GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

[yankeebobo]

 

[newyork13]

Yes. And better question is how many of us found it? Nice, it was very nice. Want the URL?

Here is the question of the day..........

How many of us went to look for the thread?

 

[newyork13]

I'm still learning about my Heron, and you've reminded me of a question I've had, but forgot to ask. If I feel a need for more fluff, can I add a short bit onto the strip I have it there and even it out, or do I need to have a continuous piece in the bell?

BTW... there is a Tips and Tricks thread that has a lot of useful, "stickied" information.

Since there are some recent fluff discussions I'd like to add some personal observations.

I, too, started my Spheroid and Heron builds with the help of the Internet (and this forum as well). I think starting with (fluff v2) dimensions of 20mm x 40mm for the Spheroid and 17mm x 60mm for the Heron makes for a pretty good base point. Now, I primarily use 50/50 eliquids and those starting dimensions work great with any wick I've used; the fluff isn't too tightly packed as to reduce capacity and it isn't too loose to not hold onto the eliquid and flood the atty.

However, we all know that all liquids aren't the same and I recently got a taste (pun intended) of that recently when all of a sudden my Heron would flood even though I used the same eliquid, and build, for months before.

Unfortunately, it took me awhile to track it down to the fact that my eliquid was thinner - due to added flavor shots which were, presumably, PG-based. An extra 10mm of fluff in the Heron tank and, voila, fixed!

...

Thinner liquids (more PG) need more fluff and more viscous liquids need less fluff. A good general rule of thumb, for me, is to adjust fluff length in 5mm increments for the Spheroid and 10mm increments for the Heron. I use 20mm x 35mm (Spheroid) and 17mm x 50mm (Heron) for thicker (max vg) liquids and 20mm x 45mm (Spheroid) and 17mm x 70mm (Heron) for my thinner liquids ... like the 50/50 liquids that have extra flavor "shots" that I'm guessing to be PG-based.

I'm sure I could tweak it by a few millimeters, each way for each juice, but this generally seems to hold for me.

 

[Idaholandho]

Sorry, I could not help it:

*Reported

 

[Idaholandho]

@Ballfrobrobro, If and when I wear pants after the shti I've been through, I'll be that guy. Yep, commando.
If medical is going to flip and strip me, it's go time. Surprise, Merry Christmas and grab your smart phones as this ones going viral baby!

Now back to the Heron. Fluff, that is all.

 

[mssam]

Yeah, just 2 cent thrown in...the cc seems to cause the liquid to flow and all, but I seem to get more flavor with Japanese cotton in the heron. I know different strokes for different fokes, just my 2 cent. I love the cc in certain devices like the origen, but interestingly with cc in the heron, it will wick ok if I were wick it, then carry it around with me and vape throughout the day or something, but usually my X's/herons stay in the home and my v3's go on the road with me. Occasionally, i get dry hits using cc with the X/heron. Don't know why, maybe sitting up they dry out a little and don't absorb as well idk. What I do know is that Japanese cotton or shiseido is not to be under estimated in the heron...mucho flavor!

 

[Zbeast08]

I wasn't sure where to ask this question or ask for advice but I figured that my friends here would guide me in the right direction! There has been a couple times that I ran the battery down very low like down to "almost dead". However, when I put the batteries on the charger, it takes a couple minutes to register and then they recharge. I know that I shouldn't let the batteries run down that low but what are the consequences......damaged batteries, damaged mod, etc.?? I am beginning to notice a decline in vapor and when I throw them on the charger, they are around 3.6v. But....those few times that I have gone well below that, have I put myself in danger or just possibly damaged my hardware? Please advise to ease my mind!!


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[darksparkle13]

Oh holy crap.

Ok. Time for Yankee Summary:

No fluff is like going with no underpants. Definitely use fluff. Or don't go out in public or you may look like you did forget the underpants.

Still on fluff: GP fluff kicks .... Sure you could try the aquarium fluff, just don't be surprised if you find other aquatics in there.

Paps X: best choice hands down. I love my Paps but the X is something in a class its own.

Holiday: Perseas doing a good job keeping up even on holiday.

IdaWho: still seen walking the dog at 2am ....NAKED.

Strippers: I've had it with the stripper topic. I just spent the last 20 minutes trying to find out who in their right mind would open a thread up for this topic. Jokes on me. NO THREAD. So guess what, I DID open a stripper thread. It can be found here:
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/...F-7B1C-404E-8ED9-623D640BF6FF_zpsdbjt4okr.jpg
Have a tomato, a vape, a drink and smile everyone. You're in GP land where the only drama is trying to figure out why some of us are GVCaholics.

