Guide to DIY Flavoring

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ToweKnee

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Any suggestions for a "Virginia" baccy ... it's a ready made MFS arrived 2 weeks ago. Tis sorely lacking "body", substance, would I be wasting flavoring adding RY4 flavor drops, or Desert Joe? /QUOTE]

MTS vape Wizard will help give it some body. Also how long have you steeped it? I steep all my tobaccos a minimum of a month. EM does not add sweetness really but will take sharp notes and mellow them out. Stevia and Sucralose will make it sweeter.
 

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I am considering the use of some essential oils in vaping. Was worried it would destroy an atty or the carto, what is your opinion on this if I add alcohol?

I haven't started experimenting with DIY juices yet, but I have a great deal of experience with essential oils. I'm going to try to be very careful here because I've been informed that I may not share herbalist knowledge on the forum. You should know, however, that EOs are not necessarily safe to work with without a number of precautions. Because they're available at health food stores, people tend to assume that they are very safe, and that is simply not true. Some are almost entirely safe, while others have serious toxicity issues.

NEVER assume that an essential oil has the same properties as the herb it is derived from.

NEVER assume that EOs are safe to use directly on the skin.

Inhaling vapors from EOs is generally NOT considered safe. For instance, many citrus oils can induce permanent photosensitivity.

Some EOs would definitely destroy a cart or tank. Others should be alright at normal dilution levels. I don't yet have enough DIY juice experience to be able to advise much on that.

If you are interested in working with EOs, I recommend getting a copy of Plant Aromatics by Martin Watt. This book is, I believe, out of print, but it's worth looking on Amazon or in used bookstores.

Hope this is helpful, and I hope I haven't violated the rules (again).
 

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Tiny paranoid voice in the back of my mind says the Powers That Be might make vaping extra pricey or even impossible. As the title states, my search is for a PG/VG/nic base that only needs flavor. Close to DIY, but without the complications of any ratio other than flavor. Juice makers often sell their flavors by themselves for the DIY types. I have no interest in making my own flavors, not that into candy, don't want to waste my time. I'm searching for the equivalent to a premade pancake mix, I will add the fruit/flavoring, made by a vendor that has spent far more time than I will. BTW, I can't start my own shop at all, just a bit afraid of the possible crackdown, and looking to stock up on the essentials. Vapor Renu makes a base liquid in my price range, but I don't have any experience with them. Any other options?
 

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Tiny paranoid voice in the back of my mind says the Powers That Be might make vaping extra pricey or even impossible. As the title states, my search is for a PG/VG/nic base that only needs flavor. Close to DIY, but without the complications of any ratio other than flavor. Juice makers often sell their flavors by themselves for the DIY types. I have no interest in making my own flavors, not that into candy, don't want to waste my time. I'm searching for the equivalent to a premade pancake mix, I will add the fruit/flavoring, made by a vendor that has spent far more time than I will. BTW, I can't start my own shop at all, just a bit afraid of the possible crackdown, and looking to stock up on the essentials. Vapor Renu makes a base liquid in my price range, but I don't have any experience with them. Any other options?
 
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Many thanks flintlock62, I am probably going to try Mt. Baker first. I could cut the 36mg 236ml in half for less than $40 total. Get the total up to $50 with some accessories and I get free shipping. With vaping Zone, I would have to spend more initially, but with the 48mg strength I could cut down to 16mg and have 750ml for around $65. 48mg nic juice is still a bit higher of a poison than I want around. I only vape 2-3ml a day, 472ml +flavoring will last half a year, 750ml might make it a whole year. Not nearly as cheap as totally DIY, but easier and safer for a noob mixer. Gotta start somewhere, and the standard 100mg nic liquid might not scare anybody in this thread, but it scares me a bit. I have NOOOOO interest in making/testing my own flavors. I really like some M&P flavors, but they don't sell pre-made base liquid to add to their flavor concentrates. I also find some of their juices a little too strong or too weak, just like any other vendor. It's all subjective to the individual flavor consumer, no offense to M&P or anybody else. Again, thanks flintlock62, I hope your suggestions help others as much as it helped me. BTW, the prices I calculated should include shipping, but not an ECF discount or other coupon code.
 

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OK, forget my last post. I overcame my fear of 100mg. Besides the fact that freezer space is somewhat limited, the cost difference is significant. I would like to thank ecigvape.com for their calculator program, it made cost comparisons a breeze. Wizard Labs has the cheapest 100mg I could find but they are out of stock on that item, no telling how long that will last. RTS Vapes and My Freedom Smokes have the same prices before discounts, but MFS sends it to you in a brown glass bottle. I am looking at making my first batch here, I am sure I there might be better quality 100mg vendors out there, and I might be off in my accounting a bit. I like 16mg to 18mg myself, so adding various flavors should average it all out for a 20mg base to work. Buying a 250ml bottle of 100mg will should make 1250ml 20mg in total, for $68, discounts excluded and no leftover PG/VG. That should last a vaper like me well over a year. Still looking for this free shipping and 10% off from MFS that I heard about. If I don't get any feedback I'm going with this plan. I hope I didn't grind this thread to a halt...:confused:
 

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WL had 100 mg nic today, but two eyeballs blinks later, it was all gone

OK, forget my last post. I overcame my fear of 100mg. Besides the fact that freezer space is somewhat limited, the cost difference is significant. I would like to thank ecigvape.com for their calculator program, it made cost comparisons a breeze. Wizard Labs has the cheapest 100mg I could find but they are out of stock on that item, no telling how long that will last. RTS Vapes and My Freedom Smokes have the same prices before discounts, but MFS sends it to you in a brown glass bottle. I am looking at making my first batch here, I am sure I there might be better quality 100mg vendors out there, and I might be off in my accounting a bit. I like 16mg to 18mg myself, so adding various flavors should average it all out for a 20mg base to work. Buying a 250ml bottle of 100mg will should make 1250ml 20mg in total, for $68, discounts excluded and no leftover PG/VG. That should last a vaper like me well over a year. Still looking for this free shipping and 10% off from MFS that I heard about. If I don't get any feedback I'm going with this plan. I hope I didn't grind this thread to a halt...:confused:
 

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WL had 100 mg nic today, but two eyeballs blinks later, it was all gone

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! AHHH!!! No email notification? I put myself on the list and set my phone to blast an alarm anytime I get an e-mail. Do I seriously need to go back to looking at the site every 15 min? I am so insanely disappointed. No Ice and now worried about ever getting any from them. :(
 

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If I understand this post correct.. as Schnarph was looking for a simple DIY way to make juice, that all is needed for ingredients are the unflavored nic bases and whatever flavor you want to add to it? no need to buy nic pg/vg seperate and other misc ingredients I have read from the very first post? Been reading here for hours and getting tired. :confused:
 

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Tiny paranoid voice in the back of my mind says the Powers That Be might make vaping extra pricey or even impossible. As the title states, my search is for a PG/VG/nic base that only needs flavor. Close to DIY, but without the complications of any ratio other than flavor. Juice makers often sell their flavors by themselves for the DIY types. I have no interest in making my own flavors, not that into candy, don't want to waste my time. I'm searching for the equivalent to a premade pancake mix, I will add the fruit/flavoring, made by a vendor that has spent far more time than I will. BTW, I can't start my own shop at all, just a bit afraid of the possible crackdown, and looking to stock up on the essentials. Vapor Renu makes a base liquid in my price range, but I don't have any experience with them. Any other options?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/396145-super-easy-diy-method.html
 
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