GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

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Take a look at this short version : European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - 10 key changes for tobacco products sold in the EU

In a nut shell, every European country will have a similar implementation of the EU directive or a more restrictive one with common denominators, the childproof design for switches and refilling process, leakage-proof design (cartridge would be the proper term ...), packaging specs, max capacity of devices 2 ml and safety/quality specs. Additionally, there will be annual fees and import applications for every EU country a company wants to sell its products. A device has to be approved 6 months prior its circulation, separately for every EU country with extra applications and fees and the same applies to any version of the same device. Financial data, designs, safety data and even predictions of sales have to be declared annually plus extra fees, because they will have to keep archives! No advertising online or anywhere and possibility to ban cross-border distant sales. The liquids will be sold at 10 ml bottles max. The DIY market will soar of course.
You have nothing to worry about, because you can't change the outcome. I had spoken about it extensively on the old VaporWall forum in 2012-13 and briefly here: The whole vaping movement is possible to function under industry standards in the near future . Standardisation is the modus operandi of our world, because it can exploit the new markets in favour of the big players solely. The bureaucracy as a distraction strategy coupled with taxes, laws and fear mongering speech about safety is a very old method of creating monopolies and control.
Que sera, sera :)
I appreciate your well phrased and considered reply, but certainly regret the content.
Those in the US have hopes, perhaps futile, that the new administration may reverse damaging (to vapers and the industry) regulations. That remains to be seen.
The EU is in some jeopardy structurally. So, its damaging regulations may be muted.

I'm saddened by the impact on my favored vaping businesses: Vapourart, Provari...
I wish you well and we hope for the best.
 

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What about replacement parts? Will they be available in the future (screws, insulators, springs...) or ist this the final sale?

We'll try to have these parts available as long as possible. It isn't cost-effective to produce limited quantities at 50-60% discounted prices. If we have enough demand to justify production, we'll offer them at their regular prices. Such is the case of the 18650 tubes for the v3 and v4. They will be ready in a few weeks or sooner and they will be available at the regular price.
 

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I appreciate your well phrased and considered reply, but certainly regret the content.
Those in the US have hopes, perhaps futile, that the new administration may reverse damaging (to vapers and the industry) regulations. That remains to be seen.
The EU is in some jeopardy structurally. So, its damaging regulations may be muted.

I'm saddened by the impact on my favored vaping businesses: Vapourart, Provari...
I wish you well and we hope for the best.

Thank you, I appreciate the sentiment and your kindness! It was obvious from the beginning that vaping industry will change hands when it matures. We all raise a sheep to be milked properly by aliens, a story old as the world, just the name of the sheep shifts and then we call it education, religion, war, law and commerce. Idiot* is the legal definition :)

The word IDIOT derives from the Hellenic word ΙΔΙΩΤΗΣ < ΙΔΙΟΣ which means similar. One interested only for himself and not caring for the common good. Idiot in ancient Athens called the foreigner. Usually a merchant who did not take part in the public affairs of the city. He wasn't present in the councils and the public discussions. He couldn't vote or elected to office. These rights-obligations were for the Athenian citizens. For the Athenians to not take part was laziness. First, you were a member of society and then an individual. Your main concern was to care about society. Indeed, one who did not take part, they would take away his civil rights (social death). Followed by the seizure of his property and finally exile or death!

The idiots were heavily taxed to balance their lack of participation. The citizens contributed freely for the good of the city. Of course the elections in democracy were not done by voting, but with drawing. We don't vote to find the best doctor to operate a brain surgery, why should we vote for governance? Evolution with the environment and parasitism are the two paths that all civilisations in history travel by. The parasitism is not self-sustained, it needs energy and resources from another civilisations. We progress to a homogeneous parasitic world by depleting everything with our idiocy. Except we decide to wake up.

So the word 'idiot' acquired the meaning of a stupid person acting with disdain and irresponsibility due to rooted laziness. Nowadays, we are all considered idiots by a law made by the few Alpha idiots**, because they are takers only.


'The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.'
Thomas Jefferson

Please forgive my poor knowledge of English language. I translated/transcribed the following study from a Hellenic text. It's written in an archaised form of the modern Hellenic language out of use over of half a century ago. So I rendered it as near as I could get. I kept the original intent of the story, substituting the initial wording with more recent expressions.


