Well, perhaps not the exact recipe. But a clone that is close enough to appease our cravings will do just fine by me 
Gorilla Juice DIY clone : Feedback needed.
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I'm not trying to match 100% (this was actually accidental trying to make a base for something else) maybe someone else can go the whole 9 yards. I actually prefer mine 50/50 mix, the flavors come out more IMHO. I had even said previously that they might be using someone else's flavorings hence some of the differences..
Thank you for the feedback though, I was aware they are 100%vg but some other people reading may not be.
i didnt know they were 100% vg, even though i mix at around 95% vg the other 5% is the PG that comes from my flavorings.. i should be getting some delicious CAP flavorings tomorrow, along with some TPA i cant get from WL and some FW i really cant wait to get that sugar cookie flavor... i want to see what the fuss is about when i mix some of STR8V8pings stuff.
Okay, got my flavorings in. Just mixed a batch up > 15% Graham Cracker, 5% Banana nut bread, 4 drops TFA sweetener. Contrary to what I am used to, I mixed it at 70VG/30PG, still need to experiment with the ratio to see if I can tolerate it.
I didn't use the Pie Crust, but, I can immediately tell that something is missing compared to the OGJ (original Gorilla juice). It feels 'lighter' in flavor. I have ~2mls left of some OGJ, and though this blend is good, it lacks that certain robust/thick flavored quality compared to the original. Could this be due to the PG? I honestly don't think so, as it's an issue of flavor, rather than feel/texture. Though, I will mix a bottle of all VG in the near future, just because.
I wonder if by using a similar recipe, though with different flavoring brands, the results would be enough to actually mimic the OGJ. The more I puff on it, the more my mind is assimilating the blends as one. Still, as you had said in previous posts, it's missing something. Perhaps a different flavor brand could be it, perhaps an actual ingredient. I will allow this blend a few days to cook.
Still, all in all, not a bad blend.
Edit: I wanted to ask, to all that are viewing, is there a list of all VG flavoring based suppliers? Surely if the list can be narrowed down, and if alien Visions truly uses all VG flavorings, the recipe cannot be that hard to mimic.
I didn't use the Pie Crust, but, I can immediately tell that something is missing compared to the OGJ (original Gorilla juice). It feels 'lighter' in flavor. I have ~2mls left of some OGJ, and though this blend is good, it lacks that certain robust/thick flavored quality compared to the original. Could this be due to the PG? I honestly don't think so, as it's an issue of flavor, rather than feel/texture. Though, I will mix a bottle of all VG in the near future, just because.
I wonder if by using a similar recipe, though with different flavoring brands, the results would be enough to actually mimic the OGJ. The more I puff on it, the more my mind is assimilating the blends as one. Still, as you had said in previous posts, it's missing something. Perhaps a different flavor brand could be it, perhaps an actual ingredient. I will allow this blend a few days to cook.
Still, all in all, not a bad blend.
Edit: I wanted to ask, to all that are viewing, is there a list of all VG flavoring based suppliers? Surely if the list can be narrowed down, and if alien Visions truly uses all VG flavorings, the recipe cannot be that hard to mimic.
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Yeah, its definitely missing something. I think playing with the different flavor makers is a great idea too.. I just liked the PG in there for throat hit and better juice feeding, OGJ doenst have much TH imho. I really want to try with a SMALL touch of cherry in there..
But im not crazy that its similar right ? I kept vaping it and another PV with the OGJ and they just seemed so similar on my tongue.
No doubt.
I am enjoying it, truly. The more I vape on it, and if I didn't take another hit of the OGJ, I could be easily fooled to enjoy this almost as much. If there could really be no further moves towards making it more like the original, I think I could be satisfied with the recipe as is.
This isn't going to deter me from experimenting though. Where's the fun in that?
No doubt.
I am enjoying it, truly. The more I vape on it, and if I didn't take another hit of the OGJ, I could be easily fooled to enjoy this almost as much. If there could really be no further moves towards making it more like the original, I think I could be satisfied with the recipe as is.
This isn't going to deter me from experimenting though. Where's the fun in that?
Yeah, Im still experimenting trying to find that missing element... well.. because its FUN!!! lol plus I get to vape (what I think) is a great juice in the meantime. I have roughly 100 flavorings and maybe 20 of them could mate well with this.. but so far none are the "it". Im going to get some cherry flavorings and see, I have to follow my taste buds on this one, thats how I got here.
so why no pie crust? is there something in there that is bad? or just not something you like ?
