I so want to vape but........

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Sandra Sims

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...I am not having the best time. Everything that can be a side effect of vaping I get!
Dry skin....oh my skin is so dry and I get bouts of itchiness.
Dehydration....well there is a side effect of dehydration on the daily ablutions front!
Thrush.....can you believe it? vaping affects the pH balance of your body and if your susceptible then voila. Apparently it's the VG so I have switched to a higher Pg juice which seems to have helped.
Teeth....the Pg juice I picked is dark and just my luck, discolouring my teeth.
Sleep....seems to be affecting my sleep too with bouts of insomnia.
I get hot flushes if I vape too much.
It's so not fair. I have done so well. Smoked 30 a day for 40 years and stopped just like that with my vape. Not had a smoke for 7 weeks but all this is driving me back to the fags.
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...I am not having the best time. Everything that can be a side effect of vaping I get!
Dry skin....oh my skin is so dry and I get bouts of itchiness.
Dehydration....well there is a side effect of dehydration on the daily ablutions front!
Thrush.....can you believe it? Vaping affects the pH balance of your body and if your susceptible then voila. Apparently it's the VG so I have switched to a higher Pg juice which seems to have helped.
Teeth....the Pg juice I picked is dark and just my luck, discolouring my teeth.
Sleep....seems to be affecting my sleep too with bouts of insomnia.
I get hot flushes if I vape too much.
It's so not fair. I have done so well. Smoked 30 a day for 40 years and stopped just like that with my vape. Not had a smoke for 7 weeks but all this is driving me back to the fags.
S

could be the extra dry winter weather were dealing with
dehydration is a myth
which way does the pH go? up or down?
possible, but with me, mine got lighter in color since I quit smoking ( and I use very dark juices)
too much nic causes sleep issues
once again, too much nic, youre getting nic flashes
 

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Sounds like to much nic. I'm no expert but had similar experience when I first started my nic MG was to high. I lowered it and I'm doing fine. I actually sleep better now that I'm vaping. Maybe it's the juice brand itself or the device like the coil or components like the cotton or wire. I'm not a doctor nor a professional. But I wouldn't give up on vaping.
 

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That sounds like a lot all at once to deal with. I'd agree with others about trying different nic levels and juices. My husband got a bit itchy starting vaping but nothing major. I have no idea whether e-liquid can darken teeth or not but it probably won't happen if you use clear juice flavors.

You may want to see a doc if you are having so many problems you may be sensitive to something in your vape although much of this sounds like the quitting blues and they pass.

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when did all of these conditions start?

Let me see, and apologies if this is "a bit too much information for the weak hearted...

Dry skin, itchy and hot flushes pretty soon after I started vaping but I didn't think anything about it at the time for a few reasons:- firstly it never crossed my mind that vaping would have any side effects and secondly I didn't actually know what I was inhaling. I just wanted to quit smoking.

A couple of weeks in came the thrush (unfortunately I don't mean oral), which I have suffered with on and off over the years, usually as a result of a course of antibiotics or perfumed shower products. I couldn't think what was causing it and got a remedy from the chemists. When it persisted, even after treatment, I began to suspect vaping as it was the only thing that was different.

I then did my research!

I discovered that juice with a higher VG can affect the natural pH balance and cause the thrush.

I changed to 80pg20vg and that seems to have sorted that out for now!

The toilet thing has been there since day 1 but doesn't bother me too much I suppose.

The skin on my face and neck is so very dry but no amount of moisturiser seems to help. The itchiness can manifest anywhere but generally the small of my back and my boobs!

I get the hot flushes if I vape too much (whatever too much is).

The poor sleep I would say has been there since week 1.

The teeth thing.....well I quickly noticed that my teeth appeared whiter until I switched to the higher Pg juice, now they seem to have a grey tinge to them.

My will is weakening, in fact I am having a ciggie as I type.....Grrr.

Any help greatly appreciated.
 

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Let me see, and apologies if this is "a bit too much information for the weak hearted...

Dry skin, itchy and hot flushes pretty soon after I started vaping but I didn't think anything about it at the time for a few reasons:- firstly it never crossed my mind that vaping would have any side effects and secondly I didn't actually know what I was inhaling. I just wanted to quit smoking.

