Too true.
Motivation?... Nonetheless, personally, I'd rather cross multiple state lines and fill a liquid holding tank rather than put another dime in BT pocket from cigarettes. I've given enough!
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Too true.
Motivation?... Nonetheless, personally, I'd rather cross multiple state lines and fill a liquid holding tank rather than put another dime in BT pocket from cigarettes. I've given enough!
I think vaping will expanding like a wildfire in the future, instead of fading away. How did you started smoking in the first place? I'm guessing these are the common answer for that question:
- To be cool. There are some 'brainwashing' advertisements in the past about how cool or 'manly' to smoke.
- To be accepted in a group.
- Just curious.
- To replace something. I.e.: was smoking (edit).
- Had troubles or problems.
People will know better way to enjoy themselves, such as vaping, not smoking. We are enjoying vaping more than smoking, right? Because there are zillions yummy flavors and all.
In the future when vaping is more common, the stigma about vaping are just like drinking booze, because it is common. Then, the next generation (our children, grandchilds, great grandchild) will unconsciously get the image of vaping as a relieving way from stress (just as the same as drinking booze). They WILL starting to vape, whether we like it or not. And the vaping world will be seen as a 'bad habit'. And maybe some chinese guy will inventing something to replace vaping.
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- To be cool. There are some 'brainwashing' advertisements in the past about how cool or 'manly' to smoke.
- To be accepted in a group.
- Just curious.
- To replace something. I.e.: was smoking (edit).
- Had troubles or problems.
People will know better way to enjoy themselves, such as vaping, not smoking. We are enjoying vaping more than smoking, right? Because there are zillions yummy flavors and all.
In the future when vaping is more common, the stigma about vaping are just like drinking booze, because it is common. Then, the next generation (our children, grandchilds, great grandchild) will unconsciously get the image of vaping as a relieving way from stress (just as the same as drinking booze). They WILL starting to vape, whether we like it or not. And the vaping world will be seen as a 'bad habit'. And maybe some chinese guy will inventing something to replace vaping.
Sent from my mind using my fingers.
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As the vaping world grows and more regulation is driven in - the costs will increase and may even pass the costs of smoking analogs. Can you imagine the price of a Joye Ego if they start regulating every aspect of the industry? What will a Provari cost? I do not even want to think about the cost of juice - forget about buying nic for DIY. This will drive some to either vape 0mg nic (the ones already on PV's), quitting vaping altogether, or switching back to analogs.
We discuss the outrageous costs of the cheap e-sticks in the gas stations or the mall kiosks - those prices are without the regulatory devices in place. Imagine their costs after the industry gets big regulatory overhead added...and what if they become the only source once the regulations drive the small internet vendors out of business..
We discuss the outrageous costs of the cheap e-sticks in the gas stations or the mall kiosks - those prices are without the regulatory devices in place. Imagine their costs after the industry gets big regulatory overhead added...and what if they become the only source once the regulations drive the small internet vendors out of business..
Lets not forget the THOUSANDS of Added chemicals to the "vegetable matter and paper" >60 are KNOWN carcinogens and I'd venture that many more additives are not known of at all (why some say 4000 and others say 7,000 this tells me that we do not know "everything" that IS added - or the dangers involved)
I imagine people said the same thing about pipes when ciggies were invented; I think (hope) we do see the death of smoking, but I think vaping will simply replace it. People like the social aspect, the oral fixation, the short break periods throughout the day, the feeling of being slightly BA (young people especially). If the overwhelming health evidence didn't kill smoking, I doubt the slight change in technology will kill either nicotine inhalation or smoking itself.
Based on the responses I am getting on here, I am VERY confused. So, vaping might just become another means of addicting millions in the future to nicotine? Even if they never smoked before? If smoking goes away (let's just say it does) and all of us vapers die off, and say the generation that comes after us....am I hearing that we are the founding generation to perfect vaping (maybe similar to Native American Indians for tobacco)??? Only to have BT come along and switch over to the vaping side and begin putting their chemicals into our juice, in order to make the addiction even stronger? Well, if so, then that is sad and unfortunate, and it would be our faults for letting it happen.
My theory is based on only if smoking goes away. I know, many think it won't, but let's just say it does in 50 years. Should vaping start people vaping with nicotine that have never smoked cigs?
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My theory is based on only if smoking goes away. I know, many think it won't, but let's just say it does in 50 years. Should vaping start people vaping with nicotine that have never smoked cigs?
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Vaping will eventually fade out just from increasing numbers of people who stop smoking completely and don't vape to do it. Then, there will be flashy new ecigs that keep us interested, but generation change will present a new crop of individuals who aren't addicted to nicotine, thus no need to vape. So many of our young people are being taught the dangers of smoking and will never touch tobacco. That's a good thing.
