GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

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Not the best picture since my phone had a hard time focusing in low light but here's the juice leaking out into my lap and car seat after about 15 minutes of vaping in traffic. I even had it angled slightly upside-down while I was driving.

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My build is pretty standard ... here's the wick/coil...

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... and the fluff. when this happened I wasn't over-filled. I'd guess about half liquid gone ...

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If no one sees anything wrong I guess I'm going to have to go with even more fluff although...I think I already have a lot ..

edit: I'm wondering if my fluff is touching the deck ring and if I should be avoiding that. I suppose I could try packing it further up into the bell.
 
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What size fluff are you all finding works for you with what type (pg/vg ratio) liquid?

I'm a little stumped as to why my Heron v2 works perfectly until I put in it my pocket and walk around with it (even upside-down). That's when a lot of liquid comes out of the air control. It doesn't flood at all when standing up on my table.

I'm using 50/50 liquid with 16mm x 140mm of fluff and I'm hesitant to use more as it feels a bit dense and I'm thinking I probably should go for more.

I'm using a 2.4mm coil with both wick tails pointed up (standard kgd wick). The coil is 2mm above the deck hole.

note: oh ... and it's been about 80°F here during most of my tests.

I think the cotton and the fluff need to be a bit more dense. Your build seems fine to me.
 

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... and does anyone have a fluff build tutorial for the Heron v2?

edit: only because I have fluff of ~12mm x 160mm (50/50 eliquid) and my setup is still not pocket friendly. It seems the movement of walking makes the liquid flood but I think that I have way too much fluff as it is ...
 
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Hey all. I'm having huge issues with the heron v2. Aside from the device cutting me every time it's taken apart and not mounted to a device and the fact it never sits flush as designed the worst part is a terrible taste every vape. I've cleaned and cleaned and cleaned this including now what must be a total of an hour of ultrasonic time. inevitably as soon as the build heats up a bit the horrible taste of metal is there.

Someone once said to me they had this kind of issue and ultimately and strangely the only thing that made it go away was swapping o rings. For me what's strange is that the device doesn't typically stink of metal. Etc.

Per GP SUGGESTION I'll try a milk soak and another rinse and sonic. I guess I'll use all the spare o rings and place these in a bag.

I have to say considering how great the piccoloid v2 is I'm really disappointed wih the the fact the HnP doesn't fit very well seamlessly. The tank is so sharp it is actually a requirement to use a cloth to dissemble and the flavor is so tainted. About the only good thing is the switch on the paps v4.

I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice. I've tried locating the coil father out maybe 1.5mm from the screws and up to 2mm off the deck. I also find the chimney design. To be extremely poor. Especially compared to the spheroid and for thick eliquid. It's a fidgety sharp heavy atomizer right now that just isn't working.

GP of course has offered to take the device in and examine what may be the issue. Their support has been very good and I'm a big fan of the brand. I can't however drive for at least six more weeks and would love to be able to figure this out if possible

Sorry to appear or of nowhere with bad news and complaining.

If it helps the piccoloid is tied for my favorite device ever. It's fantastic and well built. Seamless works. Taste is great. I love it. That probably makes dealing with HnP issues even harder.

Thanks for the help! I'm sure this is either a strange contaminant issue. A build issue. Or something completely one off. GP seems to have very good quality control. Hopefully I am missing something. After the milk bath tonight or tomorrow I'll put a build in and provide images. I'm a relatively experienced vapor. I build everything almost. Build was 7 wraps of 28 gauge around a 2.5mm coil master v3 winder and wicked wih rayon. Cotton bacon. And koh gen do for testing. The flavor contamination happens after the heat crosses a certain line. Maybe a second and a half in and hen subsequently until allowed to cool. Go says all their raw materials are certified so they don't believe some poor metal could have made it into production.

I've also tried five liquids in the tank lest it be a strange device specific flavor issue.

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Hey all. I'm having huge issues with the heron v2. Aside from the device cutting me every time it's taken apart and not mounted to a device and the fact it never sits flush as designed the worst part is a terrible taste every vape. I've cleaned and cleaned and cleaned this including now what must be a total of an hour of ultrasonic time. inevitably as soon as the build heats up a bit the horrible taste of metal is there.

Someone once said to me they had this kind of issue and ultimately and strangely the only thing that made it go away was swapping o rings. For me what's strange is that the device doesn't typically stink of metal. Etc.

Per GP SUGGESTION I'll try a milk soak and another rinse and sonic. I guess I'll use all the spare o rings and place these in a bag.

I have to say considering how great the piccoloid v2 is I'm really disappointed wih the the fact the HnP doesn't fit very well seamlessly. The tank is so sharp it is actually a requirement to use a cloth to dissemble and the flavor is so tainted. About the only good thing is the switch on the paps v4.

