FUTURE IDEA: Variable Voltage X2?
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Hi There -- I've just found this thread having posted a question about potential SI VVs. So you're not alone, I for one am interested, particularly in one another poster here has suggested. Not being an engineer, but it sounded possible to limit the high end to 4 which would allow a little boost up and down and for me that's what I'm looking for. Just to dial in a better flavor for the fruits and coffees. So not alone, and who knows as market conditions change SI might find it has enough demand.
Personally being new to vaping, I too have had my head swimming and exploring find I like the KISS model of SI for I what I've found I don't want is to make this a "hobby." I just want a stable, simple-enough, solution that works well for me. A moderate VV that maximizes the flavors I like and is user-simple enough to work in the SI product line would interest me.
Thanks all for all this great knowledge!!!
Personally being new to vaping, I too have had my head swimming and exploring find I like the KISS model of SI for I what I've found I don't want is to make this a "hobby." I just want a stable, simple-enough, solution that works well for me. A moderate VV that maximizes the flavors I like and is user-simple enough to work in the SI product line would interest me.
Thanks all for all this great knowledge!!!
A change in the resistance of your carto or clearomizer will provide same results as changing voltage. Ohms law. Volts=current (Amps) x resistance (ohms). Power=watts~volts x amps. When you increase voltage but nothing else you are increasing power. Same thing can be achieved on a fixed voltage device by decreasing ohms (ex. low resistance carto) or increasing amps (ex. Dual coil carto). Something to consider.
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Yes it can, but it's SO much easier to just twist a knob and dial your vape in.
So I'm probably going to get yelled at for this and if so I'm sorry ahead of time but SI uses KR808 threads the only VV device I have found that uses the same threads is Madvapes VV Gripper. If you wish to use SI products on VV Might I recommend that. I switched completely over to 510 Connections because 99% of Mods use 510 Connection. So personally I don't have use for my SI products because I wanted to bump more voltage but couldn't with the SI product.
I will state I still love SI and love everything about it but not having VV device I had to go elsewhere to get this. and because I had to go elsewhere I had to switch to 510 because everywhere else used 510.
Link to VV 808
Variable Volt 808 Gripper
Variable Volt 808 Gripper, Silver
Voltage doesn't raise with a lower resistance, only current does. if you have a 3.7 volt battery with a 2.6 ohm load (i think thats what volt cartos are) thats about 1.4 amps of current. the lowest resistance cartos ive seen for 808 is 2 ohms, which only brings it up to about 1.9-2 amps. technically that would be equivalent to using a 5v battery with a 2.6 ohm carto.
The reason people go with VV is simple
3.7 V 2.6 ohm coil your rocking 5.6 Watts 1.4 Amps
Take that same 2.6 Ohm coil boost the voltage to 5Volts
Now your getting 9.5 Watts and 1.9 amps of current
Personally 5-7 watts to me is weak
I perfer 8-10 watts of power I find I can taste the flavors better
Just as a side note your 2.0 Ohm coil
to get 9.5 Watts you need 4.4 Volts and 2.18 amps
because at your 3.7 volts 2 ohm coil your pushing 1.85 Amps and 6.8 watts to me thats just too weak
Thats why I went VV
One thing I must add VV Is not for everyone and if you enjoy 3.7 batteries Great I'm happy for you as Grimmgreen states and I agree "the best vape is the one that keeps you off cigarettes" I can't agree with this more. Me I'm a electrical engineer. and I live to tweak with Voltages and gadgets Having VV is great for me I understand its confusing to some and Thats fine. Just keep doing your thing and keep off cigarettes.
