Good morning everybody . I'm new and researching ,first mech / build......

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good photo bags
funny I have one -very high quality- thing.. of those handy padded carry bag waterproof hooks and all the frills , empty and completely unused from years.
1 mech mod to carry around here..talk about different needs..


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I gues my Kennedy has that 3post option too ,who knows I'm gonna use it ..
but then I need portability ..

I wonder how people can live with rdas /and stock them too, insane amounts
probably they vape home a lot more then outside

Final thought there…after boats, bikes, trucks and stick shift auto's all my life, handling the comfortable highway cruiser while dripping is no big strain. But I can see where dripping while coordinating shift points and navigating twisties in your neck of the woods might be a challenge. I know…it's a hard choice reachin for the stick or the vape.

Good luck. :)
 
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not my cup of tea..
driving+dripping..

btw , had some deliveries in the morning
and the famous ss 'flat' alien coils

sorry cant zoom macro more with my phone
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Some decent ones can be had. One of the few multi-wire shredded wheat themes that come close to resembling a heating element, for their surface area relative to aspect ratio…as opposed to serious art which I think it is (lest some think I'm opposed).

But I gotta warn ya bood, no amount of prodding me with pic's of all the coils you'll try instead is going to induce me to make one for ya. Takes all the fun away from the moment you say I could'a had' a, eventually. Just sayin'.

Good luck. :)

p.s. pic ok, don't need to be a glamour pose.
p.s.s. if you have small hand held magnifier, it'll aid close focus.
 

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But I gotta warn ya bood, no amount of prodding me with pic's of all the coils you'll try instead is going to induce me to make one for ya. Takes all the fun away from the moment you say I could'a had' a, eventually
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never say never...,,and I'd be thrilled to finally try one kanthal state of the art build ....

macro / zoom not for glamour for details

will write the "alien build" vape results soon
 
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on another note , @MacTechVpr or anyone else : did you ever find or diy an e-liquid that approaches smoked tobacco / cigarette taste ..( at least little more then the ordinary eliquid you can buy online which are 90% of case too sweet - my exp)

Anyone can make a fairly satisfying tobacco recipe but not exceptional. All you need is a decent RY4 base that plays nice with other tab ingredients like TFA RY4 Double. But you'll need real tobacco in the end. Either a tab absolute or NET component to make it exceptional and truer to your minds eye perception of a great vape.

My strategy is research. To find those of the latter tab accents which are the most appealing and successfully used by other DIY vapers. If you fit into that broad spectrum of taste preferences we most of us share that should give you a wide goal post to shoot for. I'd focus on the real tobacco first.

I've found @dannyv45's thread Favorite tobacco flavoring discussion - Tobacco flavoring discussion only | E-Cigarette Forum informative and entertaining.

Good luck. :)
 

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had a fast reading there lately ..
now reading how to extract (and make) diy tobacco flavor from tobacco

most decent tobacco vape I've had is from a super cheap chinese brand ..but not close to a marlboro i.e.

other casual pricey adv brands didn't make any tobacco vape taste really in my mouth throat and lungs


I vape 3 mg/ml now.. sure a 12 or 18 vape feels quite more tobaccoish..
but would like to stay at 3 mg/ml
 

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got halfway reading Best tobacco for flavor extraction very interesting..fascinating

will finish tomorrow

but I am sure that given the time and efforts needed its not for me, will have to look for another option

DIY tab extraction to me is well beyond vaping as a lifestyle or even serious hobby, it's more akin to tobacco as art or religion. Might as well be a grower, just to be sure.

Two blogs you might want to bookmark…
dannyv45's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Bill's Magic Vapor's blog - Page 2 | E-Cigarette Forum

The latter from a professional commercial maker and physicist… @Bill's Magic Vapor, one of the first to validate some of the science behind my adaptation of strain to winding closed contact vaporizing coils. In fact he designed and built the very first dedicated practical tensioned microcoil winding jig (I think, may be found on his blog). My grateful thanks always my dear friend.

Good luck. :)
 
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how much PG do you use in your mixes? what alerts in smoking a 100%VG (minus nicotine and flavor)?

Short answer: No more than 20% usually.

See the goal as balancing vapor volume and fidelity to flavor.

The kitchen table science few talk about is WATER. Due to its low boiling point it vaporizes faster and in so great a proportion (~1400:1 by vol) than either PG/VG that it serves as the main component in vaporization for our purposes. This volatile evaporative expansion aerosolizes the juice as a mechanical process. I believe relatively little actual vaporization of the main carriers or bases actually takes place. It may perhaps through the very high heat of diffusion. This may add some flavor but high heat no doubt to me alters our taste of those flavors. In any case I believe this to be minimal. Water is the fuel for this engine.

So here I'd suggest…consider the above as you evaluate your coil designs or configurations and particularly the part that compression of liquids and air play in the vaporization process (think automotive combustion as an example, or pressure cooking). How does a focus or concentration of power or energy impact that?

Personally, I try not have add water to any mixes. My experiments using water as an ingredient early on were inconclusive. Instead I narrowed down my sources of VG base to a water ratio I found most conducive to good flavor and vapor production. I try to limit any non VG based ingredients as best as possible as not to affect the net water % too much.

The percent of water in our base or as a proportion of our mix is important. This varies with every recipe (ingredients) but far less so than the % of the VG used itself which is the major and critical part.

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Most of my mixes are max vg/7%dw. If flavor % is low, 80vg/20pg/7%dw. I have found my lungs feel better with dw added. Keep in mind with these percentages I primarily use RTAs. Works for my RDAs pretty well.
I can't really use much PG I am sensitive to it, so instead of PG I use DW in my VG mixes. I was surprised, but it improved them considerably, wicking and temp sure, but also (in my eyes surprisingly) flavor. It's a good thinner provided you don't overdo it.... :)

D'ya ever notice if you leave a bottle of juice uncapped a while or open it a bunch over time it can go rather flat? Glycerin is a humectant. Just sayin'.

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I only leave uncapped if favoring has alcohol. About an hour after mixing and another hour after steeping.

I'm flavor sensitive as you seem to be too. Even small % EM is overwhelming. Simple accents like AP can overpower easily although sometimes important to a recipe. Absynthe or the like I have to let air and steep out to really enjoy. I've seen these flavorings seem to ebb in popularity among vendors. Dunno. I actually do prefer the end product using them and amassed quite a collection for a time. Since last year I've been doing more volume DIY for a number of wire studies and I've pretty much gone ready-to-vape.

I'm not so sure about your percentages above Leti. Would you double check and curious too what gear level you vape at and watt/temp you like at those %'s. Just a snapshot. Thx.

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I try not to leave my bottles uncapped for long periods of time, honestly. Juice left in a tank for too long unused goes flat or evaporates some or whatever it does.... If I don't reuse it for a long time but that's easily taken care of.a

My conclusion is that it's not so much what's lost as what's taken in. However, some flavorings do lose some potency in the process affecting their shelf life. This I found can radically effect the character of the recipe. And apart from oxidation if glycerin is that absorptive, can it serve as a carrier to import signatures which may account for flavor changes?

Good luck. :)
 
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