Introducing the Precise Strata RDA

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poconojo

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I got my ELA and Strata last night. I spent about 4 hours total trying and discarding different builds before I got one that I considered truly good. I must say this is one of the more challenging devices I have had and I aint no spring chicken when it comes to crazy coil builds. Settled on a vertical dual coil at 0.68 ohms with organic cotton.

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What sorts of things did you learn from your experiments? What works, why, what didn't work, and why?

Hey Snork. Basically I learned that 360* air flow is a whole different animal. Well, maybe not learned so much as confirmed. I knew this was a different kind of beast when I ordered it 6 months ago. As such, it seems for me at least that smaller single coil setups do not take advantage of this enough to provide stellar results. It seems that the dual and quad coils really shine here. Where as a traditional dripper with a quad coil would ideally need 4 air holes to really rev up, that would provide way too much air for 98% of users. The Strata allows them to still all run well while adjusting the airflow down to your preferred level. I had mixed results with the 360 coil or orphion style. It worked well when I could get it to stay put. More on that later.

To me, so far the 4 best things the Strata has going for it are the almost spill proof design, the tank like reservoir, and the 360* air control that allows air flow for multi coil set ups. Lastly, I love not having to worry about keeping the air hole 'up' to get the best performance like I do with a traditional RDA.

Things I do not like are the thumb screws. I hate the thumb screws with a passion. They will not stay tight leading to fluctuating resistances and hot spots flavoring. I get the whole tool less setup feature but they do not work on rba/rdas. I have had several of them and they all had issues staying tight consistently. I still have to use a set of mini pliers to tighten them down enough to stay put.

I think that is really my only complaint but it caused so many issues while building coils that I almost boxed it up. Hot spots after hot spots due to the inconsistent capturing of the thumb screws. I would like to try a spare set of the thumb screws to use a dremel on the tops so that I could use a screw driver. Maybe I can just find some phillips heads to fit it. It's a very good, innovative and sexy looking piece of kit.

With my limited testing, I would rate my best set up so far as a 7 on vapor, 8 on flavor and 8 on throat hit on a 1-10 scale. Problem is, a $5 chinese ERA copy dripper gives me an 8 on vapor, 9 on flavor and 8 on throat hit. It does heat up a lot faster though and does not hold near as much juice. It will not last anywhere near as long as this tank of an atomizer and does not look near as good doing it as the strata.
 

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First off, the build quality of the Strata is unmatched right now as far as RDAs go in my opinion. This thing is machined to perfection. As far as atomizers go my favorite was the Quasar from cosmic innovations. I could not believe the flavor I was getting from this device with a dual micro coil setup at .8ohms. Using organic cotton. I honestly did not think flavor could get any better. The Quasar is very similar to the zenith according to some people on the ECF forum. Once I got the Strata setup with the same dual coil build as the Quasar, I noticed a big difference in flavor. With the large juice well, I don't have to constantly drip my e-liquid every 3 or 4 drags either, which is a nice feature in this device. Once you get the strata setup right this atomizer has unlimited potential. I admit that this device isn't the easiest to setup or the hardest either. I remember trying to get my genesis style atomizers setup, going through mesh and wire constantly until I got the coils and mesh right. To me, setting up the Strata is easy compared to that. I still like my genesis atomizers and use them all the time, but it took me a long time to get them functioning properly. The Strata is my favorite atomizer right now and I think it is going to be a hard one to top.
 

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I tried setting up a Genisis exactly once and immediately decided that no matter how much potential vaping goodness could be had, I'd never put myself through that again. I now have four Stratas running to my complete satisfaction. They are super easy to build, easy to maintain and are performing splendidly.
I understand that my expectations may be different from others', but for me all it took was a very minor shift in my approach to making a coil (somewhat lower ohms and longer coil length) to make the Strata the best atomizer ever in my book. They have such a beautiful draw.
 

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Received my ela strata today. Kind of a paper weight till actual ela shows up. The hybrid threading was sooo gunked up with Nolax or machine grease. Wish it would have come with extra thumbscrews. I see me loosing them or fubared from tightening and untightening. Results remain to be seen...


