How is vaping cheaper?

[TJQ86]

shorty startup kit- 56.45 with ship

2 boxes of carts- 18.94

30ml wowboy juice- 19.33

passthrough- 26.70

30ml smilin- 17.95

pack of carts menthol- 14.84

=154.21

If I bought cigs everyday @ $8 since I started(June 10th), that would be $136

Now maybe it is cheaper in the LONG run, but wow it feels like I spend so much on it, and the average smoker is not used to spending larger amounts on their habit in one sitting.

For a few orders I probably could have consolodated for shippong, but it was a typical "noob" mistake, wanting to try something AFTER you already placed an order lol.

So tell me how it's cheaper?

 

[LilMew]

My husband and I each smoked about 3 cartons of analogs a month... in Seattle that equals $360!!! Now we vape about one carto a day, so about $120 a month. I'm saving a ton!

 

[Toker]

Once you find the setup that is right for you, then all you'll have to order is juice and cartos.

Occasionally you'll have to replace a battery here and there, but in the long run you'll mainly just be replacing juice and cartos.

You also have to think about the health issues with smoking analogs, compared to vaping. Lower health issues = lower medical bills.

Unfortunately, I'm still in the early phase of vaping, so it's costing an arm and a leg.

 

[FlipnOut]

Yeah, it definately settles out after some time. I've saved somewhere around $700 since I got started, and I feel tons better too!

 

[Adrenalynn]

For some period of time, it was established by annecdote that a pack a day average smoker was knocking down 2-2.5ml of juice average/day.

At present, "Wow Juice" at 30ml is priced around $0.42/ml

Juice cost is $1.04/day nominally

Blank cartomizers are currenly $1.79ea. Nominally a pack of blanks should be lasting at least a month. $0.30/day

A battery is typically good for around 120 days. 17.50 / 120 = $0.14/day

A charger is typically pretty well-lived. Probably a good year on the AC charger or more. Call it six months just for fun.

13.50 / 180 = $0.075 / day

That's all you really need, but let's go ahead and toss another battery in there since it's prudent.

$1.70 /day < $8.00 /day, DELTA: $6.30/day.

Any inability to control your spending habits needs to be addressed outside of this series of calculation.

As far as: "the average smoker is not used to spending larger amounts on their habit in one sitting" - I don't know, I see a lot of carton sales at Ye Ol' Wallyshire.

Regardless, I blame our educational system for any inability to calculate Return On Investment, Opportunity Cost, Longterm Cost of Operation, and Catastrophic Losses

 

[mmcall12]

Thanks, Lynn very will said.. done a real nice job.

 

[TJQ86]

did this guy really take a jab at my education? wtf is wrong with this world?

Bottom line..yes it is a turn off to a new person because of the start up costs!

 

[Adrenalynn]

did this guy really take a jab at my education? wtf is wrong with this world?

Bottom line..yes it is a turn off to a new person because of the start up costs!

This "guy" isn't.

You did inquire as to "how is vaping cheaper". Have you found flaw with my calculations or premise? Please detail.

As far as "it is a turn off to a new person" - was that an n=1 sample?

 

[v1John]

I should not have bought the Pcc kit either, and shipping fees do make things expensive.

There is no flaw in the math, but it did point out that the Pcc kit was not worth it for myself either.

 

[TJQ86]

This "guy" isn't.

You did inquire as to "how is vaping cheaper". Have you found flaw with my calculations or premise? Please detail.

As far as "it is a turn off to a new person" - was that an n=1 sample?

I admitted in the OP that it is long term, but short term probably not. When does anyone in the U.S think long term anyways? Do you know how much debt the U.S is in? do you think they were thinking long term? NO.

When I go to buy a pack of cigs, i'm spending $8, when I place an order on V4l, it's $20 minimum.


You know what though, i'm already in a bad mood today, I don't need to get banned from these forums..So please do not respond to me. You're not worth it.

