Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

[AnthonyB]

No worries! You clearly have a passion for the flavors and I respect your knowledge.

I’ve been working with Adam & Heather since early in 2014. I was responsible for all of their FDA filings. Working so closely with them, there are things you get to know. They are both quite passionate and precise people, especially about HHV which has been true joy for them. Legend, for example, is by far the biggest seller and has been key to HHV’s popularity. They are pretty unlikely to have intentionally messed with any ingredient. That’s true for all of their NETs. I do know Heather has changed some fruit flavors in the past when she found a better, more authentic flavoring and the result was great.

She really has missed being able to create new recipes.

With all that said, I’m not being coy about the facts behind the changes — which story Bronze has regaled us with many a time.

I simply haven’t ever asked them what happened back then and that’s why mine is an educated guess. I know a lot about HHV, but I don’t know that.

this is what happened back then, Heather created the best juices that ever existed, wrote them down on a notepad and a blizzard swept them away.

Wait, do they have blizzards in America?

It is no exaggeration to say that if Legend and probably Serendipty werent created, this group might not be here.

Legend put HHV on the map!

 

[DavidOH]

Morning.....

 

[CMD-Ky]

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Spoiled brat!

My goodness, that looks great, General.

 

[Bronze]

Wow! Really really incredible. Great job! He looks right at home and happy to be surveying his kingdom. He’s gonna love it when some critter tries to get too close and he can just dart back inside.

Impressive design and speedy construction. Applause! Applause!

I zoomed in trying to see where the stairs are in there. Also attempting to see how you’ve anchored it to keep it from the hurricane winds.

I'll post some pix of the inside later. As for anchors, I screwed the thing to the deck. You can see some short 2x2's at the bottom I used for that (2 ea. on the long sides). Add that it has mesh sides so the wind goes thru it and it handles the wind pretty good. I didn't want the bottom to sit in rainwater and rot so I nailed in some of those hard plastic chair sliders around the bottom to elevate it an 1/8" (before anchoring it to the deck. Will help keep it dry underneath. The roof overhangs 5+" I had a big ole branch in there initially to ramp up to the top but he showed no interest so I pulled it out and replaced it with a short catwalk. I'll put a smaller branch in there for scratching.

You built a pigeon coup for a cat ? I thought getting up the night before to go to work was weird ...
I have to admit, it is a nice looking pigeon coup.

It was either a pigeon coup or putting up with an annoying cat. He's an outdoor kitty all the way and there was no living with him inside. Just too crazy. Can't let him live his entire life outside either cuz he wont live long so the pigeon coup is a tradeoff. Working so far. He likes it out there. I like it even more than him.

 

[PapawBrett]

So, I get home 14 hours later....
Chewy has dropped two large boxes in the front yard. Lily found them first, smelled salmon, and chewed through the corner of the shipping box to tear out a six pack of puppy teething rings. And she tore it open and ate all six large salmon teething rings. Liked them so much that Lily wouldn't let Natasha near the boxes. Mamaw eventually broke this scene up.
Keep in mind Lily is a 13 year old beagle - these teething rings are made for puppies. WAY too many calories and nutrients for an older dog. I suggested Mamaw doesn't feed Lily tonight, and she agreed. Mamaw has been busy today.
Me, I just hooked up, strapped down, and lallygagged around for over four hundred miles, loaded and unloaded twice. Mamaw has it so rough.

 

[EleanorR]

Poor Natasha!

Baby needs her teething rings!

 

[AnthonyB]

No worries! You clearly have a passion for the flavors and I respect your knowledge.

I’ve been working with Adam & Heather since early in 2014. I was responsible for all of their FDA filings. Working so closely with them, there are things you get to know. They are both quite passionate and precise people, especially about HHV which has been true joy for them. Legend, for example, is by far the biggest seller and has been key to HHV’s popularity. They are pretty unlikely to have intentionally messed with any ingredient. That’s true for all of their NETs. I do know Heather has changed some fruit flavors in the past when she found a better, more authentic flavoring and the result was great.

She really has missed being able to create new recipes.