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All set. This was my first build. I've done several so far today. My other attys right now include 2 atomics, a zenith v2, origen v1, and a brass monkee. Flavor alone, every build I've done on the strata has better flavor than all of those. Don't care for the thumb screws. Seems I still end up tightening them a bit with pliers. And the drip tip just gets a bit too warm for me so I swapped it out. Without a multimeter or some sort of 510 adapter I don't know what my resistance is either although that's not a big deal for me. Very nice atty though. Only atty that'll sit on my ELA that's for sure.
 

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Plus 1 on the thumscrew slots, and something for the center post so one can do a vertical easier.

Okay, you all asked me for picts on my build so I can get it to work better. This is the best build so far. I have not tried and Ophion but did try the simple one that doesnt have the waves, but my gauze did not work well to keep the cotton around the coil. So I tried duals and this build was the best one, aprx 1.2 -1.4 , 30g kanthal, one piece wire, duals. I used 3mm EKowool. Flavour is almost too good, very "wet". CLouds are decent, TH , too much, too warm, almost hot.

Sorry, it took so long, my back was a mess, I edited them to get all the detail I could and I hope I got it from needed angles.

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Thank you for the feedback on the thumbscrews. I'll look into the next batch putting a slot in them for a screwdriver. They are small, but I think we have some .052 or thereabout end mills to machine a slot in them.

And why you are at it.....make some extra's so existing Strata owners can buy some.....
 

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Tip Shorting Issue, an explanation and update:

It seems the tip shorting issue has taken on a life of its own. I just wanted to give an update and quash any rumors.

First, the design: By design, The Vortex screw extends up into the base of the tip approximately .100 thousandths of an inch. It was designed with .015 clearance between the post.

Second, the issue: The issue is with the Drip Tip's inner diameter, it is not a problem with the Strata. During beta testing there wasn't any issues with shorting, so it was not a problem we could foresee. Some in the field though have had the post short on the tip if it gets misaligned.

Solution: When we became aware of the problem, we immediately started on a solution. This involved opening the Drip tip inner diameter up. If you are having shorting issues, until your replacement tip arrives, simply switch to any regular 510 drip tip.

Status:

- All orders after 3/12 have shipped with the new updated tip.

- Those who's orders shipped before 3/12 (this number is really small, probably 25 units total we shipped) shoot us an email if you'd like a larger tip to supertmanufacturing@yahoo.com and we'll get you out a new one, in the meantime, switch to any standard 510 tip.

- For those who ordered from Cloud 9 Vaping, the revised replacement tips have been sent out to them and they will update your tip for you.

I send you an email. Please check it.
My order number: 18313
 

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Good question, Cucco, I was not sure if they should have been lower or higher. How would the height affect temp? Cooler, warmer ?

Im kinda disapointed that my build is not "off" or wrong or has an obvious fault. I thought someone would have said this or that is wrong so I could account for the way its performing. Its not that its not performing, just not the way I enjoy my Odys or KFL :(
 

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Plus 1 on the thumscrew slots, and something for the center post so one can do a vertical easier.

Okay, you all asked me for picts on my build so I can get it to work better. This is the best build so far. I have not tried and Ophion but did try the simple one that doesnt have the waves, but my gauze did not work well to keep the cotton around the coil. So I tried duals and this build was the best one, aprx 1.2 -1.4 , 30g kanthal, one piece wire, duals. I used 3mm EKowool. Flavour is almost too good, very "wet". CLouds are decent, TH , too much, too warm, almost hot.

Sorry, it took so long, my back was a mess, I edited them to get all the detail I could and I hope I got it from needed angles.

strata-002_zps212b028f.jpg


strata-001_zps624cc2e8.jpg


strata-004_zps7f46dfbd.jpg


strata-003_zpsf838b8ae.jpg


strata-005_zps3685044a.jpg


strata-006_zps0a8ba2b4.jpg

now those are great pics anavidfan TY for those.
 

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Good question, Cucco, I was not sure if they should have been lower or higher. How would the height affect temp? Cooler, warmer ?

Im kinda disapointed that my build is not "off" or wrong or has an obvious fault. I thought someone would have said this or that is wrong so I could account for the way its performing. Its not that its not performing, just not the way I enjoy my Odys or KFL :(

Don't know. That's why I asked. :)

Do we know what ohms you are running? Personally, I would not be happy with ohms as high as you think you have.

BTW: My coils, are prettier than your coils. :)
 
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