So ... what is the topic at the moment ?
I thought it was someone's underwear but I might be in the wrong thread.
I don't use a ProVari,
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I thought it was someone's underwear but I might be in the wrong thread.
Zoe never said why her underwear makes her better than everyone else other than we can all assume it's because she's wearing them but I digress.....
I don't use a Provari, but...
I've been following this thread because they are on my radar for future gear purchase. At the last neighborhood Christmas party, I went out on the hosts deck to have a vape with the smokers. The previous year I would have been pretty much just stationed out there chain smoking
Well, something was dfferent this year. There was me and another vaper sitting with three smokers. So he and I got to talking. I had my Inferno with a Protank 2 on top, and he had an APV. I asked, why did you go with the Provari? He told me his vaping history, and he had been at it for a few years...I asked about dripping, and he laughed! He said" we used to call that tail piping when the mouthpiece would break off of our XXX's(I don't remember the device)" IIRC. He said basically, "I been there, and done that". He had his APV topped with a carto tank and was happy. He didn't push anything, he just said " I tried lot's of stuff, and tossed lot's of stuff, but this thing just works". It was his second unit because he wanted the upgrade. This kind of really got my attention.
I have seen a few posts myself where someone was having a problem with an APV, and a poster would drop in and say "get a Provari". I look at those posts with a different eye now than I did before. No device is going to be a panacea. Lot's of you old timers at this game have done a ton of homework and it's cool that it is so freely shared on a forum like this. People recommend what works for them, putting any emotional attachment via put downs or fanboyism doesn't really help anyone. But from what I have seen so far by this thread, Y'all play pretty nice together overall around these parts.
Oh, and BTW, I am getting a blem when I order my Provarinati
I've been following this thread because they are on my radar for future gear purchase. At the last neighborhood Christmas party, I went out on the hosts deck to have a vape with the smokers. The previous year I would have been pretty much just stationed out there chain smoking
Well, something was dfferent this year. There was me and another vaper sitting with three smokers. So he and I got to talking. I had my Inferno with a Protank 2 on top, and he had an APV. I asked, why did you go with the Provari? He told me his vaping history, and he had been at it for a few years...I asked about dripping, and he laughed! He said" we used to call that tail piping when the mouthpiece would break off of our XXX's(I don't remember the device)" IIRC. He said basically, "I been there, and done that". He had his APV topped with a carto tank and was happy. He didn't push anything, he just said " I tried lot's of stuff, and tossed lot's of stuff, but this thing just works". It was his second unit because he wanted the upgrade. This kind of really got my attention. I have seen a few posts myself where someone was having a problem with an APV, and a poster would drop in and say "get a Provari". I look at those posts with a different eye now than I did before. No device is going to be a panacea. Lot's of you old timers at this game have done a ton of homework and it's cool that it is so freely shared on a forum like this. People recommend what works for them, putting any emotional attachment via put downs or fanboyism doesn't really help anyone. But from what I have seen so far by this thread, Y'all play pretty nice together overall around these parts.
Oh, and BTW, I am getting a blem when I order my Provarinati
Zoe never said why her underwear makes her better than everyone else other than we can all assume it's because she's wearing them but I digress.....
I have not actually seen the original post, I have seen it referenced and found it funny. Where is the original?
Doesn't hurt me at all that you or anyone else is using a Provari, I use one too. Not sure what point you're trying to make to me, but whatever it was I missed it. I'm happy to talk about all of my devices, just not in this thread.
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I don't get it. For example, I love motorcycles. All motorcycles. I can respect anyone's decision to buy a crotch rocket, a Harley, a metric, a trike, a Boss Hoss, etc. I feel the same regardless of vape equipment they choose. Maybe it's just me............. I appreciate all the designs whether $10 clones or $500 works of art. Regardless of the type whether MM's, VV, VW, etc.
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I have a provari, and now that I use gennys and drippers 99.9999% of the time, I can't let it go. I have thought a number of times about selling it off, because the only time I really use it is laying in bed at night, because lets face it its much easier to puff puff and lay it down wherever i choose, vs having to engage the locking ring, find a flat surface, check my tank level etc.... HOWEVER, why sell off something that is proven to never fail, for an iTaste and 75 bucks? I know this.. when all else fails in life, the provari will stand the test of time. lol.
No honestly if you don't have one I am sure there are comparable devices out there, but if you do and you a hybrid / GenDripper like me, why would you get rid of it for pennys on the dollar. It's kinda like driving a honda for 150k miles, why trade it in for a ford focus when the honda is proven to stand the test of time, just for some cool new techy upgrades.. just my thoughts.. cheers
No honestly if you don't have one I am sure there are comparable devices out there, but if you do and you a hybrid / GenDripper like me, why would you get rid of it for pennys on the dollar. It's kinda like driving a honda for 150k miles, why trade it in for a ford focus when the honda is proven to stand the test of time, just for some cool new techy upgrades.. just my thoughts.. cheers
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I agree with what both of you say. I think some of the frustration, being a non ProVari owner, but having used one, is when certain ProVari owners tend to make the device more than it actually is.
The ProVari is an extremely well built, high quality,extremely accurate, variable voltage power supply. That's it. The cost of the ProVari is reflected in the statement I made previously.