*About idiots - Part 1 of 3:

**The idiocy as opposite of intelligence is a particular characteristic of certain types and groups of people. They see power as a source for their selfish interests. The idiots as opposed to bright men usually seek dishonest, unfair or illegal means, to serve their interests to the detriment of the common good. But their problem is their lack of mental capacity. They can't distinguish between their long-term effects of the actions in society and in their own selves. The idiots are classified into two main large groups, completely opposite to each other, and yet three other variants. The first group exists at the lower social levels, the null idiots. Holders of the subordinate social positions and constantly exploited. Their focus is mainly on the second group, the Alpha idiots, the idiots holding important positions in society.

Based on the principle of the least effort, teaming up to face a stronger force in the face of a few or the one by organising themselves into groups,'cliques', This type of man has a mania, to belong to organisations of all kinds and as much as possible. This explains their lack of individuality. And implies a large convenience in developing a homogeneous stick-in-the-mud behaviour. Moreover, ever possessed by fear and panic cannot remain just a parasite. Result: automatic creation and influx of idiots in all kinds of organisations. While these organisations are self-interested, they keep the severity of their materialistic interests. But if it is spiritual, in time, it gets into full 'idiocracy'.

What comes next? Legions of idiots are irresistibly attracted to all kinds of gregarious, individualistic organisations. They are also fond of the animalistic theories. They love any kind of interference or planned economy. This causes an endless flow of idiots to the various think tanks, universities and government agencies. Which by means of a policy of force enshrined as a political and social regime. Freedom of thought (useful only to those who have thought), is for idiots especially obnoxious. And exerted by others is directed against them. Against their interests and against the occupation of authoritarian posts.



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About idiots - Part 2 of 3:

Based on the above it is easy to observe the irresistible attraction the idiots have for gregarious appearances. Social parties, visibility from the media, honours, titles, “Diploma” and any kind of decorations. And here arises a big question: Where is given the possibility for the idiotic herd to act effectively?

Firstly, most ordained idiots occupy subordinate positions. But they are completely toxic for the society as a living organism, because in practice the current society is made up from the lower ranks. Persons belonging to the higher levels depend on lower ones and in some cases this dependence takes forms of pure blackmail. For example, an employee can promote or bury a case to a service. Or cover a murder in a police station, where the lower faces of the hierarchy are united with him.

Secondly, the 'cliques' can encourage their members to higher levels. And show off themselves by hampering opposing actions, for deserving and competent contenders. Thus, the idiots multiply and the idiocracy prevails. The coming of a fool, a myriad arrives. For he is an idiot, if reached, will promote persons only inferior to himself.

The idiots are classified into three large subgroups or variants. The first variant includes idiots and incompetents who act one by one, let's call them solo idiots. They occupy positions where their failure is at least tolerable if not advantageous. Many times these people occupy positions in which serious working man would never condescend to deal with. But sometimes they can be placed at important parts of a government or even become presidents. Their offices are interspersed with distinctions, decorations, receptions. One specific skill is required: a complete lack of personality. This manifests itself with an absence of opinion on any matter, in fear of conflict and disagreement. Also, a taciturn dullness, which can be seen as a profundity or severity, but in fact is simply due only to the absolute lack of spirit. In short, this type of idiots are consequential and divided into two groups: Those who 'shop' their beliefs, the shoppers and those who are snobs.

The shoppers are acknowledged by their facial expression, which contains an animalistic craftiness. The intelligence of such a person involves the ability to conceal with great care his own cleverness. So he avoids talking and merely listens the words of others, he even comes with a nice smile. He avoids answering, because he is certainly not so 'idiot' to be exposed. Firstly, he considers every human a stalking enemy. A threatening one who grabs to expose, whatever any event escapes accidentally. That is why this idiot is very careful, all the time. He views everyone who expresses opinions as decidedly 'idiot'. He takes care to hide carefully his own intelligence behind a condescending smile. For intellectuals, and especially for those who are struggling, he nourishes boundless contempt. And treat them with cautious confidence, modest condescension and superiority.

The snobs constitute a real social scourge. They, for the most part, speak very complicated and at excessive pomposity for small things, obvious and self-evident. Which they present as great, obscure and important. Even embellish their actions with a pompous style of a protective attitude, which seeks to conquer the sympathy of the world. But, in fact is only intended to devalue others.