With all that said, I’m not being coy about the facts behind the changes — which story Bronze has regaled us with many a time.

I simply haven’t ever asked them what happened back then and that’s why mine is an educated guess. I know a lot about HHV, but I don’t know that.

With all that is going on with US mail bans and the relentless raft of state and federal laws, has Heathers considered either selling wholesale or manufacturing abroad?

I am surprised there hasn’t been a mass exodus of vape vendors to other countries, particular ejuice businesses. I would think Canada, England and Australia would be good markets to target. NZ is also a good market albeit a small population.

not being able to change or introduce new flavors is a crippling restriction. Flavours in vaping tend to follow the phenomena of trends like fashion. Tobaccos are popular one year, then yoghurts, then rice, etc.

If heathers ever wants to sell or manufacturer through Australian outlets I’m happy to do some sales repping.

 

[retic1959]

You built a pigeon coup for a cat ? I thought getting up the night before to go to work was weird ...
I have to admit, it is a nice looking pigeon coup.

Pigeon coup ? Catio ? I'm surprised ya didn't recognize it for what it really is Papaw . It's a WAD , a wife appeasement device . I got one on my porch though I didn't build it . Be nice to poor kitty , she didn't mean to shred the sofa , please don't strangle poor kitty , she couldn't help crapping on the bed . So wifey is now happy that Bronze is being "nice" to poor kitty , makes him look good and the feline is outta his hair . Ya gotta think of these things Brett , what would ya do if Mamaw brings a kitty home .

 

[LAwaters]

With all that is going on with US mail bans and the relentless raft of state and federal laws, has Heathers considered either selling wholesale or manufacturing abroad?

I am surprised there hasn’t been a mass exodus of vape vendors to other countries, particular ejuice businesses. I would think Canada, England and Australia would be good markets to target. NZ is also a good market albeit a small population.

not being able to change or introduce new flavors is a crippling restriction. Flavours in vaping tend to follow the phenomena of trends like fashion. Tobaccos are popular one year, then yoghurts, then rice, etc.

If heathers ever wants to sell or manufacturer through Australian outlets I’m happy to do some sales repping.

Right now, no possibilities are off the table except the ability to have an online store and ship to consumers. It’s been less than 90 days, and it’s going to take some time to see some way through.

Each loophole anyone believes they have found has led to a closer look at the law — only to find that the noose is tighter than anyone currently realizes.

One example is synthetic nicotine which at least two major vendors went all in on to avoid FDA tobacco definition and PMTA’s.

Only to find that *this* law closed that “loophole.”

Meanwhile the PMTA hammer still hovers. No e-liquid has been approved to date. There’s still some hope, but nothing is certain for anyone.

 

[LAwaters]

So, I get home 14 hours later....
Chewy has dropped two large boxes in the front yard. Lily found them first, smelled salmon, and chewed through the corner of the shipping box to tear out a six pack of puppy teething rings. And she tore it open and ate all six large salmon teething rings. Liked them so much that Lily wouldn't let Natasha near the boxes. Mamaw eventually broke this scene up.
Keep in mind Lily is a 13 year old beagle - these teething rings are made for puppies. WAY too many calories and nutrients for an older dog. I suggested Mamaw doesn't feed Lily tonight, and she agreed. Mamaw has been busy today.
Me, I just hooked up, strapped down, and lallygagged around for over four hundred miles, loaded and unloaded twice. Mamaw has it so rough.

Sure hope Lily doesn’t spend the night “returning” all that on Mamaw’s clean floors.

Ah, the joys of parenthood!

 

[Hulamoon]

With all that is going on with US mail bans and the relentless raft of state and federal laws, has Heathers considered either selling wholesale or manufacturing abroad?

I am surprised there hasn’t been a mass exodus of vape vendors to other countries, particular ejuice businesses. I would think Canada, England and Australia would be good markets to target. NZ is also a good market albeit a small population.

not being able to change or introduce new flavors is a crippling restriction. Flavours in vaping tend to follow the phenomena of trends like fashion. Tobaccos are popular one year, then yoghurts, then rice, etc.

