Hit it or Quit it - Butterscotch Pudding (SR)

[Kent Brooks]

I totally meant to order some first thing this morning, but it slipped my mind. 50ml on the way now! #15537

Da pudding is on the way yo.

Goes to work re-coiling kayfun.

Order 15549. And in continuing my tradition of the last 4 orders I've placed in the last 7 days, another bottle of Frenilla.

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Mine is on the way! Very much looking forward to this one. Butterscotch pudding is one of my very favorite treats...even though I'm severely lactose intolerant. I'm looking forward to all the flavor and none of the side effects!

Thank you kindly for the orders folks!~

 

[Kent Brooks]

Worth every penny!
Also- even with the price increase it is still less expensive than many other artisan brands. We have just been spoiled because Nicoticket prices their juices so low.
I was spending $10 a day smoking, so for me, I can justify the price easily.

It's affordable, especially if you figure out how much we would have spent on analogs (that's what I tell myself, anyway...lol)

I've spent over $1000 more in the past 8 months on goodies than I would've on analogs.

That said , my self inflicted lack of current money (and the borderline debt it is putting me into) is totally worth it for these flavors and devices that keep me off analogs. .

Clark, stop with the great new flavors for 1 week so I can save a little

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I agree with the "worth every penny" part. I'm all for Capitalism, and I think the maker of an outstanding product deserves good compensation. No doubt. But I wouldn't go as far as to say this is cheaper than many artisan brands. This pricing puts us right up there in the very top tier. Save for Five Pawns who, in my humble opinion, are way overpriced. But hey, its working for them I guess, so go with what works. They just wont ever get my business.

(Caveat emptor)This is not a plug for another crafter. However, I recently discovered a new artisan line of 7 or 8 mind blowing juices that come in a glass bottle and the cap is dipped in wax. $22 for a 30ml. The quality of their juice, and the unnecessary packaging, put them in the artisan boutique category, and yet its cheaper than todays run.

Forgive me.... I'm as pro Nicoticket as one can be. Honestly, I'm like a virtual walking billboard. But I've been looking forward to this juice for a while and, as with the guy above, my wife saw the price and busted out the veto card. I know Clark said "health is priceless", but an unhappy wife is about as unhealthy as it gets. And there's no way I'm going to buy a 15ml of something I know I'm going to fall in love with just to not be able to reorder it anyway.... because it will be gone. Cant put myself through it...

Anyway... I honestly hope you guys enjoy it, I'm sure it will be astonishing. Vape some for me....

Yes it is killing me also. My wife loves butterscotch pudding and I know she would like this but I am in the same boat. Was so excited to try this, was bouncing off the wall to try this. Have been talking about it since I heard about it. One of the biggest attractors to Nicoticket was gourmet juices at great prices and this puts it into elite pricing. I am sure it is worth every penny, I am just really disappointed.

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Sorry to disappoint on the pricing for the BSP short run. It's a balancing act. The pricing is in line with what we have done in the past on extremely short, pre-steeped runs. (Be Mine, Raz Cup, etc) Short run, crazy demand, and prices increasing on nearly everything it takes to produce liquid. PG/VG prices are up 17% on increased demand and shipping costs, Nicotine Prices are up %12 liquid nicotine manufacturers are into using leaves and stems (not just the droppings from mainstream tobacco product manufacturing). Flavoring hasn't increased, yet, but I am confident that will go up, also, (in the wake of additional testing requirements to ensure flavoring is "certified safe to vape.") We get some economy of scale benefits (buying in bulk on higher volume)... lately, we're getting squeezed on all sides. I think the entire industry (vendors/consumers) are in for a shock. The days of 40c/ml liquid are numbered, unfortunately. Aside from materials, the cost of assays, retention of batch samples, a minimum of a class 8 clean-room (with associated maintenance) - we are potentially staring at 4.5 million dollar investment per flavor just to exist in the post regulatory environment. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

 

[brookj1986]