Vaping will not die out for me. That is the most important thing for me. In 40 years I don't think it will matter much to me if it dies out or not.
Thank you! I couldn't have said it better...I tried and didn't! lol
You aren't kidding when you say "our young people are being taught the dangers of smoking". Even ten years ago, when my kids were in Kindergarden & the first grade. The first-grader asked me one day, "Why does Auntie do drugs?" Both my wife and I were a little shocked and asked why do you say that? Our little one replied, "Because she smokes." Their school was teaching them that cigarettes are a drug!
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Today, when we vape, we do so to stay away from cigarettes. Assuming cigarettes die off (I hope they do) people will only see vaping. It is entirely possible that vaping will not be considered a reduced harm strategy because there won't be anything with increased harm.
When our daughter was in grade school the teacher ask for each student to stand up and describe something about their parents. Our daughter stood up and said, "My Dad does drugs and my Mom doesn't wear any panties to bed." 
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Yes...they had taught her that smoking was a drug. I don't think "vape" will go away any time in our lives. I don't look forward to the FDA regulating it or the involvement of the tobacco companies. I think it's just fine the way it is.
Yes...they had taught her that smoking was a drug. I don't think "vape" will go away any time in our lives. I don't look forward to the FDA regulating it or the involvement of the tobacco companies. I think it's just fine the way it is.
Did she "out" you guys or what!? LOL
If the FDA & BT have their ways vaping will be here to stay....only not as we know it, I'm afraid.
Nicotine very well may not be nearly as addictive as people think.
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The talk about how addictive nicotine is comes from looking at smoking behavior, not vaping behavior.
Electronic cigarettes are the first product that allows you to look at nicotine addiction...
--Without needing to factor in the behavioral components of the act of smoking
--Without the smoke, and all the additives they put in to make it more addictive
There is tons of anecdotal evidence right here on these forums that many people are finding it easy to reduce or eliminate nicotine intake.
SMOKING = Highly addictive
NICOTINE = Maybe not so much
I'll give you that. And, I hope you're right....but, I wonder how many of us vapers can not vape for a couple of days, and see whether or not it has any "withdraw" effects, on not?
Well, I went for two days without vaping recently, and it didn't bother me at all.
But then again, I am a pretty light vaper at around 1ml of 12mg juice per day, and I was also a very light smoker.
I only smoked around 6 cigarettes per day on average, but I did that for 27 years.
So I'm probably not a good example.
But then again, I am a pretty light vaper at around 1ml of 12mg juice per day, and I was also a very light smoker.
I only smoked around 6 cigarettes per day on average, but I did that for 27 years.
So I'm probably not a good example.
Well, I went for two days without vaping recently, and it didn't bother me at all.
But then again, I am a pretty light vaper at around 1ml of 12mg juice per day, and I was also a very light smoker.
I only smoked around 6 cigarettes per day on average, but I did that for 27 years.
So I'm probably not a good example.
Actually, you are a shining example! I believe that if we all would vape more like what you just described, then this would be the perfect life-long experience for those that like to hold something in their hand and like the feeling of inhaling, etc...I know I like those things. I've just went down to 16mg from 24mg and look forward to getting down to 6mg and eventually vaping as a habit, rather than to feed my nic addiction.
Thanks!
Smoking will never go away. It is a physically addicting drug, that can be sold legally at high profits, and there are huge corporations behind it. BT is never going to just say to themselves, "Oh, smoking is bad after all. We'll just close up shop, and look for a job doing something else". In the US (and many countries), it is becoming increasingly difficult and expensive to smoke, and is on the decline. BT is focusing on developing countries. In Malaysia, there are kiosks outside schools where children can buy single cigarettes. BT sponsors big youth-oriented concerts, and 'back to school' parties.
There are many people in the world that don't have electricity, but they smoke. If they can't recharge batteries, they won't vape. If the FDA and BT become involved, vaping will be regulated and taxed heavily.
There are many people in the world that don't have electricity, but they smoke. If they can't recharge batteries, they won't vape. If the FDA and BT become involved, vaping will be regulated and taxed heavily.
Well, I went for two days without vaping recently, and it didn't bother me at all.
But then again, I am a pretty light vaper at around 1ml of 12mg juice per day, and I was also a very light smoker.
I only smoked around 6 cigarettes per day on average, but I did that for 27 years.
So I'm probably not a good example.
Six a day? You weren't ever a smoker. If I had only smoked six cigs a day...I would have never quit. I never understood how people did that. It's like a dude thinking about sex once a week! ...- Status
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