As far as it being lighter, give it a little steep.. to me, it rounds out and gets more depth.. in the first 24 it seems a little flat to me.
Heh, it always makes me smile when I see that you're attempting cherry
Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking you for it. It's just so odd to me. Alas, everyone tastes differently, and I am curious to hear the results. Well, the reason I did no pie crust wasn't so much a discrimination against the flavor itself. Rather, I just imagined that there wasn't much of a difference between that and the graham cracker. Plus, as much as I'd like to buy every single flavor imaginable and mix a bottle of each for testing, I cannot afford it. So, I went with what I thought would be best. Got some PG, sweetener, the graham cracker, and the banana nut bread. I got the sweetener because though I enjoy ethyl maltol, I feel that it shouldn't be put in every blend. I like it in fruity blends, but I wanted some other form of sweetener for tobaccos and sweet blends. Still experimenting.
Heh, it always makes me smile when I see that you're attempting cherry
Makes me smile too, because its crazy imho, but crazy is what got me to this mix.. I dont taste it while im vaping it.. put a drop of OGJ on your finger and wipe it around your tongue, thats when I taste it, but not in the vape itself.. at all.
Yeah, im not sure the pie crust adds anything significant. I have 2 mixed right now and one without it. I cant tell them apart. I have to keep vaping one of my blueberry/apple mixes to reset my palate.
I have read alot about DIY and i have noticed that sometimes it takes some weird mixing of flavors to make something genius pop at the very end.. sometimes the trick is steeping, and sometimes it can be a random tobacco flavor in a delicious dessert recipe... its weird but sometimes it really does work that way...
After vaping this blend all night at work, I have come to start tasting a buttery flavor to it. Not necessarily bad, but, I cannot vape it all day. I don't know if it's because of the graham cracker, the sweetener, or the banana nut bread, but if I can figure it out, I am going to tune it down in the next batch.
I've got to expand my tobacco inventory a little bit. I figure a tobacco would do good to round off the sweetness of this current recipe. Work in progress.
I've got to expand my tobacco inventory a little bit. I figure a tobacco would do good to round off the sweetness of this current recipe. Work in progress.
Just whipped up a bit. Damn it smells delicious.
EDIT - By the way, I noticed you mentioned that you wished AVE offered double flavor. They now offer a "flavor bump" during checkout. Not sure when the site is going to be back up though but hopefully they still have GJ and BB left over from Friday.
EDIT again - I'm looking for VG based flavorings now. TPA has a small section of non-PG flavorings and is located in California. I recall reading somewhere another Boba's DIY thread somewhere on the forums and somebody noted that he once said his supplier is in California. Could be wrong though.
EDIT again again - Yeah there aren't really any non-PG flavors from TPA that I could see being in BB/GJ. Since the majority of AVE is 100% VG, the supplier would have to offer a lot of non-PG flavors. I'll keep looking.
And another EDIT - ECBlendFlavors has a big selection of 100% VG flavorings and they're based in the US.
Okay, I'm done marking every EDIT now - As far as I can see, all flavor extracts from MadVapes are in alcohol with no PG.
Vaperite has organic non-PG flavorings. High Desert Vapes also has a non-PG section, notably their Tobacco Blend which I believe is just Tobacco Absolute.
There is also http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/343267-pg-free-flavors.html which links to many other threads on the subject.
EDIT - By the way, I noticed you mentioned that you wished AVE offered double flavor. They now offer a "flavor bump" during checkout. Not sure when the site is going to be back up though but hopefully they still have GJ and BB left over from Friday.
EDIT again - I'm looking for VG based flavorings now. TPA has a small section of non-PG flavorings and is located in California. I recall reading somewhere another Boba's DIY thread somewhere on the forums and somebody noted that he once said his supplier is in California. Could be wrong though.
EDIT again again - Yeah there aren't really any non-PG flavors from TPA that I could see being in BB/GJ. Since the majority of AVE is 100% VG, the supplier would have to offer a lot of non-PG flavors. I'll keep looking.
And another EDIT - ECBlendFlavors has a big selection of 100% VG flavorings and they're based in the US.
Okay, I'm done marking every EDIT now - As far as I can see, all flavor extracts from MadVapes are in alcohol with no PG.
