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EDIT: *note: At that time, the only ISPs were major corporations and universities - they provided the links to get across the country. There were no independent ISPs as a business in those days.
When I read someone else's post, unless their command of the English language is excellent, their punctuation precise, and use of the available emoticons prolific, it is often difficult to be sure what that person really "means." When we are talking face-to-face, I can see the twitch of the cheek, note the raised eyebrow, see the smirk, "feel" the mood. Not so with text. And there are so many abbreviations, acronyms, and misspelled words today (isn't English a required course in school any more?). Pardon me if I am offending anyone on this thread who uses only their cell phone and feels they must do it that way because typing on that super tiny keypad is just too hard (so they say it is to hard and use your when they mean you're (you are), etc.). I guess, if this is the "norm," how can we ever expect anyone to not become self-centered? And self-centered people become rude and condescending.
Take a walk with me on this trail. Leave your cell phone and watch in the car down the mountain. We will talk to each other. And you won't need your phone to call 911 because if you fall down, I will carry you back down the mountain. Lean on me, my friend, and let us explore our world together.
Wow! My wife and I were discussing this (one of many times the subject has come up) and, while your paragraph is not word-for-word what we said, it is so close that one might say we paraphrased each other. I was on the internet before there were any graphics* - text only - and the green screens looked rather like a cheap typewriter page (no variations in font, size, etc.). The only way to show emotion was to put your text in all caps (that was considered SHOUTING!). The subject under discussion became a problem even way back then (we called them FLAME WARS). Then Facebook showed up and it got worse rapidly. Why? People do not communicate face-to-face anymore. I know husbands and wives who text each other when they are only across the same room from each other. What the heck happened to talking? Children today do not seem to be able to even make a decision on their own without first asking (via texting) six friends for their opinions. When the power goes out, what is their greatest fear? That they cannot recharge their cell phones! Jeez, kid, walk next door and talk to your friend!
EDIT: *note: At that time, the only ISPs were major corporations and universities - they provided the links to get across the country. There were no independent ISPs as a business in those days.
When I read someone else's post, unless their command of the English language is excellent, their punctuation precise, and use of the available emoticons prolific, it is often difficult to be sure what that person really "means." When we are talking face-to-face, I can see the twitch of the cheek, note the raised eyebrow, see the smirk, "feel" the mood. Not so with text. And there are so many abbreviations, acronyms, and misspelled words today (isn't English a required course in school any more?). Pardon me if I am offending anyone on this thread who uses only their cell phone and feels they must do it that way because typing on that super tiny keypad is just too hard (so they say it is to hard and use your when they mean you're (you are), etc.). I guess, if this is the "norm," how can we ever expect anyone to not become self-centered? And self-centered people become rude and condescending.
Dr. Spock caused that! And parents soon found the government would arrest them for spanking their children, so discipline became a thing of the past, and now everyone, no matter how bad they are, gets a passing grade just for showing up, and sports require trophies even for the losers - and don't you dare ever call them losers because that's not politically correct. Whatever happened to the work ethic? You get what you work for, not what Dr. Spock says you deserve. Kind of like cutting down the entire forest to the size of the smallest tree... In other words, WE, THE PARENTS... those who have allowed their children to be brainwashed, and buy them all these electronic toys to shut them up, are ultimately responsible.
And that is likely the biggest reason for the increase in youth suicide rates. So sad...
Take a walk with me on this trail. Leave your cell phone and watch in the car down the mountain. We will talk to each other. And you won't need your phone to call 911 because if you fall down, I will carry you back down the mountain. Lean on me, my friend, and let us explore our world together.
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A very complicated topic today. My thoughts on the topic can be summed up with...... my hovercraft is full of eels.
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1/3/16
uh oh.
The magic word, "Eels"
This is forever embedded into my brain since watching, The Mighty Boosh.
Only they used a magic carpet.
oops. almost forgot.