If heathers ever wants to sell or manufacturer through Australian outlets I’m happy to do some sales repping.

At this moment, the powers that be are trying to pull the same stunt in the UK, even though our doctors recommended vaping over smoking and we "quit the EU" (No I don't believe that we really did either.) I don't think there's anything stopping vape shop to vape shop orders though?.....yet...... We have several actual stores in the neighbourhood where I live, like Volcano. Pain in the youknowwheres for those who don't though. I dunno....at least on a national level, and maybe an international level, that might be a way to special order what you want and have the vape shop put in a request, or worst just stock some of the most popular, though they wouldn't be nearly as tailored regarding percentages of VG/PG flavour, extra flavour and so on.

 

[Bunnykiller]

hi all... well the good feeling didnt last long this time. Went from feeling decent to feeling krappy in about 5 hrs flat... messed around playing games on the machine of delight, did some electronics and slept way too much. just glanced at my schedule and I have a CT scan for the morning... so that means no food after 9 pm tonite and no coffie in the morning... then I get to drink a quart of yuk when I get there... it has the consistency of watery VG, just enuf goo in it to coat your mouth and make it feel really dried out. Plus i get a dose of the "tracer" ( cant think of the real word for it) basically radioactive sugar water that gives you a hot flash. The main issue I have with the CT scan is the way they want me to hold my arms while being shuttled back n forth in n out of the machine... arms over my head basically... and its one of the positions that my shoulder cant do well with, something gets twisted or pinched and is quite painful.. once its done, my shoulder burns and throbs for a few hours... makes driving home a challenge to say the least. Think Ill go play Borderlands2.. go hunt down the mutant huge bats and the "fireant spiders" need to get my levels up before I take on the "Boss Ant" ( nearly impossible to dispose of)

 

[Bronze]

hi all... well the good feeling didnt last long this time. Went from feeling decent to feeling krappy in about 5 hrs flat... messed around playing games on the machine of delight, did some electronics and slept way too much. just glanced at my schedule and I have a CT scan for the morning... so that means no food after 9 pm tonite and no coffie in the morning... then I get to drink a quart of yuk when I get there... it has the consistency of watery VG, just enuf goo in it to coat your mouth and make it feel really dried out. Plus i get a dose of the "tracer" ( cant think of the real word for it) basically radioactive sugar water that gives you a hot flash. The main issue I have with the CT scan is the way they want me to hold my arms while being shuttled back n forth in n out of the machine... arms over my head basically... and its one of the positions that my shoulder cant do well with, something gets twisted or pinched and is quite painful.. once its done, my shoulder burns and throbs for a few hours... makes driving home a challenge to say the least. Think Ill go play Borderlands2.. go hunt down the mutant huge bats and the "fireant spiders" need to get my levels up before I take on the "Boss Ant" ( nearly impossible to dispose of)

Boss Ant has an azz like anyone else. Kick it!

 

[DavidOH]

Evening...... A long Monday..

 

[rosesense]

Evening...... A long Monday..

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He looks completely worn out from his long Monday.

 

[Nermal]

You mean Bronze, or that cat of his?

 

[LAwaters]

You mean Bronze, or that cat of his?

Aw. We shouldn’t pick on ole Bronze, should we? After all, it’s not easy to be henpecked by a woman AND a cat.

 

[PapawBrett]

Pigeon coup ? Catio ? I'm surprised ya didn't recognize it for what it really is Papaw . It's a WAD , a wife appeasement device . I got one on my porch though I didn't build it . Be nice to poor kitty , she didn't mean to shred the sofa , please don't strangle poor kitty , she couldn't help crapping on the bed . So wifey is now happy that Bronze is being "nice" to poor kitty , makes him look good and the feline is outta his hair . Ya gotta think of these things Brett , what would ya do if Mamaw brings a kitty home .

We are dog people. Just teach the mutt to crap outside, and maybe play fetch.

 

[PapawBrett]

Sure hope Lily doesn’t spend the night “returning” all that on Mamaw’s clean floors.

Ah, the joys of parenthood!

She already did.

 

[DavidOH]

Morning....