GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid

[Hrathor]

I am one that has much success with a 2.5-2.75 x .75 (inches) piece. I wrap it with little tension and trim the width 1-2mm below the bell. Before I fill with my 18 ga syringe I poke the fluff with it to make sure it passes without resistance. I then am able to put 3-3.5 ml of 50/50 or 25/75 in. The first refill will come early as the fluff settles and breaks in.
My Bro Q uses less fluff and it works for him. You will get it to the science that works for you.
Are you micro coiling or standard coil? I have pics in my gallery that may help.
Keep us posted!

I am still having no luck with my Spheroid. It was finally good the last build I did and now I keep getting dry hits, but when I pull the tube off the wick is very saturated. I'm also loosing some liquid through the pin but the insulator is intact. A 4/3 wrap of 30g is reading 1.4 ohm (seems way too high?), normal coil around 1.5 mm Ekowool loop. On my Provari, I can dial it down to around 3.2 and it works fine, but anything higher or on a mech and it's like breathing inside an oven. I'm not seeing any shorts or hot spots. Maybe I need to take it apart at the base? I'm not saying I'm a master rba guy, but this tiny titan is kicking my .... My v3 kit is due on Monday, so maybe I'll just let it set until then, and then see what I see in the guts.

 

[rodsky77]

I am still having no luck with my Spheroid. It was finally good the last build I did and now I keep getting dry hits, but when I pull the tube off the wick is very saturated. I'm also loosing some liquid through the pin but the insulator is intact. A 4/3 wrap of 30g is reading 1.4 ohm (seems way too high?), normal coil around 1.5 mm Ekowool loop. On my Provari, I can dial it down to around 3.2 and it works fine, but anything higher or on a mech and it's like breathing inside an oven. I'm not seeing any shorts or hot spots. Maybe I need to take it apart at the base? I'm not saying I'm a master rba guy, but this tiny titan is kicking my .... My v3 kit is due on Monday, so maybe I'll just let it set until then, and then see what I see in the guts.

Sounds like you are choking your wick - at lower voltage enough juice can get to the coil in time in order to produce a decent vape without a dry hit, when you turn up the power, the coil burns hotter, vaporizes juice faster, and not enough of it is getting to the coil in time, and you get dry hits. Did you use a paper clip inserted into the coil with the wick when you were building it? After you build the coil and take out the clip, the coil is more loose around the wick, or just try making the coils not so tight.

 

[Hrathor]

Sounds like you are choking your wick - at lower voltage enough juice can get to the coil in time in order to produce a decent vape without a dry hit, when you turn up the power, the coil burns hotter, vaporizes juice faster, and not enough of it is getting to the coil in time, and you get dry hits. Did you use a paper clip inserted into the coil with the wick when you were building it - after you build the coil and take out the clip, the coil is more loose around the wick.

Yea, I used a paperclip, it's definitely not choked from the coil. But it's possible it's burning off to fast to keep up, but still getting wet enough to look OK by the time I pull the tube off. Maybe it is the amount of filler I have, but I'm already out of it. Went through all the filler that came with the Spheroid AND all my Heron Filler. Luckily I got the Heron on the first attempt, haha. I'll go get some more filler later and try experimenting with that. Well, at any rate it give my Provari a better job than an expensive short/ohm checker.

 

[rodsky77]

Yea, I used a paperclip, it's definitely not choked from the coil. But it's possible it's burning off to fast to keep up, but still getting wet enough to look OK by the time I pull the tube off. Maybe it is the amount of filler I have, but I'm already out of it. Went through all the filler that came with the Spheroid AND all my Heron Filler. Luckily I got the Heron on the first attempt, haha. I'll go get some more filler later and try experimenting with that. Well, at any rate it give my Provari a better job than an expensive short/ohm checker.

very strange... have you tried using a different wick? Silica, cotton ball? Also, how much fluff did you cut and for what PG/VG ratio? you can also get some Jewel Aquarium pads (in pretty much any pet store) as backup filler - they don't wick as well as fluff, but they will do when you don't have any fluff.

