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GG with AFS vs. JuiceBox

Discussion in 'Juice Box Fans' started by thejager, Feb 9, 2010.

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  1. Ralph T

    Ralph T Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2009
    Albuquerque, NM
    I feel the same way. I was expecting to be able to just take the same kind of lengthy hit I did at 3.7. Then I figured it out. Now, even at 5 volts I find myself pulsing the power on and off.
     
  2. Stormynights

    Stormynights Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Bristow, Ok.
    I love BE112 at 6V.
     
  3. kemuri

    kemuri Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 26, 2009
    out of town
    How long does your BE112 last at that voltage? I managed to kill one I trial ordered in about 3 or 4 days vaping at 5 and 6v (two different boxes).

    Trying to get a little bit on-topicnow -- the JB is a 7.5 watt device, or thereabouts.
     
  4. Stormynights

    Stormynights Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Bristow, Ok.
    I use them about 2 to 3 weeks then they are sluggish. I clean them and vape the survivors. The answer is I don't know for sure but I am satisfied with how long they last me. Carlos has made a much better atty though.
     
  5. natura

    natura Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2009
    USA-Western NY
    ...And so in line with my thinking!

    BB lol Thinking of putting it up for sale for weeks yes..still not done it. And my love/hate use to be about size of hits ..then it was consistency of hits......now it's want another flavor..YES drip in the top works great..AND U GOT HOW MUCH for it??? (I look at my budget thinking hmmm dang JB)
     
  6. vapn

    vapn Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 10, 2009
    UK
    I don't have a juice box but I wanted to correct some errors in this thread. I just want to stop some rumors.

    I don't know where people get the idea it takes $20 to make a GG with the 7075 aluminum and brass prices what they are today. Markup is actually not that much. Machine labor rates are also pretty costly. And yes the GG is one ROCK SOLID device. (The exchange rate is the varialbe that drives the cost of the GG line up for those of us in the US anyway)

    I feel I must point out the explosion issue is one for any mod using unprotected batteries particularly in tandem. The wait time for any popular custom made device in such high demand is always going to be a factor. The GG is apparently in production in much larger quantities this time and hopefully out of stock items will not be a factor much longer.

    Some will like the way the AFS looks, some will not. I prefer function over form when it comes to my vaping. It has to work and that is the best part of the GG line. It works and works well.

    For everyone who doesn't like 6v vaping. That may be because you are not using HV atties. The resistance is just too low on standard atties for 6v vaping and you WILL get a burnt taste at 6v. But the GGTS works great at 3.7v, 6v, and 7.4v also....

    PS. I just bought a second hand AFS which will be my Third. That is how much I hate dripping after using the AFS.
     
  7. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    1. I'm about 3 weeks into my ggts. Been using a blue foamed 510 (non hv) atty with a 18650 battery. So far, this is my main, and favorite, vape. It's expensive, but as my depression baby parents like to say, 'You get what you pay for.' No design is perfect, but the ggts has been pretty rock solid so far. This combination has given me a 5v like vaping experience, and I'm dying to see if the new 18650 high drain battery will improve it further.

    2. The generation one afs has a pretty steep learning curve. I'm throwing in the towel with mine (selling it, actually) and waiting on the 2nd version.

    3. With one minor caveat, customer service on gg is stellar. The GG creator and his two distributors are always on the boards, and respond quickly to posts and PM's. The caveat is that they could be a little better about documentation and instructions about their products. Again, while the v1 AFS is 'not recommended for new users', it is complicated enough that a poorly lit, shaky video with poor sound and a 15 page forum thread to follow is woefully lacking. My GGTS is simple to the point of being intuitive.

    4. For the life of me, I don't see why Carlos hasn't registered so he and his delegates can communicate directly with his customers. This lack of a presence in the place which helped create the juice box phenomenon is bound to negatively affect customer service. Oddly enough, a couple of veteran GG folks talked me out of canceling my JB order. As opposed to Imeo, the GG creator who is always on the boards, Carlos is the 'juice box pope' who steps onto the balcony once or twice a year to waive at his adoring masses. :nun::nun::nun: I hope Carlos gets stuff organized so he can address this. I want Carlos to madly succeed, everyone could stand to hear another rags to riches story to inspire us.

    5. Hopefully, my JB order will get here shortly (ordered 1/16/10) so I can give my honest appraisal. I'm loving my GGTS, but my love is fickle; a better PV, if it exists, can quickly win it.
     
  8. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I received an email Sunday saying that my order status was changed from pending to shipping. Meaning it probably shipped Monday and should hopefully get here by Saturday, maybe even tomorrow.

    Anyone have anything to tell me, any advice or suggestions before it gets here?
     
  9. Ralph T

    Ralph T Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2009
    Albuquerque, NM
    1. Take a good wiff of that smell in the atty before you do anything else with it. See if you can identify that odor. I have smelled it somewhere before but just can't place it. I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me what that is.

    2. If you have the blue tenergy 18650 battery; The ones with no real button on the + side, you may have to tweak the + battery connector to make contact. Mine works fine with an ultrafire, but my tenergy's are pretty flat on the + end and it doesn't "make" with the + contact due to the blob of solder on that contact (which hits the insulation on the battery instead).

    3. It is probably just as effective for break in to take the side cover off and blow gently into the atty, (like vaping only in reverse), instead of actually pulling vapor into your mouth like normal. I have been doing this for awhile now, (but maybe only 5 or 10 minutes a day though), trying to avoid that funky flavor. Taking the cover off prevents the vapor from condensing on the inside of the JB. Watching this operation in a mirror will give you an idea of the awesome vapor this thing can produce.

    I still haven't given up. The way I figure it, either my senses will dull to that flavor, or it will go away. Hopefully the latter!

    Good luck Clyde, and cheers!
     
  10. Kuya Dave

    Kuya Dave Moved On

    Jan 5, 2010
    Tru Nor Cal
    ...
    I took and replied to a post
    and it threw it here...
    The advertising was due to a post I read before I posted that.
    hit quick reply & typed it up.
    so deleting it..
    Thanks for pointing that out Clyde.
    This is the 2nd time it has happened.
    That I know about
     
  11. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    1. I have bothered carlos and porphy about my order so much, I wouldn't be surprised if mine has the smell of bitter almonds. :rolleyes: But I'll take a good whiff of it, just for you.

    2. I don't have any tenergy 18650's. A couple of gtl 2800's, a uf 3000 mah, and a couple of aw high drains. My hope is that the high drains may help a bit with the flooding/burnt taste learning curve, which i suspect may be the atty needing to be seasoned or broken in.

    3. Will do as for the blowing, and will try that.

    KD: what are you talking about? Who said anything about advertising?
     
  12. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2009
    Pittsburgh, PA
     
  13. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

  14. Kuya Dave

    Kuya Dave Moved On

    Jan 5, 2010
    Tru Nor Cal
    Sorry guys about that. I edited it..
    Something musta happened with the forum when I did quick post.
    cause it was replying to someone elses post... diff thread... im stumped on this.
     
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