The second variant includes the so-called golden mediocrities let's call them the ducks. Through a rudimentary intelligence they decided to pretend they are idiots and act like a duck. They pretend, while living among complete idiots. If their rudimentary intelligence is revealed, their presence risks of becoming unprofitably challenging. This role is of course very exhausting. First of all, it's very difficult to hide any spiritual or psychic life. Or the inevitable reflections of any inferiority in its outer appearance. Thus, a rudimentary intelligence, without a special hypocritical talent, emits an aura of a man in self-defence or fight. And at worst an animal in panic. His conflicting feelings of repugnance and fear for their opposite. The determination to surpass him and the self rejection as a compromise policy. All these reveal his substantive inability to compete the “other”. Besides, the other is a genuine idiot, poor in spirit, flat feelings, and an acute instinct. This will annihilate any pretence and any real sincerity is perceived as hypocrisy.

The idiot has an over-developed instinctual suspicion. So, he is unable to recognise and comprehend syllogisms and calculations based on intelligence. For an idiot, the mechanism of the brainpower is strange and intellectually inaccessible. Opposed by a bright man's reasoning he feels unarmed and defenceless. Thus, a single defence exists, just like a wild animal or a primitive man: the instinctual suspicion. Suspicion's child is the cunningness. Both eventually operate contrary to the inherited intelligence. Despite the fact that evolutionary, intelligence is not something growing independently from instinct. But as an enrichment of instinct by logical means and exchange of deep connections with other people and nature.

Wickedness is the offensive side and the second stage of suspicion is wickedness in action. But when the action is primarily defensive, tends to create an animal intellectually puzzled. Who is instinctively panicky and extremely dangerous. The idiotic quality of his thoughts transforms the passive defence called suspicion into active defence and action against suspects ... Besides, inane reflections and conclusions come into practice as low level intellectual acts. Flattery, falsehood, intrigue, obscene offerings, spying, betrayals and everything else one could imagine. This positive and profitable utilisation of wickedness is called skilfulness. And here the amazing happens! The meanness and mental inferiority of flattery gives great power to the idiotic media. So much that idiots with this so-called skill, finally manage to achieve their purpose, being promoted and prevail.

This certainly raises a series of questions. What idiots' variant is the most dangerous for the society? One that commits everything mentioned above? Or another one that considers all these unscrupulous idiots as intelligent persons? In other words, who is more imbecile, the flatterer or the flattered? But anyway, the issue is certain. The so-called skilfulness is totally unrelated to the real intelligence. And an ingenious person has absolutely no need to use it. Since the intelligence undoubtedly gives him the opportunity to fight and prevail with his own value. The fact that the means of cunningness are more easily obtained is not disputed. The flattered who believed in the sincerity of the idiot cannot be disputed too. Is it possible to doubt that, if the flattered person is a simpleton, then an idiot will be necessarily the one who convinces him? Alas ... Nobody clever managed to converse with an idiot. No agreement has ever reached between heterogeneous brains. Two heads to agree should be equal or equally empty or full. Classical is the failure of the bright man who occasionally attempts to enter in the world of idiots. And alas ... When idiots become powerful rulers of high office, tragic is the fate of the unsuccessful intelligent persons. Tragic to the point of driving the unlucky ones to despair and sometimes to the end of their careers and even their lives. In contrast, not a single cloud ever disturbed the bliss of those homogeneous idiots. Those who consider the bright ones as indisputably idiots.




To be continued.
 

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We'll try to have these parts available as long as possible. It isn't cost-effective to produce limited quantities at 50-60% discounted prices. If we have enough demand to justify production, we'll offer them at their regular prices. Such is the case of the 18650 tubes for the v3 and v4. They will be ready in a few weeks or sooner and they will be available at the regular price.


Two points Perseas.
Wooo! More V4s??? :banana:
Tell me your not lying. I can finally get my mits on one and not ruin it this time ;)
Also, you seem to always sell out so I suppose it's not a problem, but can you find a way of me definitely getting one again. I know I'm not your concern atm but I'd preorder to get one. Let me know because I'm in two minds whether to send my V4 away.... Either to you, or a guy who says he can complete a very fine matte polish and blending without losing too much diameter.
Bad move I know, but I can't help myself.

