Many thanks flintlock62, I am probably going to try Mt. Baker first. I could cut the 36mg 236ml in half for less than $40 total. Get the total up to $50 with some accessories and I get free shipping. With vaping Zone, I would have to spend more initially, but with the 48mg strength I could cut down to 16mg and have 750ml for around $65. 48mg nic juice is still a bit higher of a poison than I want around. I only vape 2-3ml a day, 472ml +flavoring will last half a year, 750ml might make it a whole year. Not nearly as cheap as totally DIY, but easier and safer for a noob mixer. Gotta start somewhere, and the standard 100mg nic liquid might not scare anybody in this thread, but it scares me a bit. I have NOOOOO interest in making/testing my own flavors. I really like some M&P flavors, but they don't sell pre-made base liquid to add to their flavor concentrates. I also find some of their juices a little too strong or too weak, just like any other vendor. It's all subjective to the individual flavor consumer, no offense to M&P or anybody else. Again, thanks flintlock62, I hope your suggestions help others as much as it helped me. BTW, the prices I calculated should include shipping, but not an ECF discount or other coupon code.