Good morning everybody . I'm new and researching ,first mech / build......

[bood]

My sense from your decision is you'd opt for the density if you could do without the lag. Hear, hear. I'm with ya on that score.

have to change coils soon..not sure to give kanthal another go as the difference was def there..ss works good.. dont see any shortcoming at moment

So the comparison must be apples and apples too in terms of the capacity you have built. Most of all you need a serious baseline to be able to say I got what I like here.

I 'm a quite casual vaper still guess so but look forward to have it..still need to try some alien clapton coils i have ordered

It would be unfortunate if the only baseline you got to was a sadly laggard parallel-turned-spaced coil which is not easily reproducible, albeit a neat one. You did good to pull out a wind from it. The one characteristic it has that's good, I mentioned…higher mass to surface area.

I'm going to try a 0.25/0.3 ss build next week ...I m sure this time will be much more symmetric . last time i cut off couple of winds from the laggard and it turned out noticeably faster. Also theres a throat harshness from my mech vapes... that I do not have with the justfog ( same liquid 50 50) and need to solve that.

Not raggin'. Just warning. LOL

appreciate any of your insight here really.....

will post picture of next build . I ve been busy on scratching my mech surface with multiple falls last w.e. ........and lurking into scratch removals / diy , and cases later, again. now waiting the airplane lands this three things among others in the mail

 

[Letitia]

Bood your vape would be much smoother if you raised your vg to 70-80. I dripped 50/50 exactly once. Found it to be very unpleasant.
As much as I respect MacTechVpr, I disagree with him regarding flavor with ss wire. I too find my fruit vapes much cleaner with ss 316l. The fruits are more clear and fresh. Even better now that I diy and use no or very little sweetener.

 

[bood]

sure...
coming from the justfog I have some 50/50 to finish ..
yet ordered some pre-flavoured 80/20 too
not in the house though

not gone full diy; have bought a quantity of prepared 50/50 0.3 and 0.6 the last bunch , both flavored and unflavored , some time ago

yes I know I can turn it 70/30 or so adding VG
maybe a day

what I really do not understand is that the justfog - which is basic but cleverly designed imo and produce a decent flavour , doesn't give me practically any harshness on 03 or 06 of nicotine

 

[Letitia]

Tank is an entirely different animal than rda. You simply cannot expect the same vape without making adjustments to rda build and juice.

 

[bood]

you mean better?

 

[Letitia]

I don't compare tank-vs-rta-vs-rdta-vs-rda. I tend to enjoy each for what they bring to the table. I do believe you can better improve the vape from rda the easiest. Since you diy you can use the same flavor base to tailor your juice for each atomizer Higher vg recipe for rda, 80/20 would be my preference. For rda I use lower flavor %, higher for rta. I'm lucky, the same vg/pg/dw levels work for both my rdas & rtas.

 

[bood]

let's speak about it letitia ( briefly )
I can't use rdas because in my daily routine there's no place for it, I cant go around and rejuice the wick on the go / trasnsportation &leakage etc

the other 2 options are on the table

living rdas apart , you prefer rtas or tanks (or rdtas) for what reasons ?

 

[Letitia]

RTA every time. Cheaper to coil/wick, better flavor, and I can tailor my vape to individual juices. Engine Nano is my favorite and I have several. Keep two in rotation and two decks built on standby with different builds to change it up when the mood strikes me or I want to change flavor. The Zeus is becoming another favored rta. I prefer single coil builds, like a cooler vape that I have a hard time achieving with dual coil builds.
RDTA, will admit flavor is superior but enjoy using rta more. more convenient IMO. RDTA is the closest you can get to an rda experience.

 

[bood]

RTA more convenient IMO. RDTA is the closest you can get to an rda experience.

agree

in the meanwhile I'm ok carrying around my rdta . I feel lucky too because it never leaked once ( by airholes and refill/deck design .. it is quite completely impossible it leaks )

you were on spot - I need to tailor 2 3 things before I get there

tanks .. who knows?oh well I know..
the only thing I really dislike about the justfog is that airflow is super reduced..not very satisfying.

but as i said, flavor is pretty decent .. the vape is never hot ... good experience....no hint of harshness in throat ..

 

[Letitia]

I'm still learning to tailor my builds. Have been lazy and ordering pre-built coils from AVS and fell in love with their tri core fc coils. Ordered the spool this time and happy with my recent build. Have found some of my diy tastes better with a simpler build. Still looking for that sweet spot with build/wick. Going to try to twist some 27g today. Glad wire is cheap, will probably go through a quarter of the spool before I get a close toa successful twist. Should have ordered 100' spool. lol

 

[bood]

how frequently do you change your coils /and wicks ?

 

[MacTechVpr]

how frequently do you change your coils /and wicks ?

Never! And that's the truth.

Except for a few juice variations that I enjoy with KGD, Muji or Rayon (rarely). I've converted almost all my authentics in particular to running RxD (3M Nextel). The reason…flow. Both rate and transparency of flow. As you increase surface area and ratio of power to it juice flow must keep up. To understand the limitations of organic media you must build to that kind of flow and usable power. If a Kanthal wind is not uniform in its operation though it may scorch or over-saturate organics. So understanding strain and the preparation of strained coils is essential to making a Kanthal best yield.

