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I know my point here was to save the money

vaping is considerably more expensive than smoking was for me.
(Rolled my own for over a decade, ~$10 for papers and $15 for a pound of tobacco every 2 months)

I'm looking at making my own liquids because of the cost.
Using recycled batteries (out of an old laptop pack), recoiling, ect. to cut costs.

I also spend a lot more time with charging/tracing batteries, cleaning clearos, making coild, etc.
And that'll go up with making liquids.

All trying to recreate the experience I had before for 1/4 the cost.
 

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This isn't the place to discuss batteries, but I'd be happy to discuss in the right place.
I know how to propery work with them though, and do.

Cool.

But Many People Don't. And have No Clue what makes One Battery Different From Another.

Mentioning Pulling Unknown Batteries from a Used Battery Pack is a Very Bad Idea.
 
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But Many People Don't. And have No Clue what makes One Battery Different From Another.

Fair enough, and agree many don't, especially the people at the vape shops. They haven't a clue what they are selling.
Ask one what chemistry any 18xxx battery in the shop is, or what the proper charge rate for it is.

Mentioning Pulling Unknown Batteries from a Used Battery Pack is a Very Bad Idea.

Didn't mean to imply unknow. Just wasn't relevant to the post.
 

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I just don't understand why some of you get so worried about vaping regulations that are being proposed. Sure I don't want to pay a large tax on a bottle of juice either but I would also like to know for sure that the products I'm using are considered gras and that the companies selling me these products are actually using safe ingredients like they say they are.

I don't believe in taking anyone's word for it on ingredients we are ingesting. These company's are out to make profits and I'm not naive enough to believe they care about my health. No they care about me buying their products. Should e liquid companies have limits on flavors? Maybe. How about labels? Yep. Do you really think a bottle with a cartoon on it and liquid called super cherry berry blast isn't marketed towards teens?? Please, get real. Do you honestly think your co-worker or the public wants to be next to you as you blow giant clouds with your sub-ohm mod just because you can?? Some of you need to grow up.

Poster, I feel for you having to go through such invasive tests. Not only is it not fair it's not right to be singled out by an insurance carrier. I understand their reasoning but I do not agree or support it. Most people have any number of health conditions some by choice others by fate. If health insurance is paid for it needs to be provided regardless of any preexisting conditions.
 
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I just don't understand why some of you get so worried about vaping regulations that are being proposed. Sure I don't want to pay a large tax on a bottle of juice either but I would also like to know for sure that the products I'm using are considered gras and that the companies selling me these products are actually using safe ingredients like they say they are.

I don't believe in taking anyone's word for it on ingredients we are ingesting. These company's are out to make profits and I'm not naive enough to believe they care about my health. No they care about me buying their products. Should e liquid companies have limits on flavors? Maybe. How about labels? Yep. Do you really think a bottle with a cartoon on it and liquid called super cherry berry blast isn't marketed towards teens?? Please, get real. Do you honestly think your co-worker or the public wants to be next to you as you blow giant clouds with your sub-ohm mod just because you can?? Some of you need to grow up.

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I Don't Think you fully understand just how Devastating the Coming FDA Regulations could be.
 

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Feel free to explain. I'm listening.

You don't need to quote me lol, my post is right above yours. I don't think anyone was missing it.

OK.

Do you like buying Flavored e-Liquids?

Do you like to buy e-Liquids Greater than 18mg?

Do you like Buying e-Liquids over the Internet?

Do you Like Buying e-Liquids in Liquid Form so you can Refill Fill whatever you use?
 

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Some flavors might not be allowed to discourage marketing to kids.

I usually use 24mg but I'm sure I can live with 15mg if required by law.

I prefer to purchase locally but have purchased on the web.

There will always be bottled liquid available. They will not force you to use CIG a likes. I don't see big companies like Halo, JC, and others panicking.
 
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Some flavors might not be allowed.

I use 24mg but I'm sure I can live with 15mg if required by law.

I prefer to purchase locally but have purchased on the web.

There will always be bottled liquid available. They will not force you to use CIG a likes.

Why do you say there will Always be Bottled e-Liquids? In your own words... I'm Listening.

Since you are New to this Forum, perhaps you have Not had a Chance to look at some of the Regulation Issues we are Facing. I highly suggest they heed the Advise that was given to you here...

Unfortunately those tobacco companies are some of the players against us in our fight to keep our freedom of choice available.

There is a whole section of the forum dedicated to what is going on. Here is an eye opening thread for your reading displeasure. :(. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...da-comment-asking-its-competition-banned.html
 

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I can't vape on the bus, in a cab, restaurant, at school, work, at Walmart in other peoples faces boo hoo hoo. You can't do that with tobacco either so relax. You don't need to be puffing your triple D sized flashlight mod everywhere.

I think you just Posted in the Wrong Thread.

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Yes I'm new Here, however I wasn't born last night and I'm more then aware of issues being Debated, but nothing has been set in stone. Of course if your over paranoid you can always make your own liquid or buy now in bulk.

I have been making my Own e-Liquids for Years. And I'm not Really Worried about Me. I have Everything I need for the Next 7 or 8 Years or so.

I'm Concerned about the Person who Hasn't even Switched Yet. Because I would like to see Him/Her have the Same Chance of Getting Off Cigarettes as I did when I Switched.

And I know that the Coming Regulation Could Greatly Diminish their Chances of Successfully Quitting Cigarettes.

So Once Again. Why are you so Sure that there Will Always be Bottled e-Liquids?
 
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I'm sure the FDA will take the tobaccos suggestions seriously, LOL, get real. Have you seen laws forbidding you from vaping in your home or owning e liquid?? Of course not. Let them have meetings and hearings, and blah, blah, blah. Take it easy no ones kicking in your door for vaping.

I Really Don't Think you Understand what the FDA Can and Can Not Do.
 
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