And ofcourse I had to click the link,

 

[mssam]

I wasn't sure where to ask this question or ask for advice but I figured that my friends here would guide me in the right direction! There has been a couple times that I ran the battery down very low like down to "almost dead". However, when I put the batteries on the charger, it takes a couple minutes to register and then they recharge. I know that I shouldn't let the batteries run down that low but what are the consequences......damaged batteries, damaged mod, etc.?? I am beginning to notice a decline in vapor and when I throw them on the charger, they are around 3.6v. But....those few times that I have gone well below that, have I put myself in danger or just possibly damaged my hardware? Please advise to ease my mind!!


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in my experience you havent put yourself in danger of damaged hardware. if theyre quality batteries, you shouldnt have anything to worry about, even if you run them really low. What I'm wondering is what type of charger you are using. I run my batteries really low sometimes, maybe below 3.0v on a 18490 lol, but theyre good quality batteries, i.e. real aw imr, real vtc, etc. Plus, i use an efest LUC V4 charger. This charger can be set for .5 amps/trickle charge to recondition batteries. That pila charger is crap. If you have that, throw it away or donate it to a noob. You need a real charger to see whats going on with those batteries....if you're noticing a decline in vapor/coil heat up, then maybe you need some new batteries. RTD is the main place to go for batts....

 

[Idaholandho]

I wasn't sure where to ask this question or ask for advice but I figured that my friends here would guide me in the right direction! There has been a couple times that I ran the battery down very low like down to "almost dead". However, when I put the batteries on the charger, it takes a couple minutes to register and then they recharge. I know that I shouldn't let the batteries run down that low but what are the consequences......damaged batteries, damaged mod, etc.?? I am beginning to notice a decline in vapor and when I throw them on the charger, they are around 3.6v. But....those few times that I have gone well below that, have I put myself in danger or just possibly damaged my hardware? Please advise to ease my mind!!


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It is not good for the battery itself to over drain them and will shorten the lifespan of our batteries. Sounds like a multi meter is in your immediate future my man.
Different builds(loads) will affect the life and performance of your batteries. People talk about cycles and it is a common discussion amongst rookies as far as I'm concerned. One may get 1/2 the life of an AW IMR than I because they are consistently sub ohming. It is important to note that when comparing cycles or lifespan of batteries that the same brand is represented. There is no comparing an AW IMR to an efest in my half baked world.
I can tell you that I spend the money where it matters to me, GP and solid.batteries.
It's unfair for me to tell you to shtican your batteries without testing them.
You will find less vapor and a faster than normal discharge both to be signs of a declining battery.
It is a good practice to meter batteries on and off the charger.

Edit, Learn all you can about batteries and ohms law and use the information to make smart build and battery decisions.

 

[Zbeast08]

in my experience you havent put yourself in danger of damaged hardware. if theyre quality batteries, you shouldnt have anything to worry about, even if you run them really low. What I'm wondering is what type of charger you are using. I run my batteries really low sometimes, maybe below 3.0v on a 18490 lol, but theyre good quality batteries, i.e. real aw imr, real vtc, etc. Plus, i use an efest LUC V4 charger. This charger can be set for .5 amps/trickle charge to recondition batteries. That pila charger is crap. If you have that, throw it away or donate it to a noob. You need a real charger to see whats going on with those batteries....if you're noticing a decline in vapor/coil heat up, then maybe you need some new batteries. RTD is the main place to go for batts....

I have an xtar vp1 charger that is digital with the .25, .50 and 1.0 amp settings. I primarily use AW batteries, couple of Sony vtc5's and all are purchased from RTD! Thank you for the advise and easing my mind as well!! Any other comments or differing opinions welcomed!


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[cliffy15]

I'm still learning about my Heron, and you've reminded me of a question I've had, but forgot to ask. If I feel a need for more fluff, can I add a short bit onto the strip I have it there and even it out, or do I need to have a continuous piece in the bell?

Honestly I have no idea! I've always had continuous pieces. My guess is that it would work as long as there were no gaps, when installed, no density differences between the two ...

... umm, try it?

 

[anavidfan]

Stripper in action......