Vaperite has organic non-PG flavorings. High Desert Vapes also has a non-PG section, notably their Tobacco Blend which I believe is just Tobacco Absolute.
There is also http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/343267-pg-free-flavors.html which links to many other threads on the subject.
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Man, I could be way off, but, I am starting to think that the missing element is indeed a tobacco.
As I had previously said, the recipe as it is now is almost a little too buttery sweet for me. So, just for fun, I dripped some of my Black Honey/Vanilla mix into the atty along with a drip of this mix. Now, don't quote that as being the key to this enigma, the missing ingredient(s) is definitely not Black Honey Tobacco
However, the buttery-ness seems to chill out and robust is definitely added to the equation, albeit different from the OGJ. I really need to start trying out more tobacco flavors here soon. If I wasn't on a chocolate mission... too many options, not enough money.
Also, I think that investigating into PG-free flavors is a great component in unraveling this mystery. Another front I wish to take on here in the near future.
As I had previously said, the recipe as it is now is almost a little too buttery sweet for me. So, just for fun, I dripped some of my Black Honey/Vanilla mix into the atty along with a drip of this mix. Now, don't quote that as being the key to this enigma, the missing ingredient(s) is definitely not Black Honey Tobacco
However, the buttery-ness seems to chill out and robust is definitely added to the equation, albeit different from the OGJ. I really need to start trying out more tobacco flavors here soon. If I wasn't on a chocolate mission... too many options, not enough money.
Also, I think that investigating into PG-free flavors is a great component in unraveling this mystery. Another front I wish to take on here in the near future.
Man, I could be way off, but, I am starting to think that the missing element is indeed a tobacco.
As I had previously said, the recipe as it is now is almost a little too buttery sweet for me. So, just for fun, I dripped some of my Black Honey/Vanilla mix into the atty along with a drip of this mix. Now, don't quote that as being the key to this enigma, the missing ingredient(s) is definitely not Black Honey Tobacco
However, the buttery-ness seems to chill out and robust is definitely added to the equation, albeit different from the OGJ. I really need to start trying out more tobacco flavors here soon. If I wasn't on a chocolate mission... too many options, not enough money.
Also, I think that investigating into PG-free flavors is a great component in unraveling this mystery. Another front I wish to take on here in the near future.
I find many turkish tobaccos remind me of GJ and Bobas. Might give that a try.
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I might try this, unless it includes Desert Ship (Gold the same thing?) I know for a fact that I despise that flavor.
The only tobaccos I've got on me are Black Honey and Desert Ship, so I think I'll wait. I'm going to venture a guess and say that the tobacco absolute might be a good route to try if anyone else has any. From what I've heard, it is very sweet, strong, and thick. In my (very limited) experience with 100% VG juices, BB/GJ seem to be thicker.
By the way, how long have you guys let this stuff steep? I only mixed it 12 hours ago but I can't stop smelling it. Smells amazing.
By the way, how long have you guys let this stuff steep? I only mixed it 12 hours ago but I can't stop smelling it. Smells amazing.
I allow it enough time to shake the bottle and drip in to my atty. That is my idea of steeping.
Good enough for me! I don't have a clean atty around though. I've got an HH357 coming in tomorrow. Hopefully I can wait that long.
I didn't have any clean attys when I started DIYing
I just vape plain VG (or PG if you have it) and it seems to clear the previous flavor off good enough to try out a new flavor.
Ah thanks for that, I forgot that I could use PG/VG to clean. I haven't used any atomizers since I started vaping (I'm more of a carto guy I guess) so I was just asking over in the Atty section questions about cleaning/flavor swapping. Thanks!
And while I'm posting I'll ask - does anyone have the ingredients to make this mix+some sort of tobacco absolute? I'm curious to see how a bit of that affects the taste. The recommended tobacco absolute standalone recipe calls for only 2%, so it must be a fairly strong flavor.
I think if I make this mix again I'll try a bit of Desert Ship and see what I get. Has anybody tried DS in this yet?
And while I'm posting I'll ask - does anyone have the ingredients to make this mix+some sort of tobacco absolute? I'm curious to see how a bit of that affects the taste. The recommended tobacco absolute standalone recipe calls for only 2%, so it must be a fairly strong flavor.
I think if I make this mix again I'll try a bit of Desert Ship and see what I get. Has anybody tried DS in this yet?
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