I am looking forward to posting this Heron build. It is the best out of 5 for now.
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Perseas,
Ever think of offering some sort of a paid subscription to an upgrade plan for your products? Perhaps like a flat fee per product to offer any revisions to the original purchaser within a certain time frame...
Like I was thinking to myself just now, "Wow, I bet shortly after I get this Heron, there will be a v1.5 following it!" LOL
Ever think of offering some sort of a paid subscription to an upgrade plan for your products? Perhaps like a flat fee per product to offer any revisions to the original purchaser within a certain time frame...
Like I was thinking to myself just now, "Wow, I bet shortly after I get this Heron, there will be a v1.5 following it!" LOL
Perseas,
Ever think of offering some sort of a paid subscription to an upgrade plan for your products? Perhaps like a flat fee per product to offer any revisions to the original purchaser within a certain time frame...
Like I was thinking to myself just now, "Wow, I bet shortly after I get this Heron, there will be a v1.5 following it!" LOL
I'd consider that.
HERON: Cotton Ball Wick
~Same coil (1Ω micro), just dry-burned and replaced the S'n'C with Cotton Ball
COTTON WICK INSERTED & JUICED:
WICK POPPED THRU THE CHAMBER LID:
FIRING THE BUILD:
THOUGHTS:
Used a little more cotton than I normally do. Kept the wick-tail longer (popping out of the 'lid'). Half a day now, vaping perfectly! Cotton ball always chunks more vapor than S'n'C ~ so it is here. TH remains the same, but Flavor seems to be more pronounced. Not immediately, unlike the S'n'C. Took a while (around 7-10 minutes of vaping) then started to taste fantastic. The juice is the same ~ Stinky Canuck's Pink Poison, which is a 70/30 PG/VG sweetish blend.
~Same coil (1Ω micro), just dry-burned and replaced the S'n'C with Cotton Ball
COTTON WICK INSERTED & JUICED:
WICK POPPED THRU THE CHAMBER LID:
FIRING THE BUILD:
THOUGHTS:
Used a little more cotton than I normally do. Kept the wick-tail longer (popping out of the 'lid'). Half a day now, vaping perfectly! Cotton ball always chunks more vapor than S'n'C ~ so it is here. TH remains the same, but Flavor seems to be more pronounced. Not immediately, unlike the S'n'C. Took a while (around 7-10 minutes of vaping) then started to taste fantastic. The juice is the same ~ Stinky Canuck's Pink Poison, which is a 70/30 PG/VG sweetish blend.
Testing a new Heron build, so far so good. Watch the entire video.
http://youtu.be/3UixC3M8dw8
http://youtu.be/3UixC3M8dw8
PLEASE NOTE
I have only started testing this. I have to play around with wick size etc. I also need to find out what happens when the tank isn't full. I have a feeling when it drops below 1/3 it will start leaking just like an EVOD. Time will tell.
I have only started testing this. I have to play around with wick size etc. I also need to find out what happens when the tank isn't full. I have a feeling when it drops below 1/3 it will start leaking just like an EVOD. Time will tell.
Perseas,
Ever think of offering some sort of a paid subscription to an upgrade plan for your products? Perhaps like a flat fee per product to offer any revisions to the original purchaser within a certain time frame...
Like I was thinking to myself just now, "Wow, I bet shortly after I get this Heron, there will be a v1.5 following it!" LOL
Nice idea, but it would be a nightmare for my accountants to handle it
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The GP Heron (Spheroid on steroids) is designed as an evolved version of the overtly successful GP Spheroid - and it's intended to 'hold' juice with a filler material, like the GP Fluff, so that this duo are the only 100% leak-resistant RBA under all weather conditions, including the vagaries of flight and altitude changes.
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I've now vaped three full tanks without any filler material holding the juice. No dry hits, no gurgling. I was sceptical at first, but it works and it works great. Much like when using filler material, when it goes dry, it's empty. There wasn't any indication it was getting low.
There's only one tricky part , and that's the wick. It needs to be thin enough in the coil to vape well, but thick enough to completely seal the hole in the topper off. It's slightly annoying to wick properly, but IMO it's worth it. I have no issues using the fluff in the tank and I never have. But I also like to experiment and try new builds and new things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't. Some builds have pros and some have cons, so you keep trying new things and push onward. Ive done the regular style builds in the Heron already, with the topper and without the topper, with cottons balls or cotton yarn ( I even tried silica ...) and so far this way of setting it up is my favourite. Also, getting 4mls of juice in the tank is nice because the space normally occupied by the fluff is freed up for juice.
