Hcigar HB DNA 40 anticipation thread

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This is my first dna 40 mod. Bought it from Sweet Vapes the first day it was released.

Was extremely disappointed to see the issues with the wiring. However, hcigar did a very clean job on the wiring.

I rewired mine by just bridging, the existing ground screw to the open board hole. I hadn't even fired it off before and probably didn't need to do this since I don't push my devices, but didn't want any issues. Will probably attach an atty and try it tomorrow. Haven't fired it up yet.

I'm planning on using a SubTank-mini with the Ni coils, so we'll see how it goes. I'm not the neatest when it comes to soldering, but I think I have a good connection now to the board and the device fires up fine. I used solid copper wire (22 GA), and had a really nice fit before I soldered it. If nothing else, it has to be better than before.

This will be my first temp controlled device, so I'm ready to give it a try.

I'm installed/removed several atty's to it and my 510 connector only turns a bit if at all. I'll fire it up probably tomorrow and worry about the 510 later. I always carry an iStick with me as a backup so not worried about being able to vaoe.

Bigger question is, what happens if the 510 wire dumps? Does it short out the device, shock you. overheat, etc? I was just planning on using it until I had a failure from the 510.

Thanks folks

The 510 uses the case ground and should you loose or get a weak connection from the case ground you should get a Check Atomizer error message....
 

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Ahhh, so this is your first DNA40 device? The battery meter leaves a lot to be desired. I have 2 DNA40 devices and the battery meters on both only show something that relates to battery voltage after the unit wakes up (after the splash screen), and once you hit the fire button its all over. Sometimes I pull the battery and refit it just to see where the battery is at (force a reset and splash screen).

the crazy thing is, with the box wired Hcigar's way I got the behavior I expected from the battery indicator, coming from a Yihi chipped device. The indicator would decrease steadily with use in the way you would expect it to. Now, wired as Evolv recommends, it appears not to -but I will have to watch it over the course of another battery to be certain enough of this to stick with this story.
 

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the crazy thing is, with the box wired Hcigar's way I got the behavior I expected from the battery indicator, coming from a Yihi chipped device. The indicator would decrease steadily with use in the way you would expect it to. Now, wired as Evolv recommends, it appears not to -but I will have to watch it over the course of another battery to be certain enough of this to stick with this story.

Interesting. I never looked at the battery indicator closely prior to the fix. So I have no idea if it's acting differently now versus then. Since I haven't used it that much, I've only charged the battery once. And just to clarify, are you talking about how on the Yihi chips, when you press on the fire button, you would see the battery indicator decrease while it's being used, and then pop back up to it's current charge after you let go of the fire button?
 

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Interesting. I never looked at the battery indicator closely prior to the fix. So I have no idea if it's acting differently now versus then. Since I haven't used it that much, I've only charged the battery once. And just to clarify, are you talking about how on the Yihi chips, when you press on the fire button, you would see the battery indicator decrease while it's being used, and then pop back up to it's current charge after you let go of the fire button?

no I mean how the Yihi chips accurately portrait drain of battery charge
the DNA 40 appeared to do so, improperly wired
wired correctly, it does not appear to accurately reflect the state of battery charge
 

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Vaportek just sent me an email saying the new price on this is 95.00 In a couple months these things will be in the 75 dollar range.

I am turned off by a off the shelf mod that is a diy box. I mean if I am looking for a diy box it is one thing but if I buy a built unit off the rack I want it to work without requiring warranty voiding tweaks.
 

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no I mean how the Yihi chips accurately portrait drain of battery charge
the DNA 40 appeared to do so, improperly wired
wired correctly, it does not appear to accurately reflect the state of battery charge

Thanks for the clarification. And with that, mine just told me I have to charge with "Weak Battery" message. Just a little earlier it was showing about 75% full. Charger shows the battery at about 3.40. Maybe a little less.
 

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Vaportek just sent me an email saying the new price on this is 95.00 In a couple months these things will be in the 75 dollar range.

I am turned off by a off the shelf mod that is a diy box. I mean if I am looking for a diy box it is one thing but if I buy a built unit off the rack I want it to work without requiring warranty voiding tweaks.