A couple of weeks in came the thrush (unfortunately I don't mean oral), which I have suffered with on and off over the years, usually as a result of a course of antibiotics or perfumed shower products. I couldn't think what was causing it and got a remedy from the chemists. When it persisted, even after treatment, I began to suspect vaping as it was the only thing that was different.

I then did my research!

I discovered that juice with a higher VG can affect the natural pH balance and cause the thrush.

I changed to 80pg20vg and that seems to have sorted that out for now!

The toilet thing has been there since day 1 but doesn't bother me too much I suppose.

The skin on my face and neck is so very dry but no amount of moisturiser seems to help. The itchiness can manifest anywhere but generally the small of my back and my boobs!

I get the hot flushes if I vape too much (whatever too much is).

The poor sleep I would say has been there since week 1.

The teeth thing.....well I quickly noticed that my teeth appeared whiter until I switched to the higher Pg juice, now they seem to have a grey tinge to them.

My will is weakening, in fact I am having a ciggie as I type.....Grrr.

Any help greatly appreciated.

First see a doctor and maybe an allergist, you could be allergic to VG or PG. There could be something in the liquid you are allergic to. Dry mouth is common with vaping, no matter what PG/VG ratio is used, drink plenty of water.

To me everything you are stating is pointing to an allergic reaction to the liquid you are using. Try a different brand and flavor, as the allergy could be in the flavoring components they are using. I'd also look into a lower nic level, hot flashes could be from too much nic.

Then again and not to be rude but depending on your age it could be that time is starting to come, my mom was miserable for a long time, having some of the same symptoms you're describing. She wasn't and doesn't vape so that could be part of it.

People see a lot of things happen when they start vaping. Some of it may be from vaping, generally though it's detoxing from smokes. I see a lot of people getting headaches, but it's usually because they are drinking more water and less caffeine containing products, you can have withdrawals from caffeine.

Then there's just the odd times where you begin vaping and catch a cold, the flu or the millions of other things floating around. I know one guy who swore vaping made him break out, fact is he went camping and got into poison ivy but wouldn't hear it until he went to the doctor.

Sometimes it's best to just consult with someone, you mind can do crazy things to your body. The mind is probably the worst side effect to anything, exact reason I don't read the side effects list on medication.
 

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...I am not having the best time. Everything that can be a side effect of vaping I get!
Dry skin....oh my skin is so dry and I get bouts of itchiness.
Dehydration....well there is a side effect of dehydration on the daily ablutions front!
Thrush.....can you believe it? Vaping affects the pH balance of your body and if your susceptible then voila. Apparently it's the VG so I have switched to a higher Pg juice which seems to have helped.
Teeth....the Pg juice I picked is dark and just my luck, discolouring my teeth.
Sleep....seems to be affecting my sleep too with bouts of insomnia.
I get hot flushes if I vape too much.
It's so not fair. I have done so well. Smoked 30 a day for 40 years and stopped just like that with my vape. Not had a smoke for 7 weeks but all this is driving me back to the fags.
S
Have you increased the amount of liquid you drink since you started vaping? That is the first thing any new vaper should do. Not only does it prevent dehydration, it helps the vape to go smoother and helps to flush the toxins from cigarette smoking out of your body. Doing just this one thing can improve most of your symptoms.

As far as an ejuice discoloring your teeth? I have NEVER had that happen in my 7+ years as a vaper. Change whatever ejuice you are using immediately. If it is doing that to your teeth, you can bet its also causing other things in your body as well.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
:)
 
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Thanks for all the replies.

I am using 6mg nicotine 80pg20vg juice from Inawara (long story but I am in Spain atm with no access to vape shops so limited to online and not many places that will send nicotine in the post).

I don't think I'm premenopausal but I suppose I could be.

I am drinking but I don't think any more than usual so I will up my fluid intake and see how it goes.

Thanks again.
 

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Thanks for all the replies.

I am using 6mg nicotine 80pg20vg juice from Inawara (long story but I am in Spain atm with no access to vape shops so limited to online and not many places that will send nicotine in the post).

I don't think I'm premenopausal but I suppose I could be.

I am drinking but I don't think any more than usual so I will up my fluid intake and see how it goes.