I'm just using a simple 1.4ohm 30g micro wrapped on a 1/16 drill bit. (sorry but even though I'm in canada i don't know what 30g wire is in metric off the top of my head)
I'll start with pictures of all the Heron parts broken down. Sorry if they're a little blurry, I dropped my iPhone 5s in water a little while ago and sometimes the camera isn't the clearest up close now.
The Gpin is slightly different in the Heron when compared against the PAPS X1.5, this is because much like the Spheriod the top part of the pin needs to stretch over and make contact with the positive screw post.
Once it's assembled it screws in to the bottom of the base.
Next you need to add the AFC ring. There is a slot in the ring and three small holes in the side of the Heron. Unfortunately I can't measure them but if I had to guess I would say they are somewhere around 1mm.
At this point you would attach your coil, and generally attach your wick before putting on the drip well ring (at least that's what I'm calling it). Because of how I'm wicking this, I need to have it on before hand.
This is the annoying part with this build, but with a steady hand and some fine tipped tweezers it's not too bad.
Something i should stress here. There really isn't need to run the Heron without fluff, and I don't think the need for it is a flaw in the atty at all or anything like that. I'm simply showing that it can be done.
Also, as I said above, getting the wick just right is a little annoying. It needs to be thin enough at one end to wick properly to the coil, but thick enough to plug up the hole but not too thick because you'll choke the juice flow.
Wet it with some juice and let it soak down to the coil.
The top cap and air tube. Notice it's held on at both ends with o-rings, and they fit perfectly, not too tight and not too lose. Can you imagine the OCD if we couldn't line up engravings???
The tank.
Fill your tank up.
The bell on the air tube seals with the small red oring you so you want to make sure there is nothing obstructing it, I just push the wick over to the side.
Vape.
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The GP Heron (Spheroid on steroids) is designed as an evolved version of the overtly successful GP Spheroid - and it's intended to 'hold' juice with a filler material, like the GP Fluff, so that this duo are the only 100% leak-resistant RBA under all weather conditions, including the vagaries of flight and altitude changes.
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The GP Heron (Spheroid on steroids) is designed as an evolved version of the overtly successful GP Spheroid - and it's intended to 'hold' juice with a filler material, like the GP Fluff, so that this duo are the only 100% leak-resistant RBA under all weather conditions, including the vagaries of flight and altitude changes.
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I've now vaped three full tanks without any filler material holding the juice. No dry hits, no gurgling. I was sceptical at first, but it works and it works great. Much like when using filler material, when it goes dry, it's empty. There wasn't any indication it was getting low.
There's only one tricky part , and that's the wick. It needs to be thin enough in the coil to vape well, but thick enough to completely seal the hole in the topper off. It's slightly annoying to wick properly, but IMO it's worth it. I have no issues using the fluff in the tank and I never have. But I also like to experiment and try new builds and new things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't. Some builds have pros and some have cons, so you keep trying new things and push onward. Ive done the regular style builds in the Heron already, with the topper and without the topper, with cottons balls or cotton yarn ( I even tried silica ...) and so far this way of setting it up is my favourite. Also, getting 4mls of juice in the tank is nice because the space normally occupied by the fluff is freed up for juice.
I'm just using a simple 1.4ohm 30g micro wrapped on a 1/16 drill bit. (sorry but even though I'm in canada i don't know what 30g wire is in metric off the top of my head)
I'll start with pictures of all the Heron parts broken down. Sorry if they're a little blurry, I dropped my iPhone 5s in water a little while ago and sometimes the camera isn't the clearest up close now.
The Gpin is slightly different in the Heron when compared against the PAPS X1.5, this is because much like the Spheriod the top part of the pin needs to stretch over and make contact with the positive screw post.
Once it's assembled it screws in to the bottom of the base.
Next you need to add the AFC ring. There is a slot in the ring and three small holes in the side of the Heron. Unfortunately I can't measure them but if I had to guess I would say they are somewhere around 1mm.
At this point you would attach your coil, and generally attach your wick before putting on the drip well ring (at least that's what I'm calling it). Because of how I'm wicking this, I need to have it on before hand.
This is the annoying part with this build, but with a steady hand and some fine tipped tweezers it's not too bad.
Something i should stress here. There really isn't need to run the Heron without fluff, and I don't think the need for it is a flaw in the atty at all or anything like that. I'm simply showing that it can be done.
Also, as I said above, getting the wick just right is a little annoying. It needs to be thin enough at one end to wick properly to the coil, but thick enough to plug up the hole but not too thick because you'll choke the juice flow.
Wet it with some juice and let it soak down to the coil.
The top cap and air tube. Notice it's held on at both ends with o-rings, and they fit perfectly, not too tight and not too lose. Can you imagine the OCD if we couldn't line up engravings???