Have you seen most DNA box mods? They're all a mess inside, in fact I'd say the wiring job on this (aside from a single ground wire) is pretty darn good. I've always said box mods are bringing hot glue back into fashion. There is so much garbage out there selling for 150-300 dollars, you open these boxes up and they're a big web of cheap glue. This mod as stated aside from the ground wire is actually pretty darn well put together.
 

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Have you seen most DNA box mods? They're all a mess inside, in fact I'd say the wiring job on this (aside from a single ground wire) is pretty darn good. I've always said box mods are bringing hot glue back into fashion. There is so much garbage out there selling for 150-300 dollars, you open these boxes up and they're a big web of cheap glue. This mod as stated aside from the ground wire is actually pretty darn well put together.

I have seen a lot of Cana's and last years dna 30's with the hot glue mess. Not a dna 30 but as you can see it is very clean inside. 20150206_121216.jpg Also the Zero clone was noted for being clean inside, the ipv3 is another Chinese unit that is not a hot glue mess. These days cleaner builds are getting more common except maybe the Cana's might still be a glue mess.

I never said anything about the cleanliness of the box as it is clean. I was simply commenting on the fact that if I have to void the warranty by cracking it open and bust out the wire and soldering gun then it seems like an incomplete unit to me. So from a normal consumers perspective the unit is not exactly ready off the shelf if it needs modified. And while some may really enjoy this task a large portion of consumers are not getting what they paid for if they have to diy it.
 
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there's enough wasted space inside that Milehighmods box to make another mod!

It's a biggin lol. It is awesome though and if the next version is a sx350j chip, and there has been no issues with the sx350j chip you can be sure I will be wanting to add it to the mix.

I didn't mean to side track the thread. I will be watching the HB unit to see if it has the same chip issues that has hit the VS.
 

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Odd behavior from my HBDNA40 and was just wondering if anyone else has experienced it, or heard of it from any other DNA40 devices.

I built a new single coil to about .20 nickel on an old RDA, very low airflow, compared to what is out today. But it was working fine. Battery is a Samsung 25R, charged yesterday and just got the Weak Battery message to charge, so it's now on the external charger showing 3.26V. Instead of waiting for the battery to charge I decided to use a fully charged purple EFEST(I know, not the best battery, but should be ok for this application). Settings: 430F, 24 Watts. The vape felt a little different, so I looked at the screen while firing, and noticed that the Watts would jump around a bit to do TC, but then it would spike up to 39.9W for a couple of milliseconds. I changed the settings down to 400F, 22 Watts, and it was doing the same thing. Very odd. Please let me know if you've heard of this, I haven't read through any DNA40 threads, so the information might already be out there.

I took the purple EFEST out and am now "resting" the HBDNA40 until the Samsung 25R is charged back up. The EFEST worked fine in my SigMini30w. I had been using that with a subtank with a .50 coil at 25w.
 

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Odd behavior from my HBDNA40 and was just wondering if anyone else has experienced it, or heard of it from any other DNA40 devices.

I built a new single coil to about .20 nickel on an old RDA, very low airflow, compared to what is out today. But it was working fine. Battery is a Samsung 25R, charged yesterday and just got the Weak Battery message to charge, so it's now on the external charger showing 3.26V. Instead of waiting for the battery to charge I decided to use a fully charged purple EFEST(I know, not the best battery, but should be ok for this application). Settings: 430F, 24 Watts. The vape felt a little different, so I looked at the screen while firing, and noticed that the Watts would jump around a bit to do TC, but then it would spike up to 39.9W for a couple of milliseconds. I changed the settings down to 400F, 22 Watts, and it was doing the same thing. Very odd. Please let me know if you've heard of this, I haven't read through any DNA40 threads, so the information might already be out there.

I took the purple EFEST out and am now "resting" the HBDNA40 until the Samsung 25R is charged back up. The EFEST worked fine in my SigMini30w. I had been using that with a subtank with a .50 coil at 25w.

There is a preheat that spikes the wattage to get your coil to, iirc, 100 degrees Fahrenheit of your setting and then pulls the wattage back down
 

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There is a preheat that spikes the wattage to get your coil to, iirc, 100 degrees Fahrenheit of your setting and then pulls the wattage back down

Thanks, but I'm almost certain that isn't it. This happens after the coil registers higher than 100F. I'll try to research it later when I find some time. Plus it would have made more sense if it was doing this from the moment I started using it. But I've used it for about a week now and this is the first I've noticed it.
 
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