2) You have valid points and good reasoning skills.
I'd imagine your quite perceptive and intelligent.

A metal tube is just a metal tube...
 

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Two points Perseas.
Wooo! More V4s??? :banana:
Tell me your not lying. I can finally get my mits on one and not ruin it this time ;)
Also, you seem to always sell out so I suppose it's not a problem, but can you find a way of me definitely getting one again. I know I'm not your concern atm but I'd preorder to get one. Let me know because I'm in two minds whether to send my V4 away.... Either to you, or a guy who says he can complete a very fine matte polish and blending without losing too much diameter.
Bad move I know, but I can't help myself.

2) You have valid points and good reasoning skills.
I'd imagine your quite perceptive and intelligent.

A metal tube is just that... ;)

We consider pre-orders for the GP PAPS v4 18650 mod to determine the quantities, no worries! In any case, I will communicate about our moves.
I am somewhat aware of my own idiocy too, but I fail to be serious about it :)
 
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*About idiots - Part 3 of 3:

The third variant is an advanced form of the prior. This includes the idiots-crooks, even accompanied by another idiotic subgroup, the fans of the crooks. The former do not hesitate to proclaim with elegance under a so-called utilitarianism, that honesty is stupidity. A fool often is resorting to the skilfulness due to a poor mentality. The same poverty and lack of will shall resort him to fraud. As you know, fraud is either presenting false things as true, either the simple concealment of the truth. From such a definition follows the prevailing view of ordinary people. That fraud is achieved on one hand due to the intelligence of the crook. On the other hand, because of the credulity of the victim.

But everyone, even a idiot, can present false things as real. Fraud is mentally the easiest way, which is why the deprived intelligence resorts to it. Instead the honest means are more arduous, because they need mental energy and actual individual value. Besides, among the fans of the fraudsters, there is a widespread perception that a crook not only is not an idiot, but he is certainly intelligent. This perception comes from the "theory" of idiots on credulity. It is true that a mere idiot would be able to cheat a Kant or a Beethoven.

Because in credulity, people considered in advance as honest and thus intelligent. It is the largest evident of spiritual development and culture. But idiots are addicted to "think" not with the mental mechanism, which moreover do not have, but with coarse and only external impressions. They don't investigate causal relationships, but they get impressed by the single fact of a successful fraud. Such event shows summarily on the one hand, the stupidity of the victim, on the other hand, the intelligence of crooks.

We immediately can see that the production of idiots is not a matter of a specific social class. The nature gave to a certain social class the coveted privilege. No social class has lost their special idiots and their social role. Stupidity has no such home. Psychological differences create varieties and variations among idiots from different social classes. The respective upper class seems to be richly endowed with the most entertaining of these types.



The idiot of the highest order has a physical atrophy in his volition. Without any spirituality of his own, he takes full account of the endless series of "must" and the prohibitions imposed by the respectable family. Thus, from people within his class he gains the title of "good child". While the objective dialect might be called by grace "decorous" or "decent imbecile."

Conversely, a child of poor people is named in a similar case, literally and without grace, simple and very popular and quite unequivocally: "jerk". And within the lower social class things are for the idiot much more difficult. An upper class fool enjoys the student's age throughout the educational treatment and care. Thus, he remains unabated. But that in elder age increases the ridiculous confidence. Giving him the possibility to reach undisturbed high social positions and individual existence. This is inappropriate and it is known in the society.

A fool-child from lower classes is manipulated very hard, both from his parents and from his teachers and classmates at school. And this hardness can guide him to a complete psychological burnout. Along with the devaluation, the jeering, pranks, insults and violence. After all this, of course, the imbecile of the lower classes are too difficult to climb the social ladder. That's why, compared to the confident and arrogant idiot from senior classes, he is much less ridiculous, more sympathetic, humble, largely unknown and certainly harmless. Whatever is the case, yet, the intellectual background of all social classes is one and single.

After all this scrutiny, a major issue that arises is the relationship between the idiot and the cunning or the impostor. In other words, the relationship between honesty and stupidity or immorality and intelligence. Most ordinary people consider cheats and crooks possibly unethical. But they classify them as indisputably intelligent. Most ordinary people distinguish immorality from stupidity and ethos from intelligence.