 

[Adrenalynn]

 

[mmcall12]

I hope you get in a better mood here let on this, if you don't drink then just think of your drink you like most. I love this dancing banana hope he will make you smile like he does me...

 

[CatMommy]

Any inability to control your spending habits needs to be addressed outside of this series of calculation.

Did you write that about me????

 

[Above God]

Once you find the setup that is right for you, then all you'll have to order is juice and cartos.

Occasionally you'll have to replace a battery here and there, but in the long run you'll mainly just be replacing juice and cartos.

You also have to think about the health issues with smoking analogs, compared to vaping. Lower health issues ...

Unfortunately, I'm still in the early phase of vaping, so it's costing an arm and a leg.

the health factor makes it worth i to me, even if i am spending more...

my kids health as well and people around me that choose not to smoke..

 

[v1John]

the health factor makes it worth i to me, even if i am spending more...

my kids health as well and people around me that choose not to smoke..

But the thing is that gratitude and spending needlessly are two different things. Otherwise, big pharma could walk into the party and take over ecigs and start selling them at the same cost that medicine would have charged you to save your life.

 

[glowgirl]

I understand the sticker shock. When my husband and I first started we spent $300 in the first month. Now that we have all of our hardware down and found the juices we like we spend around $60 per month. It saves us a lot but the learning curve is hard and expensive. Try not to worry about the cost too much and focus on all the other benefits your getting. The pay off is worth it if it helps you kick cigs.

Sorry your having a bad day!

 

[WOW]

I'm also fairly new and the start-up was mind-boggling.

I pace myself by the week and try to catch the sales.

I went through hell trying to learn how to refill to save a little on cartos but, it is possible to spend $30-$40/wk on supplies and if you would buy a carton of analogs, with tax, you'd spend a tad more to a ton more, depending where you live. Cartons of analogs are close to $50 and up in LA w/ 8 packs. If you were smoking more than a pack/day a carton wouldn't last you a week.

If you click here http://vapor4life.slavetothemachine.net/ it brings up a page where you can use their calculator and make your own sig, like you have, which initially shows when you break even from the start up costs, then keeps track of how much you save. You can also set it back a month to see where you'll be in month on the test page and keep it accurate in your sig.

If you add your 1st e-juice stocking order to the start up number, it will take a little longer to break even but, depending on how much you smoked and the cost of analogs where you live, you should eventually see a savings.

Mine's a little messed up but, it also lets you redo it anytime you need to.

It took close to month for me to see it 'break even', about as long as it took me to get the refilling down (it's a trade off - refill or empty ashtrays and clean up filthy ashes) and decide on the juice I could vape regularly. The latter will help you not buy everything in sight & start stocking. I'm at that point and getting it under control.

There's no way to put a monetary price on getting 4000 chemicals out of your system but, you might also want to go through your closet and add in all the clothes with burn holes, add in all the sprays and stuff to hide the smell of smoke, burns in carpeting and car seats, etc., and you should feel better about the start up cost fairly fast.

It is hard to see in the first week. Try working with your sig thing- adjust it as needed - it helped me alot. I was cranky the first week too. When you find the flav you like and get used to it all and can only focus on vaping, that will also help you feel better.

 

[dreamchildwest]

I am seven months into this amazing journey and yes, I did drop quite a bit getting my toys in a row during those first couple of months. However, I am now spending WAAAAY less each month than I would be if I were still smoking.

In the beginning, I also kept thinking, "I'll NEVER break even on this!" But I didn't care. It was so worth it.

Don't forget: Cigarettes are consumed and they're gone. Passthroughs and batteries last. Juices last. Your money goes a lot farther with vaping. And any time I spend refilling cartos...I probably spent about that much time (not to mention the gas I burned) driving to purchase cigarettes. And all those breath mints I bought...

Another point to consider: It's CHEAPER than chest x-rays!

Just trying to encourage you here.

 

[WOW]

Oops! Here's the link to the sig generator -

V4L Sig Generator

 

[Adrenalynn]

Did you write that about me????

Naw, it looks good on you, CM!