Sorry to disappoint on the pricing for the BSP short run. It's a balancing act. The pricing is in line with what we have done in the past on extremely short, pre-steeped runs. (Be Mine, Raz Cup, etc) Short run, crazy demand, and prices increasing on nearly everything it takes to produce liquid. PG/VG prices are up 17% on increased demand and shipping costs, Nicotine Prices are up %12 liquid nicotine manufacturers are into using leaves and stems (not just the droppings from mainstream tobacco product manufacturing). Flavoring hasn't increased, yet, but I am confident that will go up, also, (in the wake of additional testing requirements to ensure flavoring is "certified safe to vape.") We get some economy of scale benefits (buying in bulk on higher volume)... lately, we're getting squeezed on all sides. I think the entire industry (vendors/consumers) are in for a shock. The days of 40c/ml liquid are numbered, unfortunately. Aside from materials, the cost of assays, retention of batch samples, a minimum of a class 8 clean-room (with associated maintenance) - we are potentially staring at 4.5 million dollar investment per flavor just to exist in the post regulatory environment. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Not upset about the price, it makes sense. Just upset that every flavor you make I want a lot of.

I've spent far more on devices and rda/rba/other toppers than I have on juice. Which makes vaping NT even better! Keep up the great work and I'll keep buying. (i may have to get another credit card, but I'll keep ordering )

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[distortoblotto]

Don't mind paying a little more with all the work you put into this one.

Just keep those fine juices flowing Clark!...............

 

[chainvapor]

Just ordered this. I am going to hate myself for it though. To order something this expensive knowing it will be awesome and I will not be able to get more..........like shoving sticks under the finger nails!!! TORTURE!! But you only live once right? Cannot wait to try it, but I am going to try really hard to make this a "once in awhile" treat. (Yeah right, like that's going to happen!!)

CV

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

 

[brookj1986]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

Good question. I know my reasoning. Some of these SR are repeated fairly regularly. If you buy enough to last between runs, it's not really an SR in my opinion.

Other reason, I'd rather have a 50 ml bottle of a flavor I fall in love with than to never have tried it at all... Better to have loved and lost then to never loved at all mentality.

If you had the opportunity to have a little bit of a super rare chocolate (or something along those lines.. Rare/expensive bottle of wine), knowing that you'd only have it once but at least have a chance to experience greatness, would you really pass it up? I know I wouldn't!

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[rodoman1916]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

Definitely a quandary there.... I've been wondering the same thing with the ever-looming drop of the banana flavor. I dare not buy it because of exactly what you said. I've got to find one readily accessible. For me, this would be like having a long distance relationship with a wife. Aint gonna work...

And Clark... don't dare apologize. You didn't do a thing. Its just the frustrating state of the union that we, as consumers, struggle to cope with. I can completely understand what you're doing, and support you.

 

[kinggirl]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

I'll agree with what Brook said as well. For me personally it works out well. If I buy a 50ml bottle, chances are at some point I get a little tired of that flavor anyway and set it aside. If you have enough flavors in rotation then you get to sample something really great and hopefully you won't burn through it so fast that you can come back to it. "it's better to have loved and lost, then to never have loved at all!"

 

[Kent Brooks]

Not upset about the price, it makes sense. Just upset that every flavor you make I want a lot of.

I've spent far more on devices and rda/rba/other toppers than I have on juice. Which makes vaping NT even better! Keep up the great work and I'll keep buying. (i may have to get another credit card, but I'll keep ordering )

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I don't feel like I need to justify the price, honestly - the R&D time I have in this one easily justifies the increase... I'm okay with subsidizing the "standard flavors" with a few short runs in the persistent effort to fight price increases. Going back over my history, it's self-evident to everyone who looks that I fight hard to keep prices reasonable. Some fluctuation is inevitable - the only alternative is an across the board cost increase... some might argue that we have it backwards (lower cost permanent flavors, higher cost short runs)... I mean, I probably *should* charge more for the award winners and less for the "not time-tested" flavors... but in my mind, I want to keep ADVs as reasonable as I can. The one off stuff, short-runs... those are just one-offs, snacks, oddities, etc.

 

[Kent Brooks]

Just ordered this. I am going to hate myself for it though. To order something this expensive knowing it will be awesome and I will not be able to get more..........like shoving sticks under the finger nails!!! TORTURE!! But you only live once right? Cannot wait to try it, but I am going to try really hard to make this a "once in awhile" treat. (Yeah right, like that's going to happen!!)