It happens quite the opposite: the deft and the deceiver are mere subdivisions of idiots. And here's how: A worthy man doesn't need the skill and deception to promote and prevail. A man with real value does not need to be deft or deceiver. The wickedness is a physical property of the idiot. It develops as the only possible defence permitted to grow by the natural atrophy of his mental mechanism. This finding proves that only a mentally disabled man needs the skill and deception to promote and prevail. An absolute consistency of mental invalidity is not only the gregarious tendency or promoting himself and his flock. But a lack of contrary opinion, an avoidance of conflict, an absence from battles and actions. Moreover, his resources come from flattery and favours, treachery and fraud. Hence the unshakable dogma: immorality is the exclusive prerogative of idiots! Cheers!

The IDIOCRACY movie:

 

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*About idiots - Part 3 of 3:

The movie Idiocracy was based on a short story "The Marching ......" by a man named Kornbluth. He wrote it in the 1940's. I ran across it more than 20 years ago and have re-read it many times. It made a huge impact on me the first time I read it, and even a larger one as I watch the things he described come to pass.

It's a sad, sad world these days but there is no alternative other than to muddle on making the best of things.

Edit: I see that the filter will not allow the actual name of the story. The third word is what Bugs Bunny was trying to say when he'd shout "maroons!"
 
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The movie Idiocracy was based on a short story "The Marching ......" by a man named Kornbluth. He wrote it in the 1940's. I ran across it more than 20 years ago and have re-read it many times. It made a huge impact on me the first time I read it, and even a larger one as I watch the things he described come to pass.

It's a sad, sad world these days but there is no alternative other than to muddle on making the best of things.

Edit: I see that the filter will not allow the actual name of the story. The third word is what Bugs Bunny was trying to say when he'd shout "maroons!"

It's one of my favourite books and movies too. Funny thing! The filtering even happens with the link of the story!

The Marching Μ#r#ns by C. M. Kornbluth
http://mysite.du.edu/~treddell/3780/Kornbluth_The-Marching-.......pdf

However I can type 'electrolytes' and 'Brawndo῾, It's got what plants crave!' as many times as I like! It's already here!

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WHAT? It cant be true.... I just went to the site to look about getting a PAPs V4, saw the prices and said WHAT and now I see this?

Im in shock..... I dont know what to say......Im really feeling so bad....

Thank you, but please don't feel bad. As Robert F. Kennedy said:

'Like it or not, we live in interesting times. They are times of danger and uncertainty; but they are also the most creative of any time in the history of mankind.'
 

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Thank you, the feelings are mutual, much love from Athens! We had a really good time all these years! As Cucco said it was a blast :)

On another note, the Tobacco Products Directive (2014/40/EU) aims to improve the functioning of the internal market for tobacco and related products in the following manner:

 

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But..... still.....I love VapourArt, the family, You and everything....

I like anavidfan posts and this one is no different. I'm afraid I can't share the emotion he/she? (sorry) has because I'm so late to your party.
I am nowhere near your biggest customer (wish I could be), but I'm happy I've had the opportunity to snag 3 V4s to date.
Undoubtedly the best I've used, paired with my kfun/phenomenon has provided the perfect vape for me (so far).
Very reasonably priced and the best customer service.
So Thankyou very much Perseas and team.

Vaping has helped me get through some very hard times indeed. Your mod is the icing on that cake.
So thank you :)

I really hope I am given the chance to make this penultimate piece the absolute best with a cherry on that icing, in the form of a heron V3 (between you and I, I'm not keen on cherries).
Thanks very much, and cheers :party:

Ps. I really hope you bring out another set of 18650 V4s, so much...
 
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I set the alarm for 6am local time to make sure I got a Paps V4. GP are my favourite mods of all time. The GPin is nothing short of brilliant. Once I had an X, an X Lux, and a Lux 2.5, I didn't really need any more -they are still going strong after 3 years and more. But the V4 looks so gorgeous, how could I resist?

Much love to the GP family from Australia. I've been privileged :wub:
 

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I missed the last sale of GP treasures..... :( I had no idea this would be the last so did not think too much about it. I checked the site earlier today (PT) and saw the prices, got happy, then saw the sold outs, and saw the vapor day and could not understand why everything sold out....

Oh, well I have my other PAPs treasures and memories...

thank you all for adding to my life :)
 
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