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Interesting takes. I get virtually none of the advertising you're talking about... we have netflix. Every time we try to watch network tv, we lose interest halfway through the first run of commercials. I have to go see a movie once per quarter or I never know what's coming next.11/3 #3
Hmm... what a day to be away from the thread. Interestingly enough, my wife and I had a similar conversation while we were out today. We had stopped to get some lunch and were just beginning to eat when a couple of other families came in. Out of the 6 or 8 kids that came in with them, at least 5 of them were making whiny demands of the adults with them. My wife looked at our kids and then wondered what the world will be like with all of these children who start their requests for things already whining. That included our kids. I suggested that some of it stemmed from lack of parental discipline--but that also that, in many cases, the discipline is not exercised because of the additional demands on parents these days--including stagnant incomes, more demands at (and away from--though still by) work, and greater distractions by the relentless onslaught of information. We're already seeing some of the results of such from the older generation of Millennials who are in college today and have an unswerving belief that they should be accorded respect and prosperity just for being, regardless of whether or not they actually do anything.
Further, the amount of advertising bombardment we undergo today is far greater--and much more insidious--than what we used to go through. Advertisers have figured out how to weave subtle messages into their advertisements for products: they're not selling a widget, they're selling happiness, popularity, self-esteem, and love. Younger minds are warped by this process, suck it in, and believe that if they don't have the latest, greatest thing that their lives may as well be over. Popular music of yesteryear might have described going for a drive with a lover or friends or maybe about how fast their car is. Today, there are no songs about cars--but there are plenty of popular songs (some by teen stars) talking about picking up their friends in their Mercedes Benz or cruising the street with their entourage in their flashy Escalade. Years ago, there was an uproar over the use of "product placement" in films--Reese's scored a coup over Mars by getting Reese's Pieces in E.T., Audi is the car in the latest Bond adventure, etc.--but now? Hardly a peep. Along similar lines, the never-ending slew of pop-references in children's movies, franchise re-boots, and adaptations of classic societal icons creates a cultural disconnect with popular touchstones. King Arthur was a legend that brought hope to the peasants of England and Wales--but in "Once Upon a Time" he's a power-grabbing, treacherous liar--kids seeing this (and, yes, my kids watch these shows) without knowledge of the original story and the history are coming away from this with a completely different understanding than what earlier generations may have. All of which leads to a breakdown of understanding between generations.
I seem to have wandered off topic... but the question is not just about what we are seeing now, but also what will we see in the future?
As for disciplining children to prevent public whines... the very idea if disciplining children has been destroyed by the modern nanny government. Parents getting arrested because they let their kid play in a park across the street? Getting arrested because they smacked a child's hand when they were attempting to pocket a candy bar?
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Home. (yay) And mr kitty was waiting for me
...Till I acc stepped on his tail
Looks like a hot discussion on rudeness and impulses.
Lemme catch up ...I'm already late to the discussion...
Home. (yay) And mr kitty was waiting for me
...Till I acc stepped on his tail Looks like a hot discussion on rudeness and impulses.
Lemme catch up ...I'm already late to the discussion...
Sorry to say - IMO - it started way before the 'Millennials" came about (BTW: Are not in college today - they are those in their late 20's - early 30's), I really think that it actually started with the "Me" generation . . . Just Sayin' . . .
Business People & Advertisers . . . . I am not here to promote "Your" Product or Company . . . I AM NOT "YOUR" FRIEND - Nor Are "YOU" a Member of "My" Family . . . I am "Your" customer and "My" Name is "MR. UNCLE" or "SIR" - NOT "Uncle" . . . .
AND - Why "They" do not care . . . Since "history" only started with them and will only continue if they are involved in that history . . . Just Sayin' . . .
AH - The days of Unix systems and Bulletin Boards w/Alt Groups . . .
Oh it didn't go anywhere - it went from Writing Letters to Phone Calls to Answering Machines to Voice mails to Emails to Texting . . . Next it will be an electrode implanted in "Your" Head . . . Just Sayin' . . .
SHHH - Not having electricity is a BIG HUGE NO NO ! ! !
