GrimmGreen makes the call - no more ProTanks!
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Mine is collecting dust after I got my Davide tank, so much superior in every aspect.
I thought about selling my 2 ProTank 3s, but the drip tips are worth more than I could get for them.
There have been some tanks where clones appeared even before official release...
And yet, demand for Kanger at double, triple, or even quadruple the cost of clones still outstrips their production with good QC. The illusion of brand-name quality assurance is enough for a high volume of sales.
The money is there - people spend hundreds upon hundreds on different brand-name tank, often from new startup companies with slow production, and are happy with their purchase.
As far as heads go, if I can purchase bulk PT heads for $.64 each, put 5 cents of material in them, and produce a coil superior than one that people are willing to pay $2 for, I can see there being a niche open for a business.
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I've moved on to carto tanks. I just don't have the desire or time to devote to rebuilds, and I love the taste and hit I get from the cartotanks. I love the simplicity of them too, and the next to zero maintenance time. No leaks, no gurgles and the carts appear to last a really long time compared to when I need to clean and dry burn any coil heads for the clearos we've got.
I agree. Having tried most of the tank systems out there, the Protank (specifically version 2) has been the most consistent.
I think people need to understand that when manufacturers release new product on the market, they don't test it on EVERY PV known to man - some things are going to work better on different devices.
It's a lot like computer games vs console games. When a game designer creates a game for a specific console, all the hardware components are consistent and specification information is available to them, whereas a PC game programmer spends a lot more time on error handling due to a seemingly infinite amount of potential hardware configurations computers are capable of, not to mention program conflicts with other software, available system resources, things like that.
Not everything is going to work for everyone.
Side-by-side, the protank out performs any tank system I've tried to date, but it's not perfect.
Good luck to everyone trying to find something that is 200% consistent all the time that requires no "fiddling". I've been looking for years and still have yet to find anything that doesn't require my attention at least bi-weekly to some degree.
I tend to believe that all tanks using BCC have one variable that's pretty hard to get around. The Kanger coils. I've been told by my local B&M vendor that other brands are available but all I've seen are Kanger and Kanger clone replacements.
The Anyvape Davide Glassomizer as I got it out of the box really seems to out perform the Protank II, however, I've replaced the PT II coils several times and I don't know that the characteristics of the Davide won't change when I replace the coil with a Kangar.
Where ever there's variables there are inconsistancies and I've never seen that addressed when it comes to reviews I've watched and read. And not to say that reviews discussing pontential variables aren't out there, I just haven't ever seen them if they do exist.
The Anyvape Davide Glassomizer as I got it out of the box really seems to out perform the Protank II, however, I've replaced the PT II coils several times and I don't know that the characteristics of the Davide won't change when I replace the coil with a Kangar.
Where ever there's variables there are inconsistancies and I've never seen that addressed when it comes to reviews I've watched and read. And not to say that reviews discussing pontential variables aren't out there, I just haven't ever seen them if they do exist.
QC is the lifeblood of extended sales in business. Many of us remember when Boge cartos were the cream of the crop. They had an extended manufacturing problem where they wouldn't absorb juice and vapability became terrible. People started searching for something better.
I ended up being a SmokTech carto fan and I still buy SmokTech cartos exclusively (when I buy cartos).
I still like my Protanks, though. I guess my juice does, too. I just don't have any problems I can't work through and solve other than the predictability of a head being great or so so. The bad ones I re-coil and turn into great heads.
I ended up being a SmokTech carto fan and I still buy SmokTech cartos exclusively (when I buy cartos).
I still like my Protanks, though. I guess my juice does, too. I just don't have any problems I can't work through and solve other than the predictability of a head being great or so so. The bad ones I re-coil and turn into great heads.
I like the stainless 2.5 ohm dual-coil mega cartos, they last forever with heavy PG liquid.
I suspect Kanger also has benefitted from being an early manufacturer, and have gotten a lot of positive perception for their brand name - which they could be riding on, cutting costs to boost profit by using cheaper materials, or lower quality control, or using a cheaper shop to make their products. That could explain the wandering air holes on the PT II and the drop in quality for the heads.
I think the point being made by his comments were not that the protank was junk and slamming Kanger. The problem is the same issue with a lot of the bcc models from whomever. The are fiddlly. If you screw them down too tight you have to pretend to siphon gas to get air through them. The can leak down the center shaft to the batter connection and create either gurgling or bad connection and no vapor. I have a PT and a smok aro and both have the same problem. I have been committed enough to figure out how to use them. I have been committed enough and have to ability to rebuild the coils and rewick. I can make these things sing. But what about the newbie that gets one at the local B&M, takes it home and has problems. They may not have the commitment to learn how to fiddle with it and just goes back to buy a pack, buy a lighter, light it up, and smoke.
