Genisis / Kronos Update

[jed]

@Jed,
if you are in a rush you should buy in a shop from stock and not participate in a project.
A project is totally different from a shop. At the beginning there is an idea. Than we start to design and to build. In that process a lot of things can go wrong or cause delays.

The first milled boxes were from a poor quality and we decided to make a pressure mould. That is an expensive task and we are very carefull with that. The second injections are now on the way to me and we test again. when all is clear we go into production with the boxes.

The other parts are here since a long time.

In a project the active member work in their free time to give passive member the chance to get an item which they otherwise would never get or never get for that price. When I read you comment I don't wonder why nobody will participate, including me, as an active member in a project again.

It is easy to argue from a TV chair with legs up.

Uwe

Fine and dandy there buddy...your right, ok, sounds good, appreciate the effort, onward forward....

What do you want us to feel sorrow for you and us feel guilty? Your estimates have been way off from the beginning so stop with the "things go wrong" stuff please. You took this project on along with several others of your own free will and in the process got yourself buried. You say you won't participate in an active project again as if it is our fault? Maybe you have bitten off more than you could chew is the problem. When people get legitimately concerned after over 1 year you push it back on them as if it is their fault? Maybe we should have been forewarned in the beginning when we signed onto this project that you would not keep us reasonably updated as to the progress and that it could take over a year to come to pass. Maybe our expectations were set to high? Oh well live and learn.

Good day to you to sir and have a good life.

jed

 

[wfarrar33]

on another note. I have a Genisis LV and i bent the threads that screw into the mod. Anyone know how to change the 510 threads out?

 

[johnpencraig]

Have a look at posts 720 and 410, where people have had a similar problem.
Post 563 has a link to the assembly guide which might be useful.

 

[wfarrar33]

thank you sir

Have a look at posts 720 and 410, where people have had a similar problem.
Post 563 has a link to the assembly guide which might be useful.

 

[wfarrar33]

yeah, that didnt work out well. I broke the threads completely off and i see no way of getting it out without drilling it out an i dont have the tools to accomplish this. id like to get this fixed before the Kronos comes my way if anyone can fix this i would pay shipping both ways and pay you whatever you think is fair. Ive never even got to use this thing yet

 

[Tai Pan]

@Jed,
exact your comment prevent people from doing new projects in the future.

@wfarrar33,
read post 724.

 

[jed]

Uwe,
For the most part members here have been appreciative of the opportunity to be a participant in this project from the beginning, including myself. Somehow you feel unjustly ridiculed for you efforts by a bunch of ingrates which interpretation might be further from the truth than you think. You call those not involved in the actual physical build as "passive" but in reality we are active with a whole hearted interest in seeing your success. I am sure on both sides if the cost was more taken into account from the beginning we would not be having this type of discussion. Estimates and expectations are what make the world go round and when there is failure to communicate these correctly there are sure to be consequences. Such is life Uwe, don't be surprised.

Keep up your efforts, keep us informed and we will "try" to keep patient.


jed

 

[sanjosse]

yeah, that didnt work out well. I broke the threads completely off and i see no way of getting it out without drilling it out an i dont have the tools to accomplish this. id like to get this fixed before the Kronos comes my way if anyone can fix this i would pay shipping both ways and pay you whatever you think is fair. Ive never even got to use this thing yet

Give lorderos33 a PM, to see if he can help. I think I remember seeing a post that he's very apt at fixing this great creations.

 

[unloaded]

I'm still excited to get my Kronos. I've moved on from the LV's but I'm thinking my Penelope will just about be a perfect fit in it's place. I don't mind the wait as long as it's done like we all expect and I know that is whats causing the delay. A lot of guys might have given up trying to keep this project going or settled for the first run and sent out mods that weren't what we expected. I think Uwe has handled this about as well as possible given the circumstances. I think the language barrier kind of hurt the stream of communications but we were all aware of that going into it. All co-ops are a semi cr@pshoot. You risk your money, delays, not getting what you wanted against the chance to get a unique, rare item at a reasonable price.

 

[Scubabatdan]

I'm still excited to get my Kronos. I've moved on from the LV's but I'm thinking my Penelope will just about be a perfect fit in it's place. I don't mind the wait as long as it's done like we all expect and I know that is whats causing the delay. A lot of guys might have given up trying to keep this project going or settled for the first run and sent out mods that weren't what we expected. I think Uwe has handled this about as well as possible given the circumstances. I think the language barrier kind of hurt the stream of communications but we were all aware of that going into it. All co-ops are a semi cr@pshoot. You risk your money, delays, not getting what you wanted against the chance to get a unique, rare item at a reasonable price.