Thanks again.

I wouldn't force yourself to drink water, unless you don't generally drink it much. Just if you feel thirsty, say mouth is dry, then you need to drink water. I'd say if you can't get a different brand of e liquid, try a different flavor and/or could also try 3mg but 6mg isn't high.

Also I'm not familiar with Inawara, Google only shows Inawera and as flavoring concentrate not e liquid, so I can't help there.
 

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I'm not a doctor, but I did spend over 40 years in the medical field as a physician'a assistant and RN. For what that's worth. And no, I did not spend the night at a Holiday Inn. ;) (Bad television and radio advertisement joke in the US.)

And let me say here that I am so sorry you are having issues. :(

I discovered that juice with a higher VG can affect the natural pH balance and cause the thrush.

I changed to 80pg20vg and that seems to have sorted that out for now!
That's interesting. Could you provide the documentation (a link) that you uncovered?

Vg is a natural sweetener used in a lot of food products. The natural sugars might lend to causing thrush. Just an educated guess. Thrush is common in diabetics when their blood sugar increases.

The skin on my face and neck is so very dry but no amount of moisturiser seems to help. The itchiness can manifest anywhere but generally the small of my back and my boobs!
I've sincerely never heard that vaping could cause this, but I could be wrong. Pg and Vg both can cause mild dehydration if water intake is not increased.

Vegetable glycerin is actually sold as a skin emolient for dry rough skin ... maybe try some selectively on the affected body parts. You can find it in drug and department stores in the skin care department.

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I get the hot flushes if I vape too much (whatever too much is).
Hot flashes typically results from hormonal imbalances (pregnancy, menopause, thyroid disorders, etc. I suggest that you pay a visit to your health care provider and ask if you need to be screened for a medical disorder that might be causing these symptoms.

The poor sleep I would say has been there since week 1.
This could be caused from just about anything. Detoxing from smoking, behavorial changes caused from making the switch from smoking, and all the issues that you have brought forward with this post.

The teeth thing.....well I quickly noticed that my teeth appeared whiter until I switched to the higher Pg juice, now they seem to have a grey tinge to them.
Again, I've never heard of vaping being the cause for discoloring teeth. Perhaps it is the flavoring agents in your e-liquids?
 
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...I am not having the best time. Everything that can be a side effect of vaping I get!
Dry skin....oh my skin is so dry and I get bouts of itchiness.
Dehydration....well there is a side effect of dehydration on the daily ablutions front!
Thrush.....can you believe it? Vaping affects the pH balance of your body and if your susceptible then voila. Apparently it's the VG so I have switched to a higher Pg juice which seems to have helped.
Teeth....the Pg juice I picked is dark and just my luck, discolouring my teeth.
Sleep....seems to be affecting my sleep too with bouts of insomnia.
I get hot flushes if I vape too much.
It's so not fair. I have done so well. Smoked 30 a day for 40 years and stopped just like that with my vape. Not had a smoke for 7 weeks but all this is driving me back to the fags.
S

The dehydration is from the sweeteners in the juices drying out your mouth fooling the brain into thinking your so thirsty. Its the same affect as your actually more thirsty after drinking a can of coke. Its not just thirsty but a parched unquenchable thirst. Once I began DIY juice and use no sweetener, the thirst went away.
Nicotine is a stimulant so power vaping before bed and you will have insomnia to a degree. The sweeteners too also cause at least for me there are some flavors that cause me either headaches or insomonia, mints and menthols keep me up. The sour in a lot of flavors cause me headaches and several specific flavors I learned from buying commercial juices. Its a lot of hit and miss to flavor(ing) that could cause problems. Best way is to get some flavorless base and vape that to see if its flavoring related issue.
Hot flashes IMO could be from over nic, its the way your body shows you. Its usually light headed and headache from hitting the vape to hard. Learn not to inhale every vape, your mouth does absorb some nic but not as much as your lungs do.
The flashes also could be a reaction of something in the juice but I don't have any issues with allergies so I have never researched the effects. If it the VG your having problems with then that sucks, one can vape 100%VG but PG at higher percentages is nasty throat hitting and could make vaping undesirable especially subohming it.
 
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