Let's just say . . .
YES - Whatever happen to "Work Ethics" . . . Please see "Management" (i.e. "Reaganomics") and the aggressive nature in which people were downsized and only hire part time employees (or even independent contractors) to avoid paying real money and providing benefits to workers . . .
Honestly, NO - While proper parental guidance is very important that is not the reason . . . When it comes to the suicide rate increase in youth today - there are much more serious factors, issues, and situations as the causes . . . Just Sayin' . . .
@jpf880 . . .
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For "Everyone" In NEED . . .
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Once again - For all of the 'Tree-Peeps" already gone to bed and those about to go . . .
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The idea that parents get jailed for spanking or simple discipline is a hoax. There's not enough CPS workers to investigate the truly horrendous abuse cases that they do know about. How could they investigate the trivial? The tiny percentage that does get wrapped up are usually involved with bitter custody battles or are not revealing the whole story which also can't be revealed by anyone else to protect the minor. The news can only get one side of the story. Abusers are very believable.
Current laws protect animals and afford them more rights than children get. Children are always considered property of their parents. Animals have a defined set of rights and can be removed. Caring shelters or another permanent home can be found. That's not true for children. The horrors of foster care and group homes can be very real. Why are there children on the streets when they aren't old enough to make that "choice"?
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Yup, those were the days... only in my case, it was before Unix... dumb terminal connected to Cyber mainframe (Cyber actually was a brand name, not a generality) and via 9600 baud telephone lines to local colleges...AH - The days of Unix systems and Bulletin Boards w/Alt Groups . . .
I beg to differ! I personally know a person in Oregon who slapped her kid on the .... in a grocery store (and not even hard enough to bruise) for screamingly demanding candy. Thanks to some butthead (who obviously didn't like her but knew her) who used her cell phone, Children's Services Division was waiting for her when she got home from the store and took the child away from her pending the court case. That is not a hoax. Her lawyer got the kid back, but it cost them a fortune and it did go to court. All for simple discipline?
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A lot to reply to--but not enough time left in the evening. School starts again tomorrow!
Good night, Treefam!
A lot to reply to--but not enough time left in the evening. School starts again tomorrow!
Good night, Treefam!
Nu unh... 99 of 'em. If it had been just one, well, everything would have been different, now wouldn't it?
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...catchy tune don't ya think...till ya read the lyrics
...catchy tune don't ya think...till ya read the lyrics
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lots of comments and thoughts up there
I'll add a bit - agree, disagree or don't care about them - don't matter to me
spare the rod, spoil the child
the whole thing about not spanking and other strict punishments is part of the problem - kids come to know nothing serious will happen and feel they can get away with it. I won't go into the CPS issues - I have personally seen some of the screw ups from things being reported and they get involved. There has been good done by them but they have also been the cause of some problems.
another big part of the problem is gubernant - lots of different kinds of aid programs (most started for the right reason) and too many people have come to expect them as a right that should continue for their entire life and refuse to work and do something to get off them (there are some that do put forth the effort and I applaud them).
nuff said by me even though I do have lots more thoughts about it
#1
lots of comments and thoughts up there
I'll add a bit - agree, disagree or don't care about them - don't matter to me
spare the rod, spoil the child
the whole thing about not spanking and other strict punishments is part of the problem - kids come to know nothing serious will happen and feel they can get away with it. I won't go into the CPS issues - I have personally seen some of the screw ups from things being reported and they get involved. There has been good done by them but they have also been the cause of some problems.
another big part of the problem is gubernant - lots of different kinds of aid programs (most started for the right reason) and too many people have come to expect them as a right that should continue for their entire life and refuse to work and do something to get off them (there are some that do put forth the effort and I applaud them).
nuff said by me even though I do have lots more thoughts about it
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Had to go out to do a couple things earlier - been raining most of the day so of course traffic was worse than usual.
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Had to go out to do a couple things earlier - been raining most of the day so of course traffic was worse than usual.
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