I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice. I've tried locating the coil father out maybe 1.5mm from the screws and up to 2mm off the deck. I also find the chimney design. To be extremely poor. Especially compared to the spheroid and for thick eliquid. It's a fidgety sharp heavy atomizer right now that just isn't working.

GP of course has offered to take the device in and examine what may be the issue. Their support has been very good and I'm a big fan of the brand. I can't however drive for at least six more weeks and would love to be able to figure this out if possible

Sorry to appear or of nowhere with bad news and complaining.

If it helps the piccoloid is tied for my favorite device ever. It's fantastic and well built. Seamless works. Taste is great. I love it. That probably makes dealing with HnP issues even harder.

Thanks for the help! I'm sure this is either a strange contaminant issue. A build issue. Or something completely one off. GP seems to have very good quality control. Hopefully I am missing something. After the milk bath tonight or tomorrow I'll put a build in and provide images. I'm a relatively experienced vapor. I build everything almost. Build was 7 wraps of 28 gauge around a 2.5mm coil master v3 winder and wicked wih rayon. Cotton bacon. And koh gen do for testing. The flavor contamination happens after the heat crosses a certain line. Maybe a second and a half in and hen subsequently until allowed to cool. Go says all their raw materials are certified so they don't believe some poor metal could have made it into production.

I've also tried five liquids in the tank lest it be a strange device specific flavor issue.

Cheers!
I think you should take the offer and have the GP team look at it.

It sounds like I'm running almost that exact build 2.4mm 6-wrap 28ga coil and, aside from trying to figure out why it floods when in pocket, my Heron performs well.

I built it for the first time straight from the box with no taste issues.

As for the cutting... How/when does it cut you? I'd advise not holding any of the threads while disassembling.

As for gaps... where are the gaps and are you using it with the hybrid gpin or are you using the 510 connector? check to make sure the gpin is firmly seated and the deck ring as well (there's an o-ring there that could be getting caught). What kind of battery are you using?

Taste-wise, are you running a fluffless build or using fluff? Burning taste sounds like dry hits... You can test it without top cap and even without fluff if you soak the wick and replace the body/bell assembly (kind of like a dripper) just to rule or other things - before you use the top cap or fluff...

edit: oh, and is the mod/atty getting hot when you fire? maybe you're shorting somewhere. If you have a multimeter, check the resistance of your build both at the posts as well as the lower connection
 
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Thanks

I'd love to have hem look at it and probably will how we I have a long time before I can send it in so I figure I may as well ask here

Fluffless build. It cuts when trying to remove the chimney if not mounted. The afc ring cut me once. Threads cut me once and the the bottom by the gpin (which I use) I have a couple of 18500 batteries from efest button top. The gpin is in all the way as far as I can see (I'm 99.9% on this) as it is a pain to get in and out I made sure to get it in all the way with the black disk basically even or a bit inside.
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Thanks

I'd love to have hem look at it and probably will how we I have a long time before I can send it in so I figure I may as well ask here

Fluffless build. It cuts when trying to remove the chimney if not mounted. The afc ring cut me once. Threads cut me once and the the bottom by the gpin (which I use) I have a couple of 18500 batteries from efest button top. The gpin is in all the way as far as I can see (I'm 99.9% on this) as it is a pain to get in and out I made sure to get it in all the way with the black disk basically even or a bit inside.
Thanks for
Your time and help !
hmm... let's take it one at a time.

Gaps: I think you're okay but I'm still not sure where your gaps are. here's a picture of my gpin/insulator when installed. I don't think you're having a problem there.

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Here's what it looks like when assembled. I have a tiny gap between the Heron deck and the Heron tube but it doesn't affect performance and it's just the way it sits on the o-ring. (looks dirty...I'm still fighting unknown flooding issues)

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Make sure your deck ring is seated all the way downotherwise you'll get a gap between the deck and Heron tube. There's an o-ring in between the deck and deck ring that could be getting in the way.

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I don't use a fluffless build but make sure your chamber/top cap is completely seated or you can, again, get a gap between deck and Heron tube.
 

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As for cutting:

I've used a fingernail to pry the chamber/top cap off when I tried the fluffless build with great results.

When removing the AFC ring, don't twist it. You can wiggle it off by moving one side down, then the other, until it is disengaged from the o-ring.

When removing the Heron tube from the deck ring (such as when refilling) I always keep my Heron mounted to my paps... therefore I never have to touch the threads as they can be sharp.

It may benefit you to put some eliquid on your o-rings for a bit of lubrication. they can be tough to disengage when completely dry.
 
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