I can't believe they can do this!!
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Well the resounding opinion seems to be I was wrong (and that I'm awful and a problem for the entire vapinng community the world over). The only reason I was under the impression that you could vape anywhere in the first place was because the owner of the Santa Monica Vape shop I go to had told me and several other patrons that last time I was there. I was by no means rude or obnoxious like some commenters continue to insist. I stopped, said sorry, gave a ridiculously large tip and just asked why it wasn't allowed I thought it wasn't prohibited anywhere
I did comply and I did not challenge the rule, I just asked why it was in place. I don't understand all the drama being attached to the situation, are people that against asking why a rule is in place? My god, what kind of world do we live in where simply asking the rationale behind a rule is met with such disdain and criticism?
For future reference, it's usually not the best idea to come onto a forum you're unfamiliar with and post a thread asking for opinions on your own behavior. Unless you're prepared for the fact that, more often than not, you will not like the responses that you get.
I forgot to add there was a dessert for six bucks. It's like a bread pudding. That's the only thing that's still really good. The burgers there used to be the best id had in la but sadly that's just not the case anymore.
I'm totally fine people saying I was wrong and I can accept that and admit I made a mistake, as long as it's done with logic, courtesy, and rationale.
Ya, most of those are saying I was rude and didn't listen and that's just not true
So I went to pick up a very late dinner from a restaurant I'm quite fond of (stout in Hollywood. I don't mind putting them on blast bc they have this moronic policy in place.) and was using my ecig very sparingly mind you, in total I took two drags the whole time I was picking up my to go order. Just some background information: it was already three am and there was absolutely no one in the restaurant besides a couple of the staff. The bouncer told me in a gruff tone you can't do that here. So I kindly and politely responded that I don't think an establishment is allowed to prohibit the use of ecigs and that you can use them like pretty much EVERYWHERE. He just repeated back to me the same thing like a roided out answering machine,"I don't know man that's what my boss told me not allowed to do that here" then the matrices chimed in repeating the same thing he said, it was like conversing with a bunch of mindless parrots. I said, legally I dunno if that's ok. So she responded with distinctly overt attitude at this point,"well LEGALLY, we are allowed to refuse business to who ever we want so ya" (with a smug .....y look slapped on her face). Again I reiterate, there was not even a single patron present there so I dunno why they were being so obnoxious after I just dropped about thirty bucks for fries and a burger. What is the world coming to, I feel like an x-men in professor Xavier's institute being discriminated against by an ignorant world of haters who need to be educated. Tell me what you think, was I wrong, being a ...., I'm interested to hear others opinions.
Bottom line once told they didn't allow vaping you should've just taken the high road, apologized and left it at that.
I went to see Desolation of Smaug last Sat afternoon- first thing I did was approach the manger and ask about their vaping policy. He said it was perfectly fine to vape in the lobby but not in the Theater and I was okay with that. He also stated pending government regulation could change that policy. As I turned to leave he gave me 4 discount passes and said he wished all vapers were as polite and understanding as I was. OT...Thank Gawd the tickets were free as the movie sucked
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Private Businesses are to be treated like someone's home you're a guest in. Period.
Vape until asked not to, then respectfully apologize if a situation comes up. Pretty easy method. Also, the owner of your local Santa Monica vape shop may not know all of the rules put forth by all local businesses in the area. If you're feeling extra polite, ask before you vape. The fact that nobody was in the establishment holds 0 water (or ml of juice
) to the rule set forth by the bouncer or the owner. If I were you, I would go to the local market and get yourself a potato and a pound of ground beef. Much cheaper method to getting your burger and fries fix on. I could spend that 30 bucks on a new mod and have myself a 1/2 lb monster burger with some oven baked fries...
As a rule of thumb, be wary of asking opinions on a situation when you are on the internet; you never will enjoy the outcome. This thread is a poster-child for that exact fact.
Vape until asked not to, then respectfully apologize if a situation comes up. Pretty easy method. Also, the owner of your local Santa Monica vape shop may not know all of the rules put forth by all local businesses in the area. If you're feeling extra polite, ask before you vape. The fact that nobody was in the establishment holds 0 water (or ml of juice
) to the rule set forth by the bouncer or the owner. If I were you, I would go to the local market and get yourself a potato and a pound of ground beef. Much cheaper method to getting your burger and fries fix on. I could spend that 30 bucks on a new mod and have myself a 1/2 lb monster burger with some oven baked fries... As a rule of thumb, be wary of asking opinions on a situation when you are on the internet; you never will enjoy the outcome. This thread is a poster-child for that exact fact.
Omg, I did do that, I said ok I'm sorry, gave a huge tip and just asked why that was the rule bc I thought it was allowed everywhere. I've stated this several times already in the previous commentsBottom line once told they didn't allow vaping you should've just taken the high road, apologized and left it at that.
I went to see Desolation of Smaug last Sat afternoon- first thing I did was approach the manger and ask about their vaping policy. He said it was perfectly fine to vape in the lobby but not in the Theater and I was okay with that. He also stated pending government regulation could change that policy. As I turned to leave he gave me 4 discount passes and said he wished all vapers were as polite and understanding as I was. OT...Thank Gawd the tickets were free as the movie sucked
I did apologize and stop for the I don't know how manieth timePrivate Businesses are to be treated like someone's home you're a guest in. Period.
Vape until asked not to, then respectfully apologize if a situation comes up. Pretty easy method. Also, the owner of your local Santa Monica vape shop may not know all of the rules put forth by all local businesses in the area. If you're feeling extra polite, ask before you vape. The fact that nobody was in the establishment holds 0 water (or ml of juice
As a rule of thumb, be wary of asking opinions on a situation when you are on the internet; you never will enjoy the outcome. This thread is a poster-child for that exact fact.
I did apologize I did stop. My only gripe was how rudely he addressed the situation from the get-go
Bro you have like what thirty more posts than I do, what did you start in the forum an hour before me? Please don't lecture me or talk down to me, especially when you're basically as new posting here as I am
Hey, apparantly it was closing time, staff were tired and wanted to get home, and manners may not have been on the top of their list considering these circumstances. The bouncer may have been gruff, but he was to the point. The gesture that the girl made was probably uncalled for. Blow the entire situation off. There are far more important things to get your dander up about than this.
I didn't say you did not apologize. I'm just giving you my rule of thumb when I vape in private establishments. No worries.
Also, I think this thread has been beaten to death. sahsah if I may suggest this establishment. It seems a bit more frugal in prices than 30 bones for beef and potatoes. http://www.holeinthewallburgerjoint.com/
No need to get disrespectful to the other posters in the thread, or members of the forum just because of their post count. Many here have lurked countless hours before posting. Be respectful. (79th post and counting)
I'm not speaking specifically to this forum - this goes for any online community. My post count in this forum has nothing to do with this. It's valid advice.
Welcome to ECF, and as you now know vaping can be prohibited by businesses on their premises. Not to add fuel to the fire, but in your first post at first read you did sound confrontational, and apparently I am not the only who got that impression. Which is why you got the answers you did. In later posts your tone seems to have changed, I hope that you will stay around ECF and do some reading and realize what a great resource it is for us all.
The shop you bought your gear at should have never told you that you can vape anywhere. This is simply not the case.
Here is a link to CASAA, a group that is trying very hard to advance the acceptance of vaping, CASAA
Stick around, read and learn.
The shop you bought your gear at should have never told you that you can vape anywhere. This is simply not the case.
Here is a link to CASAA, a group that is trying very hard to advance the acceptance of vaping, CASAA
Stick around, read and learn.
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