Pbrusardo has a video about the some of the top bcc clearos with air controls that I watched today and he paused in the middle and had to just say "Kanger slow the ....... down. No need for so many different coil types, tank types, etc." Just make one that the new person can take it, fill it, and get the vape.
My brother in law from New York was in for Christmas and New Years and he waited till the day before he was flying home to go buy his first setup. He bought a protank and a vision spinner. Well 2 days after he got home he is texting me talking about the leaking and lack of vaper from the PT. There isn't any help where he lives so I am trying to walk him through it on the phone. What if he gets tired of fiddling and just goes back to cigs? I think this happens more than we ever know about. Our vape community would be much larger and better off if there was something that the new person or the "I'm not going to put much effort in this" person could buy at a reasonable price that just works to get off cigs.
I personally think Grimmgreen was just frustrated with the problems his subscribers were having and is probably tired of all the new stuff coming out almost on a weekly basis before companies like Kanger perfects simple to use equipment that anyone no matter the skill or dedication level can use to get off cigs.
Pbrusardo has a video about the some of the top bcc clearos with air controls that I watched today and he paused in the middle and had to just say "Kanger slow the ....... down. No need for so many different coil types, tank types, etc." Just make one that the new person can take it, fill it, and get the vape.
My brother in law from New York was in for Christmas and New Years and he waited till the day before he was flying home to go buy his first setup. He bought a protank and a vision spinner. Well 2 days after he got home he is texting me talking about the leaking and lack of vaper from the PT. There isn't any help where he lives so I am trying to walk him through it on the phone. What if he gets tired of fiddling and just goes back to cigs? I think this happens more than we ever know about. Our vape community would be much larger and better off if there was something that the new person or the "I'm not going to put much effort in this" person could buy at a reasonable price that just works to get off cigs.
I personally think Grimmgreen was just frustrated with the problems his subscribers were having and is probably tired of all the new stuff coming out almost on a weekly basis before companies like Kanger perfects simple to use equipment that anyone no matter the skill or dedication level can use to get off cigs.
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I don't understand how my evod can be so great and mini protank 2 so crappy when they both use the same coil heads?! All I know is I haven't used my protanks since the first week I bought them (too many dry hits/leaking issues) where as my evods I use daily. They both use the same coils, same ohms and same voltage running through them... very weird.
Are you sure the O-rings are where they go and in good shape.
Darn I am always late to the party, they quit before I ever get started and I just ordered evod heads. Of course my first love was the vivi nova which I still use after a year and a half.....the same one mind you. I just rebuild my heads
Wow I have almost the same exact issues as you with the protank mini 2. I bought a mini protank 2, protank 3 and then decided to get the evod as a backup but after my mini 2 started giving me this nasty tin taste, I switched to the protank 3. Then the protank 3 worked well for about a day and then I started getting that same burnt taste. It is my fault though because I let it run too low and I believe I burnt out my coil. I replaced the coil and cleaned out the tank but then it seems the orings for the top and bottom just wouldn't fit properly and so it seemed to leak more after..
I then switched to my "backup" evod and I've been using it to close to a week on the same coil and I haven't gotten the "tin" taste until today and after I added more liquid, the tin taste went away.
..strange :-\ I will eventually try to clean the protanks again but I will wait until the evod fails because I am lazy. The only thing about the evod is that I have to refill it more like twice a day when the protanks I could almost go a whole day without filling.
I buy the SmokTech Megas in SS (or black when that's all they have in stock).
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I had to ask Kanger......... I just had to. So i did. Perhaps the young lady is out of the proverbial loop - but......
Dear Don,
Thanks for your email !
I haven't heard any news about stop producing protank2 or mini protank2 and other protank series.
Thanks for your prompt attention and cooperation.
We shall spare no efforts in endeavoring to be of service to you.
Rgds
Lulu
Kangertech
KangerTech
The most advanced Ecig manufacturer.
Business hours: 9:00AM - 9:00 PM China time
Dear Don,
Thanks for your email !
I haven't heard any news about stop producing protank2 or mini protank2 and other protank series.
Thanks for your prompt attention and cooperation.
We shall spare no efforts in endeavoring to be of service to you.
Rgds
Lulu
Kangertech
KangerTech
The most advanced Ecig manufacturer.
Business hours: 9:00AM - 9:00 PM China time
Lol! Funny
Incidentally, have you noticed Kanger now promises to replace all DOA heads? From Kangertech.com:Kangertech said:
If you really want better QC from Kanger, start sending those dud heads in!!
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