Going to try and be good.

[Aikhme]

Your point is well formulated. Enjoy your chosen device.

- Andy

Actually my chosen device is a ProVari! I also use an eVic which is pretty good but not as good as the ProVari other than it is a VW device.

I also use a sigelei V3 Telescopic which I think is every bit as good as the ProVari and I may like it better (not sure yet).

Point is, the ProVari is not the best device and I quantify it by saying that for some vapers it may be a Vamo. A Vamo is definitely better value, gives the same vape and is VW and you can get 7 of them for less than a ProVari.

Still love the ProVari though for its feel, finish and solid construction, but prefer VW devices and hate the fact that ProVari don't do VW.

 

[hottierockstar]

I have been upsetting those that do not like Provaries. I am going to try to not recommend or defend a Provari for a week.

This will be hard.

p.s. i think the plural of provari is Provarii (all i see above is ovaries LMAO!!!)

 

[eratikmind]

Actually my chosen device is a ProVari! I also use an eVic which is pretty good but not as good as the ProVari other than it is a VW device.

I also use a Sigelei V3 Telescopic which I think is every bit as good as the ProVari and I may like it better (not sure yet).

Point is, the ProVari is not the best device and I quantify it by saying that for some vapers it may be a Vamo. A Vamo is definitely better value, gives the same vape and is VW and you can get 7 of them for less than a ProVari.

Still love the ProVari though for its feel, finish and solid construction, but prefer VW devices and hate the fact that ProVari don't do VW.

Excellent. Thank you for replying. This is a clear example of how not to be misunderstood.

Moving forward, I agree . . . As such, I received a Sigelei Zmax V3 Tele Flat Top, yesterday. It's a great little rig. We both can have our cake and eat it too.

Now, if my 2nd mini shows up in a timely manner, I'll be quite the happy lad.

- Andy

 

[forg1vn]

NOPE! bad analogy..a provari will not kill you.
everyone has to START somewhere. i started on a 1994 ninja 250 and rode with the big boys, 8000+ miles in like 6 months(and i sold it for $100 more than i paid for it LOL)...when i first got my "real sportbike" i told a few ppl that, had i started on it...i would NOT be riding at all....i had to relearn.
I still recommend the 250 (used) to ppl that are looking to get into riding...it teaches you things..i would rather have someone outgrow and repurchase than lose them altogether.

to those of you that are going to "monitor" or suspend your passion and opinion...WHY?!
I really don't see why you are letting ppl you have nothing invested in dictate your activities....especially since i am pretty sure no one is going to spend *their* money and then blame any dissatisfaction on you...and if they do...they're gonna sue you for damages? from a msg board? good luck with that one LOL

i don't own a ProThingy (which makes it even more weird that post in a lot of prov threads LOL) but............................
Provari, Provari, Provari, Provari, Provari!

i am personally grateful to the Twist, the vivi nova, and the 250....all have served their purpose in teaching me what i needed to know. I have a mini ego, twist, and a ego mega...all are different vaping experiences despite being an "ego".

I never finished that anology but being a rider too I agree with you that a 250 is a darn good place to start as is any ego battery

 

[chadsmo]

, but prefer VW devices and hate the fact that ProVari don't do VW.

VV is VW if you take 20 seconds and do a bit of math. Volts = the square root of Watts multiplied by ohms.

 

[The Ocelot]

VV is VW if you take 20 seconds and do a bit of math. Volts = the square root of Watts multiplied by ohms.

You're kidding, right? Am I the only one around here who doesn't care if a device is VV or VW? I pick a general setting ( ≈ 8w or set the voltage at resistance +2) and dial up or down until I find the sweet spot. I don't consider adding "2" to really be math and I have a hard time believing that people who prefer VW have no idea of the resistance they are using.

 

[chadsmo]

I'm just saying that when people in general complain about VW on any device that all they're complaining about is a bit of math. That's all.

As for me, VV works just fine. I adjust to taste and I'm good to go.

 

[MMarie]

I don't really understand the whole fixation with "I'm vaping at 'x' watts" thing, anyway, so VW or VV makes no difference to me as long as there's a v in there (and I like my mech, too, as long as the coil is right for it).

For the most part, on my variable devices, I press the button and if I want it cooler or warmer adjust it up or down. Sometimes I check the ohm's law calculator to see what the power is out of curiosity (especially on a new delivery device), but most of the time I adjust by taste. At this time in my vaping experience, my delivery devices are fairly narrowed down and not a lot of adjusting needs to be done.

 

[eratikmind]

I'm just saying that when people in general complain about VW on any device that all they're complaining about is a bit of math. That's all.

As for me, VV works just fine. I adjust to taste and I'm good to go.

It does not get any simpler than that. If my taste buds aren't working, it doesn't matter how or what my rig is set up.

- Andy

 

[Aikhme]

VV is VW if you take 20 seconds and do a bit of math. Volts = the square root of Watts multiplied by ohms.

Bit of an effort when changing a lot of Tank systems in the evening which is what I do.

It doesn't take much for Provape to release a new version with VW. If the Chinese are able to do it then they should keep up.

I certainly will never buy another ProVari until that happens! I find VW easier when using different resistance tanks.

 

[Baditude]

Bit of an effort when changing a lot of Tank systems in the evening which is what I do.

It doesn't take much for Provape to release a new version with VW. If the Chinese are able to do it then they should keep up.

I certainly will never buy another ProVari until that happens! I find VW easier when using different resistance tanks.

I can understand using different resistance delivery devices if you are using both single voltage (fixed) and V-V battery mods. However, standard resistance would work with both. Do you really find it necessary to have a wide range of different ohm delivery devices?