Well I deferred my LV for when the kronos is done so they would ship together. Not complaining, I know first hand how delays can set you back. The GTUS took 6 months for the machine shop to finally get the parts right. So I completely understand, and when they are ready they will ship. I would rather wait and have it be everything we want the kronos to be versus, tai rushing to keep people happy and flaws that may have been discovered get over looked.
Sides I have alot of toys to make and play with to keep me busy
Dan

 

[johnpencraig]

This is a post by Tai Pan on e-rauchen-forum today:

I lay in the hospital right now and sign up in the next week with a status report. Uwe

 

[sanjosse]

This is a post by Tai Pan on e-rauchen-forum today:

I lay in the hospital right now and sign up in the next week with a status report. Uwe

WoW! I hope he's okay! Uwe get well soon

 

[VapRon]

Auch von mir eine gute besserung und baldige genesung.

 

[MXBNW]

Any News hope every thing is going ok.

Any update would be nice. We are going on 15 months.

 

[debb]

sure would like to know what's going on.......

 

[boban]

i open this thread once per month and there is still nothing going on...

 

[jed]

Elektronisches Rauchen Forum
Tai Pan
RE: Let's build together II - Water levels Post #16
Please post anything here! Overview is everything!

I'm back. After an operation associated with a very unpleasant diagnosis I needed time to myself to find myself again and get his head clear. Therefore, this status report is later than promised.

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Genisis LV is supplied complete

box Kronos The injection mold is finished and released. The first lethal injections are made ​​and are coated. I am now waiting for final approval coated boxes. This whole thing has taken a relatively long. A project is being developed as an idea first and then look to how many participate. There are two months away then ever. We were first set to milling. When the first model came they were too heavy, and of a very poor quality. So we decided to make a die-casting tool. Something like that is very expensive and we went with the utmost caution in this task. To March, were the drawings endfertig and started with the tool. Also, as we have repeatedly requested samples to make sure that everything is in order. Although there much, much time was lost to us that was dear. now is the tool in the quality finish and it can go on. The remaining material is a long time for me. Maybe the boxing history too ambitious and we have sold just normal on the market should take plastic housing. Then the Kronus would already checked off. But as the participant gets a kind and will never be available again. When finished pattern here I will post photos. As the long time RCA is no longer so in can now be changed. So if you want to go from RCA to 510 at the box schcike me an email. But as please with full name and not only with Nick. I thank all those who have waited patiently and gave me words of encouragement via e-mail. The mud, the other accused, I will bounce off me. These people will always be in my life. anything please post here! Overview is everything!

on the road again and getting closer....thanks for the update on progress Tai....keep well

 

[MXBNW]

Good news, Glad to hear that he Tai Pan is doing ok.

 

[VapRon]

from Vapron:
I just could not see that darn Google translation so here it is hehe.
I did not order the Kronos so do not have a dog in this one!



From German forum:

I am back. After having surgery I had to clear my head in order to deal with a very unpleasant post-diagnosis. That is the reason for the delay of this update.

Box Kronos
The injection mold is finished and released. The first moldings are finished and they are currently being coated. I am now waiting for the coated boxes for final release.

This whole project has taken a long time. A project starts out with an idea, and then one looks how many folks want to participate. This part takes already about two months. We focused at first on milling, but when we received the first samples, they were too heavy and of very poor quality.

We then decided to move forward with die-casting. This is quite expensive and we moved forward with great caution. The drawings were completed by March, and the production of the die-cast tools began. Also here we requested numerous samples to ensure that everything was in order. The quality of the tools was of greater importance to us than the lost time. Now, the quality tools are ready and we can continue.

I already have the remaining parts.

Maybe the creation of the boxes was to ambiguous and we should have just used common plastic boxes available on the market. Then the Kronos projects would have been done a long time ago.

But this way, the participant receives a unique item which will never be produced again.

As soon as I receive the completed samples, I will publish pictures.

Since the start of the project, the Cinch connection is no longer “in”.
Those who wish to change the Cinch connection to a 510 connection, please send me an e-mail. Please use your full name instead of your nick name.

I would like to thank all who are patiently waiting, as well as those who have given their support via e-mail. For those who have decided to get into mud-slinging, that’s fine with me. Such folks will always be around.

 

[johnpencraig]

That's a really clear translation Vapron - Thanks.