The tank.
Fill your tank up.
The bell on the air tube seals with the small red oring you so you want to make sure there is nothing obstructing it, I just push the wick over to the side.
Vape.
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The GP Heron (Spheroid on steroids) is designed as an evolved version of the overtly successful GP Spheroid - and it's intended to 'hold' juice with a filler material, like the GP Fluff, so that this duo are the only 100% leak-resistant RBA under all weather conditions, including the vagaries of flight and altitude changes.
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^Nice, but dangerous.
Since the tank section isn't threaded and sits only by pressing against 'O' rings > a slight, sudden &/or chance knock could dislodge it from the deck > and then you had it
Since the tank section isn't threaded and sits only by pressing against 'O' rings > a slight, sudden &/or chance knock could dislodge it from the deck > and then you had it
^Nice, but dangerous.
Since the tank section isn't threaded and sits only by pressing against 'O' rings > a slight, sudden &/or chance knock could dislodge it from the deck > and then you had it
I edited the post so it has a few more pictures and is just a bit longer.
As for the tank coming off, I suppose it could happen, but I haven't had any issues yet.
Q, you know you want to try it.... do it......
Chad,
definitely a great idea, I know that you hypothesized about doing it, and now you've done it
I'll give it a shot when I get my Heron, but the thing that I always loved with the fluff is the fact that you can take that tank off and place it on its side and not worry about the juice leaking out. While a really cool idea on your part, the originally intended design beats it by a few points for convenience
definitely a great idea, I know that you hypothesized about doing it, and now you've done it
I'll give it a shot when I get my Heron, but the thing that I always loved with the fluff is the fact that you can take that tank off and place it on its side and not worry about the juice leaking out. While a really cool idea on your part, the originally intended design beats it by a few points for convenience
Chad,
definitely a great idea, I know that you hypothesized about doing it, and now you've done it
I'll give it a shot when I get my Heron, but the thing that I always loved with the fluff is the fact that you can take that tank off and place it on its side and not worry about the juice leaking out. While a really cool idea on your part, the originally intended design beats it by a few points for convenience
I don't disagree with you. The no fluff is finicky for sure. Just having some fun and seeing what works and what doesn't etc.
Already done! But we do not promote.
For one, as mentioned afore. For two, Team-GP hasn't designed the Heron to go without fluff, if it was ~ there'd be 'fill-ports' like the SnP and the section would've been threaded like the Spheroid. And there's a reason for that.
For three, we don't want to encourage ideas which might put the user at some inconvenience at a/ny moment of time (especially the "new at Spheroid/Heron" folks) and then s/he comes back irked & start bashing GP product/s all over the forums - for no fault of the designer or the modding team.
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Let ye be all known: The Heron is designed as an extension of the overtly successful GP-Spheroid ~ and it's intended to 'hold' juice with a filler material, like the GP-Fluff, so that this duo are the only 100% leak-proof RBA under all weather conditions, including the vagaries of flight and altitude changes√
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Cool idea though for a GP Tank RBA, I think
Not sure if anyone has designed anything like this where the juice flows down like that, not via wells like in the KFL, but directly onto the wick. I think that there's something there, and you can make the actual tank in glass Perhaps Perseas and Team will consider this, but the the systems would need to be designed somehow differently in order to make the rewicking less of a pain.I agree Q, which is why I said that numberous times this isn't how it's designed persé and that there is no reason to not use the fluff and that I think it's great as designed.
There are people all the time I see asking if you can do it , and the answer is yes with some 'buts'.
If the 'buts' aren't big enough to turn you off of if it's a perfectly legitimate way to use the atty.
Pretty much every atty on the market is designed for mesh or silica. This is the first atty I can think of that has a piece that makes it designed for cotton use. And when you throw cotton in to the mix with that topper piece you can start doing interesting things. Not using filler is one of them.
After I'm done this tank I'll be going back to setting it up exactly like a Spheroid cause I believe the vape is better that way, but it doesn't mean I won't set it up with no fluff now and then.
There are people all the time I see asking if you can do it , and the answer is yes with some 'buts'.
If the 'buts' aren't big enough to turn you off of if it's a perfectly legitimate way to use the atty.
Pretty much every atty on the market is designed for mesh or silica. This is the first atty I can think of that has a piece that makes it designed for cotton use. And when you throw cotton in to the mix with that topper piece you can start doing interesting things. Not using filler is one of them.
After I'm done this tank I'll be going back to setting it up exactly like a Spheroid cause I believe the vape is better that way, but it doesn't mean I won't set it up with no fluff now and then.
No need to design anything differently or tweak anything at all. The Heron is perfect as is in it's intended setup. Refer to my above post.
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