90% of my vaping is on my Provari's, so when I reorder delivery devices I get 2.5 - 3.0 ohm. I have a couple of single voltage mechanicals as backups, and I keep a small supply of 2.0 ohm carts just for them, but have found the higher resistance delivery devices will work on them in a pinch, too.

 

[forg1vn]

Bit of an effort when changing a lot of Tank systems in the evening which is what I do.

It doesn't take much for Provape to release a new version with VW. If the Chinese are able to do it then they should keep up.

I certainly will never buy another ProVari until that happens! I find VW easier when using different resistance tanks.

VW isn't a cure all, not all juices taste the same or good at the same wattage or even different vapor delivery devices for that matter. So therefore adjust according to taste and VV and VW are essentially the same.

 

[Aikhme]

I can understand using different resistance delivery devices if you are using both single voltage (fixed) and V-V battery mods. However, standard resistance would work with both. Do you really find it necessary to have a wide range of different ohm delivery devices?

90% of my vaping is on my Provari's, so when I reorder delivery devices I get 2.5 - 3.0 ohm. I have a couple of single voltage mechanicals as backups, and I keep a small supply of 2.0 ohm carts just for them, but have found the higher resistance delivery devices will work on them in a pinch, too.

I do swap and change resistance levels. Is it necessary? Probably not.

It's just the way it has panned out for me so far. My vaping journey only began in January and it has got me off the analogs. I consider vaping a bit of a hobby as well and find myself always experimenting with different things.

I started vaping with single voltage EGo C batteries and my first mod was an eVic, so I started straight away using VW to guage my power settings and taste. After, I bought a ProVari VV. Recently I just purchased a Sigelei V3 Telescopic which I think is amazing. VW is how I started and it is what I prefer. Evic is a great mod for beginners.

The next phase of my vaping journey is to look at some mechanicals and try very low resistance. But I do not know much about it at all! First, I always wondered what the attraction of single VV low resistance vaping was, but I always here all the pros rave about the mechanicals so now I am very curious and want to learn more.

So where to start?

 

[forg1vn]

I do swap and change resistance levels. Is it necessary? Probably not.

It's just the way it has panned out for me so far. My vaping journey only began in January and it has got me off the analogs. I consider vaping a bit of a hobby as well and find myself always experimenting with different things.

I started vaping with single voltage EGo C batteries and my first mod was an eVic, so I started straight away using VW to guage my power settings and taste. After, I bought a ProVari VV. Recently I just purchased a Sigelei V3 Telescopic which I think is amazing. VW is how I started and it is what I prefer. Evic is a great mod for beginners.

The next phase of my vaping journey is to look at some mechanicals and try very low resistance. But I do not know much about it at all! First, I always wondered what the attraction of single VV low resistance vaping was, but I always here all the pros rave about the mechanicals so now I am very curious and want to learn more.

So where to start?

"low" resistance vaping, this is resistance under what a VV/VW will allow you to fire, higher amp and watt than allowed on a VV/VW, for example .9ohm @ 19.6W with a fresh battery (in theory only) probalby 10% less due to voltage loss through the device and atty.

where to start, IMHO, learn Ohms law, learn the relation between Volt, Amp, Ohm. Know the parameters at which your battery will allow you to vape at (buy good batterys!) do your homework!

buy a cheap mech and cheap atty and go at it! (sigelei mech, aga-t2, igo-L, etc) see if you like it, RBAs and RDAs in my opinion deliver the best flavor out of anything you put on top of your device...

 

[Statistic]

I don't personally care either way, VV or VW, as long as I'm able to adjust something. I usually prefer VV but even when I'm using VW it's not even close to set and forget. There are too many factors that cause me to want different power levels (juice types, my mood, the delivery system, etc) so setting and forgetting isn't something I do anyways.

 

[KY_Rob]

The biggest benefit of VW, is knowing what wattage works best for which juice. At that point, it doesn't really matter what resistance your coil is (as long as the device can drive it) in order to get the same vapor. This means the device has to be smart enough to reach out to the coil and test it, and then make an adjustment, all automatically. I'm only aware of one device out there that behaves like this, but it doesn't have enough power to drive much of anything greater than 2.5ohms of resistance. This just causes batteries to drain faster, and reduces the range of the vape.

But, as was stated previously, just doing a little math for a coil of known resistance will allow you adjust voltage accordingly and get the same result.

Would I prefer VW for my ProVari's? Yes, because I'm lazy Does not having this reduce my vape satisfaction at all? Not a bit

 

[D4rk50ul]

It's impossible for fan boys to be unbiased and objective, luckily for the rest of us you aren't out there buying up the elite PVs and instead are buying more of these.

 

[The Ocelot]

It's impossible for fan boys to be unbiased and objective, luckily for the rest of us you aren't out there buying up the elite PVs and instead are buying more of these.

What part of this is A forum for ProVari enthusiasts did you misunderstand?

 

[JJOOHHNN]

It's impossible for fan boys to be unbiased and objective, luckily for the rest of us you aren't out there buying up the elite PVs and instead are buying more of these.

I have mentioned Provari's outside of the Provari section but it is only when it was asked about. I only tell them my feelings about it, that it does all I expect of it. When people say it is complicated I have told it is not that complicated, I have posted that it is not as big and as clunky as some people think.

What I have not done is go into other sections and bash products. I have read the other sections but not once said anything in those sections except maybe to ask questions.

I read those sections in deciding what I wanted to get. I almost did get something else moments before changing my mind and getting the Provari.

I was going back and forth over and over again. I would have ended up spending the same amount or a little bit more if I had not gotten the Provari.

 

[D4rk50ul]

What part of this is A forum for ProVari enthusiasts did you misunderstand?

I'm not sure what part of spamming a thread dedicated to not hearing about a provari a hundred times a day did you not.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409234