How About A Boycott From Buying At Starbucks?
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If there's a rule or law that allows me to not pay a tax, what do YOU think I'm going to do? Pay something I don't need to? Let's get real here. The entire purpose of going into business is to make money. If there's a law that allows me to not pay a tax, do you think I'm going to be daft enough to pay something I don't need to pay? Seriously?!!
Is that Starbucks corporate policy...or is it a local ordinance
Maybe it IS corporate policy...
Starbucks, other businesses ban e-cigarettes
But...just as me carrying my CHL...if they don't want me to do a certain activity on their property...well...me and my money will go elsewhere...
As with any privately owned store...they can set policy how they want, it is THEIR right after all...I have every right to take my money elsewhere
Plus...I am a every day plain Jane cup-o-joe and don't like 4bucks fru-fru coffee anyways (me and my Keurig do just fine!)
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In your working life to date-how much tax have you paid ?
Have you used your vote to any positive extent ?
And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
If there's a rule that allows me to not pay a tax, or take a deduction, you bet your sweet bippy I take it. As for my vote, if you mean do I vote with the clueless who think corporations are evil entities that are the scourge of the earth, no, I do not. I vote for what's best for my country, not for the selfish who think the government exists to cater to their every whim and desire.
If I am Allowed by my Government Not To, who should you be Mad at?
Me or My Government?
Here was me thinking that I had stumbled upon a successfull hedge fund manager who had lots of spare time to spend on a vaping forum, and you are correct Retired1, you vote for the selfish government that exists to cater for their every whim and desire-regardless of how you vote.
I patronize local coffee shops rather than Starbucks, for a multitude of reasons.
However, the fact that they're anti-vaper is just one more thing that confirms my decision. Screw em.
However, the fact that they're anti-vaper is just one more thing that confirms my decision. Screw em.
Thank you my friend, it means a lot to me that you understand the power of the group, and vapers are a powerful group, we just need to organize it to protect ourselves from the very thing we stopped, being put in with smokers in a little area when we are out, or not even being able to enter property like Lowes, I never knew that but now Lowes is on my list of no go's.
I have always had common courtesy even when I was smoking cigarettes, but your indignant attitude about not being able to vape outside the store is just like ex-smokers with their rants, I don't want to be forced to be put in an area of second hand smoke when all the studies have shown that there is no danger in second hand vape smoke, and what makes us special is that we took the time and wisdom to save our lives and now with defeatist attitudes like yours, we will be forced to inhale dangerous smoke from cigarettes because you feel like we have no right to smoke our vapes outside the store too, FYI, everyone that smells my vape smoke loves the smell and always asks me what flavor I am vaping today!
No offense, noslacker, but quoting the person you are responding to may help others make sense of who and what you are actually responding to in your posts.
I don't hang out at starbucks... but I do buy beverages there, fairly regularly.
But on my quick stops there... I vape like I normally would...
I vape as I walk up... usually exhaling as I enter the door.
I vape as soon as I exit the door.
No one has said anything to me thus far... and if anyone does... um... I'd probably just laugh.
I mean what are they going to say?
"hey, I know you put it away but you can't use that here"
"hey you, guy that is already getting in your car... you can't use that here"
LOL
It may help that the starbucks I frequent, feature public sidewalks or parking lots that run within 10 feet of their front door... so their 20' policy is unenforceable.
But should I be stopped and scolded for not wanting to die. I will stop frequenting THAT Starbucks... because as it stands now, even if this is corporate policy... it's not universally enforced or even enforceable in many locations.
But on my quick stops there... I vape like I normally would...
I vape as I walk up... usually exhaling as I enter the door.
I vape as soon as I exit the door.
No one has said anything to me thus far... and if anyone does... um... I'd probably just laugh.
I mean what are they going to say?
"hey, I know you put it away but you can't use that here"
"hey you, guy that is already getting in your car... you can't use that here"
LOL
It may help that the starbucks I frequent, feature public sidewalks or parking lots that run within 10 feet of their front door... so their 20' policy is unenforceable.
But should I be stopped and scolded for not wanting to die. I will stop frequenting THAT Starbucks... because as it stands now, even if this is corporate policy... it's not universally enforced or even enforceable in many locations.
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In all the years I've been vaping ... and I openly vape pretty much everywhere ...
No one has ever approached me even suggestion I shouldn't be vaping.
I guess everyone who might disapprove ... can read my body language
and chooses to avoid the pain.
No one has ever approached me even suggestion I shouldn't be vaping.
I guess everyone who might disapprove ... can read my body language
and chooses to avoid the pain.
In all the years I've been vaping ... and I openly vape pretty much everywhere ...
No one has ever approached me even suggestion I shouldn't be vaping.
I guess everyone who might disapprove ... can read my body language
and chooses to avoid the pain.
Jack Reacher is here !
Not the absurd portrayal in the forgettable Tom Cruise movie, but the "real" character from the book series ...
If you have the power to project that "mess with me at your own peril" vibe, I envy you ...
When vaping in public ...
I don't act any different than if I were chewing gum. I'm not constantly
looking around making eye contact with strangers worried about who sees me
and wondering if strangers approve or not.
I don't act any different than if I were chewing gum. I'm not constantly
looking around making eye contact with strangers worried about who sees me
and wondering if strangers approve or not.
When I read posts, I often look at the location of the poster.In all the years I've been vaping ... and I openly vape pretty much everywhere ...
No one has ever approached me even suggestion I shouldn't be vaping.
I guess everyone who might disapprove ... can read my body language
and chooses to avoid the pain.
And from reading this forum for years, I have come to a conclusion....
Missouri and Mississippi vapers seem to have very few issues.
And Florida and California vapers seem to have more issues than others.
I would love to do a geographical survey of vaping.
I would also love to own a million dollar home in La Jolla.
I agree locality is a variable.
One of the best forums to get a feel for this variable is
the E-cigarettes in Public forum.
One of the best forums to get a feel for this variable is
the E-cigarettes in Public forum.
I've been reading and occasionally posting in the E-cigarettes in Public forum
for years. The reason I was drawn to that forum is because the threads
there give me a lot of information about vapers in general as well as helping
me keep my fingers on the pulse of our movement.
One of the interesting topics often discussed is the apprehension of vaping
Super Vape Machines in public ... Cig-a-likes ... not as big of an issue.
Back to the topic of "geographical area" ...
A few months ago ... a vaper in California posted the public tolerance
can change base just on locality within the state. He mentioned in the city
where he lives ... no big problem ... however, 20 miles to the north ...
Very Little Tolerance to e-smoking.
for years. The reason I was drawn to that forum is because the threads
there give me a lot of information about vapers in general as well as helping
me keep my fingers on the pulse of our movement.
One of the interesting topics often discussed is the apprehension of vaping
Super Vape Machines in public ... Cig-a-likes ... not as big of an issue.
Back to the topic of "geographical area" ...
A few months ago ... a vaper in California posted the public tolerance
can change base just on locality within the state. He mentioned in the city
where he lives ... no big problem ... however, 20 miles to the north ...
Very Little Tolerance to e-smoking.
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