I've seen some pretty out there statements. Like you can vape a tank at 10 watts calculated on a ProVari, but on other mods, 7 watts will provide burnt flavor. These types of statements are just plain inaccurate. There is nothing magical about the electricity that comes out of a Provari.
4.1 volts coming from a ProVari, will taste the same as 4.1 volts coming from a VV3, MVP2 or DNA 20 device.
Now I've read quite a few arguments about PWM and since I have never vaped a device that has unfiltered PWM on the output I can't comment. But I have read comments by some ProVari owners that their mod tastes better because it doesn't use PWM, when the ProVari website clearly states that it does. It's filtered so it doesn't appear on a scope, but it's there.
I have two MVP2's now, and they serve their purpose. I do want a "higher quality" mod. But Variable Wattage is a deal breaker for me. So I'm leaning towards the iTaste Mini 134 for my birthday gift to myself.
Yet I have been told by some ProVari owners that I don't need variable wattage or that variable wattage is a gimmick. That is frustrating to me.
Some people label me as a ProVari hater, yet not a week ago, a person came on this board and said they had a 300 dollar budget and what should they get. Not only did I agree that a ProVari is probably his best bet, I even gave him a thumbs up for choosing the Blue LED.
I truly wish that ProVape released a variable wattage ProVari. It would make my decision a heck of a lot easier. As it stands I have to make compromises.
The MVP 2 is variable wattage and has the same filtered output as the ProVari but it is disposable and made with lower quality materials.
The ProVari has great build quality and post warranty support, but no Variable Wattage
The iTaste 134 has great build quality and variable wattage but no post warranty support and has unfiltered PWM on the output. It also has no "display".
The Futura has variable wattage and the same output signal but hasn't been around enough to establish their quality and post warranty support. It even costs more than a ProVari.
If there were a single mod in the ProVari price range that filled all of my needs, I'd buy it. As it stands, I have to choose which features are most important to me, and which ones I can lose.
p.opus,
I agree with everything you said too. Doesn't sound like the Provari fits your needs.
As far as that PWM thing, I think most people are referring to the "33.3" chip and the rattlesnake effect.
I actually like it and it does change the experience ever so slightly but that's what I like about it. I have no scientific proof to back this up but it seems my disposable coil heads last a little longer on the 33.3 chip as opposed to other regulated devices I have. YMMV but this is what I've experienced even if it's just marginal.
Adam The Aussie,
After re-reading my post I can see how it's misleading, I tried to seperate my first statement from the rest to seperate my thoughts. The paragraph below the first sentence was not directed at you, sorry, should have prob made that a seperate post. But point of the first sentence was after seeing your post on not wanting to get involved, just posting that statement is sure to create more debate. Sorry for the confusion there.
I agree with everything you said too. Doesn't sound like the Provari fits your needs.
As far as that PWM thing, I think most people are referring to the "33.3" chip and the rattlesnake effect.
I actually like it and it does change the experience ever so slightly but that's what I like about it. I have no scientific proof to back this up but it seems my disposable coil heads last a little longer on the 33.3 chip as opposed to other regulated devices I have. YMMV but this is what I've experienced even if it's just marginal.
Adam The Aussie,
After re-reading my post I can see how it's misleading, I tried to seperate my first statement from the rest to seperate my thoughts. The paragraph below the first sentence was not directed at you, sorry, should have prob made that a seperate post. But point of the first sentence was after seeing your post on not wanting to get involved, just posting that statement is sure to create more debate. Sorry for the confusion there.
I for some reason thought you didn't wear underwear. Can you clarify the superiority of your undies?
What makes your underwear better?
This topic is just annoying. These guys go out their way to sell you a Provari and for a fraction of the price, you can buy a mech or an MVP with a drilled out RDA or a Kayfun and get way better hits.
1. Who are "these guys"?
2 You can put that RDA or Kayfun on a Provari too. You can get better hits as opposed to what?
For a fraction of the price is the key. The MVP hits on the same frequency. Mechs just hit. MVPs and mechs are incredibly cheap.
To answer your original question, I think some of the posters here are shills. Actually, there's not a doubt in my mind.
MVP's are great devices especially if your looking for a high value low cost APV.
Mechs are as cheap/expensive as you want them to be. I would agree with that too.
I wouldn't compare a Provari to an MVP for several reasons all of which were already mentioned.
A Provari is not a MVP and if you were looking for a great device under 50 bucks with the features that the MVP has I would recommend the MVP every day of the week. But if you were looking for a higher quality better built device and your budget was higher I might recommend the Provari unless you were looking for a box mod or something with VW.
Mechs are as cheap/expensive as you want them to be. I would agree with that too.
I wouldn't compare a Provari to an MVP for several reasons all of which were already mentioned.
A Provari is not a MVP and if you were looking for a great device under 50 bucks with the features that the MVP has I would recommend the MVP every day of the week. But if you were looking for a higher quality better built device and your budget was higher I might recommend the Provari unless you were looking for a box mod or something with VW.
You're already sold. I just want there to be enough new vapers out there that realize they don't have to buy a Provari. They can buy a $40 mod that will perfrom just as well. I hope they're not scared to move to a mech that will perform better.
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b1sh0p, have you ever actually used a Provari? Or is this just opinion?
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