3.7 V 2.6 ohm coil your rocking 5.6 Watts 1.4 Amps
Take that same 2.6 Ohm coil boost the voltage to 5Volts
Now your getting 9.5 Watts and 1.9 amps of current
Personally 5-7 watts to me is weak
I perfer 8-10 watts of power I find I can taste the flavors better
Just as a side note your 2.0 Ohm coil
to get 9.5 Watts you need 4.4 Volts and 2.18 amps
because at your 3.7 volts 2 ohm coil your pushing 1.85 Amps and 6.8 watts to me thats just too weak
Thats why I went VV
One thing I must add VV Is not for everyone and if you enjoy 3.7 batteries Great I'm happy for you as Grimmgreen states and I agree "the best vape is the one that keeps you off cigarettes" I can't agree with this more. Me I'm a electrical engineer. and I live to tweak with Voltages and gadgets Having VV is great for me I understand its confusing to some and Thats fine. Just keep doing your thing and keep off cigarettes.
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Just a note.
It's one thing to talk about other things out there, but it's bad form to promote AND link to another vendor's site when posting in a vendor's forum.
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I understand your concern Harplayr. I'm just stating if someone wants VV on a 808 this is the only thing I have found. If SI caried VV device I would never have to post about another companies device. I could have taken this conversation off-line with CJgeek but what if the next person asked and the next person so on and so on. Its out there soley so if people Want VV they know that SI doesn't carry it here is another place they can go to get VV.
There is another VV deice that accepts 808, the Innokin Itaste VV V2. It accepts 808, 510 or a proprietary tank heads. The heads are held in place by a magnet so they can be easily interchanged. Finding it in stock can be a little tough, but they are still out there. Reviews have generally be quite good for it. It has a square body that looks more like a high quality fountain pen rather the the "box mod" look of the VV Gripper.
Lowering reistance and maintaining the same voltage will result in higher power. As current goes up from lowered resistance power follows right along, going up. The problem with using lower resistances is that there isn't that big an assortment of values available, although you may get lucky and find one you like, and the higher current draw shortens effective vaping time no matter what size battery is used.
Lowering reistance and maintaining the same voltage will result in higher power. As current goes up from lowered resistance power follows right along, going up. The problem with using lower resistances is that there isn't that big an assortment of values available, although you may get lucky and find one you like, and the higher current draw shortens effective vaping time no matter what size battery is used.
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I just got a Provari Mini, which is 510, but I'm using my SI carto's and CE3's w/adapters and they work great. An adapter only cost a few bucks.
Since some people have interest in VV
And want to learn more about Voltage amperage Ohms and Watts
I urge you to read some things about OHMS law and power law.
after you do that you can see those priciples work on this website.
Voltage current resistance and electric power general basic formulas calculations calculator general electrical pie chart electricity calculation - electrical power formula general ohms law audio physics electricity electronics formula wheel formulas
You must enter 2 things and it will fill out your 3rd and 4th item.
This is my favorite calculator I use it for both Vaping and Work because it works accurately
And want to learn more about Voltage amperage Ohms and Watts
I urge you to read some things about OHMS law and power law.
after you do that you can see those priciples work on this website.
Voltage current resistance and electric power general basic formulas calculations calculator general electrical pie chart electricity calculation - electrical power formula general ohms law audio physics electricity electronics formula wheel formulas
You must enter 2 things and it will fill out your 3rd and 4th item.
This is my favorite calculator I use it for both Vaping and Work because it works accurately
The Buzz Pro is VV but it doesn't Display Voltage or anything else Electrical wise. You just keep adjusting up or down until you find that Sweet Spot where your Juice taste .....in'! But no need for complicated dials or displays or whatever else.
The Buzz Pro just works.
Yes adapters are cheap but personally and I'm a superficial person I don't like the look of a adapter. NOR do I like adapters because of there function. Some adapters are not done 100% correctly and can mess with your battery post if your not careful. I have see adapters damage PV's if there is a issue. I perfer to stay away from Adapters (again my personal Preference), And use the gear made for the device
has anybody found an 808 to 510 carto adapter that actually works? last one i got didn't allow me to even take a drag.
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I also use 808 to 510 adaptors without any issues. That way I can use my 808 CE3's on any battery or mod I own.
I'd return or exchange it you probably just got a bad one. I've gotten them from a couple of different sources and the only problem I've had is losing them.
As far as not mating properly, I have had MUCH more issues with carto's and tanks that have a post that is either too long or short needing adjustent than I have had with adaptors. They are made to tighter specifications.
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