Edit: you need less filler to wick faster - so, you may just need to cut off some, then you really don't need more

 

[rodsky77]

double post

 

[Hrathor]

very strange... have you tried using a different wick? Silica, cotton ball? Also, how much fluff did you cut and for what PG/VG ratio? you can also get some Jewel Aquarium pads (in pretty much any pet store) as backup filler - they don't wick as well as fluff, but they will do when you don't have any fluff.

Edit: you need less filler to wick faster - so, you may just need to cut off some, then you really don't need more

All over the board, haha. I just went over to 1.5 mm Ekowool and trimmed down from 2.5 to 1.5 length of filler. I've been using 100% VG for everything.
I think I am going to take the base apart. I am getting a lot of juice running out of the 510 and it seems way too thick to be condensation. And way too much for it to be hitting dry...

 

[perseas]

All over the board, haha. I just went over to 1.5 mm Ekowool and trimmed down from 2.5 to 1.5 length of filler. I've been using 100% VG for everything.
I think I am going to take the base apart. I am getting a lot of juice running out of the 510 and it seems way too thick to be condensation. And way too much for it to be hitting dry...

If the base has trapped liquid inside, eventually the air flow will diminish and dry hits will follow. Too much wick or coil too close to the air hole do the same. Too thick or too thin filler, gives bad wicking, resulting in dry hits as well.

 

[Hrathor]

If the base has trapped liquid inside, eventually the air flow will diminish and dry hits will follow. Too much wick or coil too close to the air hole do the same. Too thick or too thin filler, gives bad wicking, resulting in dry hits as well.

Well, I rebuilt it AGAIN, b/c my leads were too short to get it farther off the deck. I figured out a much easier way to tie it down too. So not only did I get it done in record time, but it seems to be perfect now. It comes in at 1.2 ohm and it's sitting a lot taller. I just took enough pulls to feel like I ran a marathon and no dry hits yet. Thanks rodsky77 and perseas.
And thanks to the tutorials I obviously slept through from Quorax and Idaho!

 

[rodsky77]

Well, I rebuilt it AGAIN, b/c my leads were too short to get it farther off the deck. I figured out a much easier way to tie it down too. So not only did I get it done in record time, but it seems to be perfect now. It comes in at 1.2 ohm and it's sitting a lot taller. I just took enough pulls to feel like I ran a marathon and no dry hits yet. Thanks rodsky77 and perseas.
And thanks to the tutorials I obviously slept through from Quorax and Idaho!

Glad to hear you are enjoying your Spheroid now

 

[ScandaLeX]

I don't know where to begin. I was bored so decided to put in a new coil. Each build I've done tonight (3) works on the multimeter showing between 0.09 - 1.2Ω's but when I put the Spheroid on my Paps the only thing cooking & getting super hot is the battery; the Spheroid itself is not firing.

I haven't done anything different in terms of my builds since I've been using it.

I put other atty's on the Paps & they're all working correctly.

 

[Idaholandho]

I don't know where to begin. I was bored so decided to put in a new coil. Each build I've done tonight (3) works on the multimeter showing between 0.09 - 1.2Ω's but when I put the Spheroid on my Paps the only thing cooking & getting super hot is the battery; the Spheroid itself is not firing.

I haven't done anything different in terms of my builds since I've been using it.

I put other atty's on the Paps & they're all working correctly.

Chances are that the insulator may have gone south. Have you split the base? DO you have a GP Fork? If not a pair of needle nose in the 2 holes and the base is reverse threaded.
Can you take a quick pic of the 510 connection to mod and the coil please.
I also recommend that you pm Perseas. If it is an insulator issue or a simple part fix, please let me know after talking with P. I have many new parts for the Spheroid to include posts, insulators, etc..