3-lead, twisted pos dual tensioned microcoil for the original Kanger Protank.

• MacTechVpr
• Jan 3, 2017
• mactechvpr tensioned microcoil

Funny thing is whether a simple 1.78mm Protank single or the 24AWG parallel twistlead once you wind consistently pulsing to ready one is more straightforward than all the fiddly I ever spent on alt winds. Get there and it really is a head slap moment.

So the answer for me as I tested all of this along with all of you for 4 years has been to conclude that optimizing for density is what gets us the most and consistent expression of flavor a juice can yield. You can always control for diffusion by graduating power applied (coil) or regulating, redirecting airflow as well as graduating draw technique. But you can't get flavor out of vaporization that's not there.

So our options are…higher heat (power) or efficient power concentration.

I've come to realize that many of us just have to run through the paces. Comparison is important. It has been for me as I am utterly skeptical. And that is why I so emphasize finding a simple straight-wire baseline early. As well to give it time so we become familiar with the performance of our fav recipes with that standard. Then you have a very powerful instrument. Your own senses. While flavor memory may be lacking for many of us, the proof is best at hand. A straightforward single wire build at the ready we know delivers the density, temp and flavor result we like.

So @bood, @Letitia enjoy the vape! I'm around, shout out. Stuffs busy on this end but I am getting notifications.

Good luck.

 

[Ben85]

let's speak about it letitia ( briefly )
I can't use rdas because in my daily routine there's no place for it, I cant go around and rejuice the wick on the go / trasnsportation &leakage etc

the other 2 options are on the table

living rdas apart , you prefer rtas or tanks (or rdtas) for what reasons ?

You need to check out squonking. The best of all worlds imo.

 

[bood]

@Ben85 for now I'm a mech+rdta user .. not unhappy about my rdta as it is very practical .
guess a tube + battery + squonk + rdta is not feasible

maybe next..

 

[bood]

@MacTechVpr I guess I am closer to ..well more symmetry ..still probably not close to your standards, and the pictures hide some flaws..

this is my 4th build
(of mine)

later with vape test results

ps organic japanese cotton for the wick

 

[bood]

these 2 btw are my only 510 atomizers
I do not use the kennedy quite at all

back to vape results..
the mech is super fast and cracks the coils nearly instantly. the cloud . but the flavor: not my fav . its dry and more inconsistent . less pleasant.
I guess i will have to try a 10 wind spaced ss and see if it is right halfway between the flavor and fast. what matter me the most at this point is that the justfog -as for pure flavor delivery and pleasure- performs someway better in the way she doesnt carry any harshness in the throat , and her vapour is smoother.

@MacTechVpr vapour and density bigger with this build..but flavor quite better with the justfog (super small chamber very small airflow and small tip too; >1ohm coil )

 

[MacTechVpr]

Thanks to the folks at Kennedy Enterprises for a great holiday sales, I just snagged my first ever auth Kennedy 24. I've had a number of very high qual facsimiles but no sooner do I build 'em then somebody's gotta take 'em off my hands. Usually I relent, with provisos.

Anyway, this one I may hold onto for a while as it's a 3-post comp deck and I intend to show folks how a 6-terminal t.m.c. peg's the r.p.m's on this Ferrari.

Good luck.

 

[bood]

let me see that build..

 

[MacTechVpr]

let me see that build..

Well I will when I get my mits on it…I'll try to move it up in the queue. There's a lot shakin' right now. But here's a light wire version from around the inception of the wind…

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• MacTechVpr
• May 22, 2015

This is the first publicly wound at HoH in PB Fl…

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• MacTechVpr
• Sep 4, 2017

And you've already seen what it does…

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• MacTechVpr
• May 24, 2015

Just like these TLP's…



Focused energy, that's the ticket.

Good luck.

 

[MacTechVpr]

have to change coils soon..not sure to give kanthal another go as the difference was def there..ss works good.. dont see any shortcoming at moment

I 'm a quite casual vaper still guess so but look forward to have it..still need to try some alien clapton coils i have ordered I'm going to try a 0.25/0.3 ss build next week ...I m sure this time will be much more symmetric . last time i cut off couple of winds from the laggard and it turned out noticeably faster. Also theres a throat harshness from my mech vapes... that I do not have with the justfog ( same liquid 50 50) and need to solve that.

appreciate any of your insight here really.....

will post picture of next build . I ve been busy on scratching my mech surface with multiple falls last w.e. ........and lurking into scratch removals / diy , and cases later, again. now waiting the airplane lands this three things among others in the mail

Like the TTG tactical. I've got a few similar. Problem is I travel with a lot of gear. Def useful. Seldom leave the house with less than 2 or 3 mods and a stealth beater.

Good luck.

p.s. Back in the day when I rode 2-wheelers daily I used to bungee my kit to the buddy seat. Had several good photo bags that did the job nicely. Really need to look at that again.