprotected". They are safe chemistry, and therefore don't need protection.

Kinda like me after my snip snip operation!

 

[OCD]

Baditude, thanks. Yes I am one in the same OCD. I just wanted to toss that information out so folks understand more expensive material doesnt mean better and in this case I believe it is actually worse as it wont take the shock that boro will. IMHO If you want to take your tank to 2000F then quartz is the way to go otherwise its just hype.

Also if you see it marked way up because its "quartz" its kind of sad because even though it is 4 or 5 times as expensive the material cost is not the driving factor in price when you are looking at $1 ft compared to $5 ft with 6 to 8 pcs per ft. The labor is where the cost is and depending on how glass is prepared that can be from a few seconds of flame smoothing (must be annealed after) to a few minutes of grinding for each cut. Quartz and Boro are not so different in this regard. The care and preparation of the finished cut is what you pay for on a clear tube. Decorated tubes are another story where time and cost can vary greatly depending on the artist and mediums used.

 

[VaporHead512]

Went ahead and talked my mom into getting a Provari. She wanted the pink one but I had to let it be known that if she changed her mind about vaping, that she'd have an expensive pink Provari just sitting at her house there because I'm not using a pink one.


She ordered the Blue Satin, Blue LED.

 

[VaporHead512]

I really want to get into rebuilding, especially if it saves money. But I think it's better if I just find a really good tank I like that I can just replace the cartomizers. I'm liking these cartomizers with my Provari and if I can find a good place to buy bulk cartomizers with a discount I'll be set for a while. At least until around the time I break even and get the hang of things and ask all my questions.

I usually vape between 4.7v - 5.3v, depending on the juice. I'm liking 60/40 pg/vg , I might try some 50/50. Might even get a DIY setup and see if I have a knack for making my own juice.

All I need right now is a top quality tank, discounted in bulk cartomizer deal, and a 1B juice to go along with my Primo.

 

[Buttlord]

I want one

 

[recidivus]

While I don't have a Provari yet: I'm using a Boge F16 carto-tank (since my vivi has decided it needs to be tightened more and more each day and I need this LT to last another couple weeks), while it's no phiniac it's still pretty solid and hasn't leaked in the weeks since I've had it. I think I'll pick up some glass tubing and cut my own eventually.

And I know this is off topic: Buttlord, every time I see you made a new post I giggle a little.

 

[VaporHead512]

Gonna pick up a ZMax from Round Rock (allaboutvapor) tomorrow. Need a backup. I would be SOL if something happened to my Provari right now, and would surely have to go buy cigs. NOOOOOOOO.

I love that there is a B&M near me. Might not even go to sleep but instead wait on their doorstep like a stalker. Looks like my Break Even date will have to be pushed back a little while, but that's ok because well I don't care. I spent thousands and thousands on cigarettes but got no fun out of it. At least this is FUN!

 

[VaporHead512]

Also sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between an atomizer tank and a cartomizer tank and which one would work best on my provari? Like I said earlier I like to vape between 4.7v - 5.3v, so which would be best?

 

[recidivus]

Do you mean a rebuildable atomizer? I don't have exp. with them yet but you rebuild the atomizer coil yourself using stainless steel, silica wick, cotton wick, etc. Carto tank is just a tank that has a flanged cartomizer running through the centre. The cartomizer has holes punched in to keep fill/coil wet, drawing in more liquid from the tank.

Both will work on a provari! The voltage you are using doesn't mean much without knowing what resistance your 'mizer is. I'll assume your using standard/high resistance, so you just have to build the atomizer or buy cartos that won't burn out at that voltage..