 

[ScandaLeX]

Chances are that the insulator may have gone south. Have you split the base? DO you have a GP Fork? If not a pair of needle nose in the 2 holes and the base is reverse threaded.
Can you take a quick pic of the 510 connection to mod and the coil please.
I also recommend that you pm Perseas. If it is an insulator issue or a simple part fix, please let me know after talking with P. I have many new parts for the Spheroid to include posts, insulators, etc..

Thank you.

I took everything apart (split the base) & cleaned it out. Visually it all appears to be in tact.
After putting everything back together & attaching to Paps it's working.

I'm almost certain this happened because I over tightened it. I came to this conclusion because after I fired it & it worked I gave it another turn to make sure it was tight & got the same results that started my initial post.

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[perseas]

Thank you.

I took everything apart (split the base) & cleaned it out. Visually it all appears to be in tact.
After putting everything back together & attaching to Paps it's working.

I'm almost certain this happened because I over tightened it. I came to this conclusion because after I fired it & it worked I gave it another turn to make sure it was tight & got the same results that started my initial post.

Sent from a BIG phone.....Galaxy Note 3

Which version is your PAPS?

 

[ScandaLeX]

Which version is your PAPS.?

Paps version 2.5

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[perseas]

Paps version 2.5

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Your Spheroid uses thumb nuts or screws for the posts?
If you have the former ones, tighten the negative post and tighten very well the positive post too

 

[dmska]

Well, I think I just got my first do-able set up on the spheroid. I trimmed down the fluff, rebuilt a micro coil and re- wicked with small bit of cotton. Oh and I had to take the base off to wipe out excess liquid from my first build (that in and of itself was a bit of a pain). Enjoying it so far, I know it's not near perfect, but it'll do. I think with enough practice it will get even better.

 

[DaFreeK]

I had 1 horrible day with my Spheroid, dry hit after dry hit. I made probably around 15 setups and looked at the coil very closely so that I was definitely sure the kanthal was touching the wick, then trying to choke the wick and after that trying not to choke the wick. Nothing worked. I was soooo frustrated, because my Spheroid worked flawlessly one whole year. I always use the same setup, it always worked, why doesn't it work now? Took the base apart, maybe there's a short, nope, everything looked fine, cleaned it, put it back together, new setup, dry hit. ARGH!
Then I remembered that I've put too much fluff in the tank the other day and that I've changed liquids

Such a rookie mistake! Changed setups without looking at the fluff
Trimmed the fluff a little bit, because my new liquid is much thicker, and I'm a very, very, very happy vaper again

 

[ScandaLeX]

Your Spheroid uses thumb nuts or screws for the posts?
If you have the former ones, tighten the negative post and tighten very well the positive post too

Thumb screws. Both were extremely tight. Problem occurred when I actually attached Spheroid to Paps. I was over tightening the Spheroid.

While I'm thinking of it, which replacement kit would I need to get for the V2 Spheroid? V2 or V3?
I detest thumb screws. My fingernails are too long to tighten them so I have to use needle nose pliers.

 

[Hrathor]

Thumb screws. Both were extremely tight. Problem occurred when I actually attached Spheroid to Paps. I was over tightening the Spheroid.

While I'm thinking of it, which replacement kit would I need to get for the V2 Spheroid? V2 or V3?
I detest thumb screws. My fingernails are too long to tighten them so I have to use needle nose pliers.

You want the v3 upgrade kit if you are looking for the phillips heads to replace the thumb screws.

 

[chadsmo]

Thumb screws. Both were extremely tight. Problem occurred when I actually attached Spheroid to Paps. I was over tightening the Spheroid.

While I'm thinking of it, which replacement kit would I need to get for the V2 Spheroid? V2 or V3?
I detest thumb screws. My fingernails are too long to tighten them so I have to use needle nose pliers.

In stock at DOMO right now https://domovaporco.com/product/gp-spheroid-replacement-kit-v3/