 

[VapinBill]

^^^ I did not click on the link. I did not click on the link ^^^

 

[Zbeast08]

It is not good for the battery itself to over drain them. Sounds like a multi meter is in your immediate future my man.
Different builds(loads) will affect the life of your batteries. People talk about cycles and it is a common discussion amongst rookies as far as I'm concerned. One may get 1/2 the life of an AW IMR than I because they are consistently sub ohming. It is important to note that when comparing cycles or lifespan of batteries that the same brand is represented. There is no comparing an AW IMR to an efest in my half baked world.
I can tell you that I spend the money where it matters to me, GP and solid.batteries.
It's unfair for me to tell you to shtican your batteries without testing them.
You will find less vapor and a faster than normal discharge both to be signs of a declining battery.
It is a good practice to meter batteries on and off the charger.

Thanks for the comments! I have a couple multimeters but just don't carry them around with me. My charger tells me the voltage when I place them in the charger but a couple of times when I get home and place them in the charger, they were low on voltage!! Most of all my batteries come from RTD and are primarily AW IMR's and I don't do any coils below 1.2ohms ATM. I also have a rotation of 350,500 and 650's with dates on each battery, my OCD kicking in!! I have checked voltage with my provari and a multimeter to be sure my charger is accurately reporting battery voltage, so far so good there!! I wasn't concerned with battery life or cycles as much as I was concerned with letting my voltage drop to low before recharging!! I really appreciate the help!!


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[Idaholandho]

I'm still learning about my Heron, and you've reminded me of a question I've had, but forgot to ask. If I feel a need for more fluff, can I add a short bit onto the strip I have it there and even it out, or do I need to have a continuous piece in the bell?

Hey Buddy! I've added to many times when needed. Just make sure not to over pack I save my odds and ends and have evenly packed a Spheroid or two without a continuous piece. Again, make sure the fluff is even and consistently even.

 

[Idaholandho]

Thanks for the comments! I have a couple multimeters but just don't carry them around with me. My charger tells me the voltage when I place them in the charger but a couple of times when I get home and place them in the charger, they were low on voltage!! Most of all my batteries come from RTD and are primarily AW IMR's and I don't do any coils below 1.2ohms ATM. I also have a rotation of 350,500 and 650's with dates on each battery, my OCD kicking in!! I have checked voltage with my provari and a multimeter to be sure my charger is accurately reporting battery voltage, so far so good there!! I wasn't concerned with battery life or cycles as much as I was concerned with letting my voltage drop to low before recharging!! I really appreciate the help!!


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IMR's should not be discharged past 3.2v

 

[mssam]

Thanks for the comments! I have a couple multimeters but just don't carry them around with me. My charger tells me the voltage when I place them in the charger but a couple of times when I get home and place them in the charger, they were low on voltage!! Most of all my batteries come from RTD and are primarily AW IMR's and I don't do any coils below 1.2ohms ATM. I also have a rotation of 350,500 and 650's with dates on each battery, my OCD kicking in!! I have checked voltage with my provari and a multimeter to be sure my charger is accurately reporting battery voltage, so far so good there!! I wasn't concerned with battery life or cycles as much as I was concerned with letting my voltage drop to low before recharging!! I really appreciate the help!!


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that charger you have is one of the best, so youre probably getting good readings. You probably need some different batteries Dont' know how long youve had them, but... sometimes, i run my heron with 26 gauge 6/7 wrap which is fine on an aw imr 18650, then other times its not. weird. I think its not when the batt gets low. i have used and tried vtc5's, LG's, blah, blah, but tbh, those little dinky coils arent pulling enough current to warrant those batteries. a single dinky little 1.3 or otherwise coil doesnt need a vtc5. aw imr amps are enough. I'll have to check my references, but those aw imr's at that resistance should be putting out about 9-10amps of current which is enough. "You feeling lucky punk?" lol couldn't resist. One of those ol' Clint Eastwood, or should i should i say Dirty Harry flicks i recently watched lol, anyway it's not the hardware imo and you have nothing to worry about on that front, something battery related probably...

 

[btobw]

Hi folks. The home for my brand new spheroid arrived today. I needed to colour my world a bit

Happy holidays, Perseas ... though you seem to be around a lot for someone who's supposed to be on holidays

 

[mssam]

you have to ask yourself this question: did he fire 5 shots or 6?...ketchup on a hotdog lol...all that talk about Clint a few post back made me watch some of those flicks.excuse me for the humor, but Clint and those movies were great!!!!