CV

Heya CV - thank you kindly for the order my friend!~

 

[Kent Brooks]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

I went to Chicago for the SFATA conference last week... it was a great trip. We stopped into a small family owned and operated pizza joint called Pizanos. The pizza was the best I've ever had. Do I wish I could have it every day? Absolutely! Do I know with certainty that I will have it again? Unfortunately not - the time and the place was right... the company was good... the server was extremely attentive... the guy in the back got his tax return the day before and threw on some extra cheese... and the Cubs beat the White Sox on Cinco de Mayo. Knowing that I may never get another slice of that pie, should I have hit McDonalds instead (since I know I can get it any time I want?) Not a chance.

 

[brookj1986]

I went to Chicago for the SFATA conference last week... it was a great trip. We stopped into a small family owned and operated pizza joint called Pizanos. The pizza was the best I've ever had. Do I wish I could have it every day? Absolutely! Do I know with certainty that I will have it again? Unfortunately not - the time and the place was right... the company was good... the server was extremely attentive... the guy in the back got his tax return the day before and threw on some extra cheese... and the Cubs beat the White Sox on Cinco de Mayo. Knowing that I may never get another slice of that pie, should I have hit McDonalds instead (since I know I can get it any time I want?) Not a chance.

Which Pizanos? It is actually run/created by Lou Malnati's brother... Both of whom are related to the creator of the original Pizzeria Uno. Small pizza world in Chicago

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[Kent Brooks]

Which Pizanos? It is actually run/created by Lou Malnati's brother... Both of whom are related to the creator of the original Pizzeria Uno. Small pizza world in Chicago

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In the loop - we stayed at the downtown Sheraton so it was a short Limo ride and from home base and we were itching for some killer pie. Uno is good pie but it's a little bit more "commercialized" that we were looking for... Pizanos is more of a local favorite as opposed to a tourist destination... that's just how we roll.

 

[brookj1986]

I don't feel like I need to justify the price, honestly - the R&D time I have in this one easily justifies the increase... I'm okay with subsidizing the "standard flavors" with a few short runs in the persistent effort to fight price increases. Going back over my history, it's self-evident to everyone who looks that I fight hard to keep prices reasonable. Some fluctuation is inevitable - the only alternative is an across the board cost increase... some might argue that we have it backwards (lower cost permanent flavors, higher cost short runs)... I mean, I probably *should* charge more for the award winners and less for the "not time-tested" flavors... but in my mind, I want to keep ADVs as reasonable as I can. The one off stuff, short-runs... those are just one-offs, snacks, oddities, etc.

Clark, I hope you aren't thinking I'm asking for a justification or have any qualms. The price hasn't bothered me at all. I also believe you don't need to justify the prices at all Clark! I have zero complaints... My 3 orders since May 7th should make it evident.

The flavor quality speaks for itself and I think is very reasonably priced for the quality, time and effort that goes in. Keep it up, you'll never hear me complain as long as you keep producing!


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[motabrownie]

Ill take quality juice at any price over cheap artificial tasting juice all day everyday!

 

[Kent Brooks]

Clark, I hope you aren't thinking I'm asking for a justification or have any qualms. The price hasn't bothered me at all. I also believe you don't need to justify the prices at all Clark! I have zero complaints... My 3 orders since May 7th should make it evident.

The flavor quality speaks for itself and I think is very reasonably priced for the quality, time and effort that goes in. Keep it up, you'll never hear me complain as long as you keep producing!


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Oh, no worries at all... thank you for the vote of confidence regardless. I'm as sensitive to the pricing as all of you - I'm working to keep it reasonable by negotiating with vendors daily. We'll keep it 100%.

 

[Kent Brooks]

Ill take quality juice at any price over cheap artificial tasting juice all day everyday!

You and me both brother mota.

 

[distortoblotto]

I submitted this question to Clark but I'm impatient in waiting for a response so I'll ask here. What is the point in ordering a "SR" flavor if it's not going to made anymore after it's first run? That's kinda like taking a kid into a candy store saying you can smell but you can't touch or eat it. I don't get why I would want to buy a flavor, end up liking it but know that I can never buy it again. Can someone chime in in here?

Thanks

Better to have tasted a little rather than not tasted at all!

Think of it as a rare old scotch that has just become unobtainium.

One just has to savor every drop.

 

[juicybeaver]

Woohoo! Order #15656!
Wife and I are looking forward to the new flavours. And picking up some PBC for a friend at work!