Here because of ban - another pending?

[silkyfurz]

A couple months ago, I'd never heard of e-cigs, but now I've been happily vaping for about 6 weeks. I've smoked for decades, and about 3 years ago, our state raised the tax on analogs. Unwilling to pay $55 a carton, I discovered I could order cigs online from the Indian Nations, tax-free, for about $22/carton. Life was good - then Obama signed a bill to ban shipping cigs via USPS, UPS, Fedex, etc, putting the Native American industry out of business, and the smokers destined to pay the high cost of state-taxed tobacco products. I stocked-piled 25 cartons in June, of which I have about 21 left.

Then someone told me about e-cigs. Yippee! I have several models, the Riva being my favorite so far, and have been happily vaping ever since. I've been smoking 2 analogs a day - compared to 2+ packs a couple months ago. I no longer cough or rattle. Again, life is good.

Now I read about PayPal dumping e-cig vendors, and many states considering banning e-cigs. They want to ban e-cigs, but not state-purchased analogs. Smoking is okay as long as the states collect huge tax dollars? I can buy analogs for $55 a carton, but if e-cigs are banned, they're gone forever,right?

 

[Vchick]

I'm a relative noob, but with forums like this, probably not likely! Thank god!

 

[BuzzKill]

This has been discussed many times , we have Ban scares every once in a while , YES if the State or Feds cannot TAX them then they will try to ban them so some company comes along and does a study and pays the FDA $678 billion dollars to own the market.

However they cant ban batteries or Nicotine ( analogs have nicotine , well they could attempt to ban LIQUID nic ? ) atomizers are aromatherapy devices so is the juice , its not a .... its a Waterpipe ! right .

anyhow do some searches there is a ton of info here.

 

[Vchick]

Hey Buzz, heard your pv was mia, any luck finding it?

 

[BCB]

A very similar scenario got me to e-cigs. Smoked 46 years. Then the PACT act ruined my snail-mail supply. Somehow found out about e-cigs (still don't know how that happened). Tried them. Liked them. Had a panic attack when I discovered these e-cigs really work and now THEY are gonna be banned? Scheesch. So I spent the next 2 solid months reading this forum and stocked up on snus, do-it-yourself supplies to make my own juice, extra blank cartomisers, etc. (I still have 2 cartons of cigarettes in my cupboard).

Now I'm at a place where I think at least I have enough stuff to last a few years and I'm hoping things will have settled down to my advantage by the time I have no supplies left.

Secretly, I have no desire to make my own juice, just like I have no desire to make dinner, but if you get hungry enough, you manage to do it (most of the time).

 

[BuzzKill]

Hey Buzz, heard your pv was mia, any luck finding it?

no not yet ?? I will find it eventually I think ??

The USA will never outlaw regular cigs so there will always be a source of Nicotine.

 

[piratecaptainbob]

A couple months ago, I'd never heard of e-cigs, but now I've been happily vaping for about 6 weeks. I've smoked for decades, and about 3 years ago, our state raised the tax on analogs. Unwilling to pay $55 a carton, I discovered I could order cigs online from the Indian Nations, tax-free, for about $22/carton. Life was good - then Obama signed a bill to ban shipping cigs via USPS, UPS, Fedex, etc, putting the Native American industry out of business, and the smokers destined to pay the high cost of state-taxed tobacco products. I stocked-piled 25 cartons in June, of which I have about 21 left.

something funny...a few years back i did the mail order cig thing. i was living in NJ at the time. i bought 6 cartons total at 10 bucks a carton, real generic brand. the following year just before i was fortunate to get out of that state i recieved a bill for $168.00 taxes i owed to NJ for that $60.00 in mail order cigs i bought. this came to mind after you said that about the mail order cigs. anyway good luck and welcome.

 

[silkyfurz]

OMG! How did they find you? You're scaring me. My last (stockpile) order was around $600, and before that I ordered about 10 cartons every month!

 

[Hudsonkm]

Well many of the attempted bans have ended up being just that.... Attempted.

For the most part the E-Cigarette community has been pretty good about activism and getting the word out when another potential ban comes up.

For example in Illinois the bill to ban them was in it's final stages and had already been passed by the house. There was an open hearing and many e-cig users and advocacy groups such as the CASAA made the trip to Springfield to be there for it.

The following day some of the bills Senate sponsors removed their name from it and it was shelved.

The main issue here is for the community to keep on its toes and be alert for bills as soon as they pop up. In Illinois we didn't even find out about it until it had already passed the house vote, and the time-frame was pretty tight to do anything about it.

But we were able to defeat it through a combined effort of E-Cigarette users even beyond just those that live in Illinois. And in this case its also important to keep in mind that the house voted something like 150 for the ban and 5 against it. And we were still able to stop it.

 

[kylewinther]

no i am sure there will be some black market vendors that sell electronic cigarettes under the radar. I dont think people who started vaping could live without them