Is ECF dying?

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ShowMeTwice

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I've pretty much given up on ECF. I still log on to keep an eye on the classifieds and interesting new posts once in a while (and found nothing in either area for quite a while now). But I pretty much stick to VU and reddit anymore. They both tend to have a lot more conversations that are relevant to me and the way I vape than ECF does. ECF seems to get a whole lot more noobies asking the same stuff time and time again. As a mech only user I feel I fit in better on the other two sites than this one. Reddit and VU both also have much more active classifieds, which is important to me. I also hate having to filter out my comments constantly because of how ban happy the mods can be when the rules are broken.

What it basically boils down to is that I don't feel as comfortable here as I do on VU/reddit because over there I can be me and not have to worry about being banned for it. I also see less arguments over there, which makes me feel like I can post more stuff freely without worrying about hostility and arguments derailing the thread.
I appreciate your candor mate. :thumbs:
 

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this shoulda been a signinandout thing for me, too. makes sense, ppl don't arrive here looking for a hobbyforum. if you don't get curious you won't stay beyond youre needs. these can bring you back for a few troubleshoots and new stages if vaping works for you/youre commited to making it..

but that's all good and sensible.

so should be some proportion us, decreasing with flameouts (or getting a life) and the rest should be everchanging noob traffic. the latter is prbbly down with the shutdowns: there's the ppl that are real-world-socially turned to vaping, gone, and many that are in maintain statusquo mode stocking up on 'logs not researching/tryingout new things.

me? i like the quiet whereever..
When I first started vaping my help was all local. I worked in large-scale IT/networking and the last thing I was interested in was using a freaking computer once I got home (rarely home).

It wasn't for a few years until I became interested with and joined 3-4 vape forums. Seems to me they all are seeing less traffic compared to years past.

BB's, forums all come and go. Remember Netscape??? Many others too. They're all in the great beyond known as the virtual bit bucket now. :lol:

Still have a cool Netscape tee. :D
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Still have a cool Netscape tee.

Yes, you do have a cool Netscape shirt. Netscape was my browser, news reader and email client, good times.

I use the ECF daily but only for a limited number of threads. Seasons change and so do I, don't know the reason why as someone once sang.
 
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Surf Monkey

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Perhaps. It's a tool, a platform, a place for people to come together. Some find it very useful. It's only as good or as bad as the people who run it and those who use it. Not unlike Twitter, Instagram or Outside. :)

Completely unlike the OUTSIDE since Facebook is a giant money making platform, and that’s central to why it’s run unethically.
 

DaveP

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Alien recently said vaping will die when the last ex-smoker dies.

:wub:

I'm one that loved smoking. I liked the flavor and taste as well as the hand to mouth part and the inhaling and exhaling of smoke. Vaping was a natural transition for me and I've always thought that I'd vape until I die. I still believe that. Vaping is a part of my day that's relaxing and satisfying.

I always hated the smell of stale smoke and the way that it permeated my clothing. Vaping doesn't make my clothes smell and it doesn't affect my breath like smoking did. It's the perfect alternative to the nasty smoking habit that I had for over 30 years. I was fortunate that smoking didn't kill me. 10 years into vaping I believe that vaping extended my life and probably saved me from an early death. I still think that vaping, while not as safe as breathing plain old air, is so much better than smoking.
 
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stols001

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There are threads I won't go on because of well, certain members on them. I don't even post very much anymore. A) super busy b) I am not doing a ton of anything much with vaping these days, even mixing much. I mean, I am hopefully about to be moving and it makes no sense. I did get my FINAL purchase from Sourcemore today. I can't afford new stuff at the moment.

I have also been beaten about the head and shoulders too much so I have a few threads I post on. Sometimes I will post on one if it shows on my feed, including this one.

I don't really have a problem with the new MJ addition. However, few MJ users are going to search for "ecig forum" so that area is not that large, mainly folks who are using it forever.

I don't like pods at all so almost every pod thread is "moot" to me now.

I will say a) I credit ECF for saving my life, so I will always be fond of it. I do remember the new and exiting days. I think that is also true for a PROPRTION of newcomers who really want to learn etc. Perhaps one day I will be thinking about something else and not be here, it's certainly happened before on other forums. B) I have been beaten a bit about the head and shoulders by members, some fair, some not.

I don't mind the mods they are fair I think, but even in the lounge sometimes-- well, I try to not question/argue. They are doing their job functions I guess. IDK.
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I'm one that loved smoking. I liked the flavor and taste as well as the hand to mouth part and the inhaling and exhaling of smoke. Vaping was a natural transition for me and I've always thought that I'd vape until I die. I still believe that. Vaping is a part of my day that's relaxing and satisfying.

I always hated the smell of stale smoke and the way that it permeated my clothing. Vaping doesn't make my clothes smell and it doesn't affect my breath like smoking did. It's the perfect alternative to a nasty habit that I had for over 30 years. I was fortunate that smoking didn't kill me. 10 years into vaping I believe that vaping extended and probably saved me from an early death and I still think that vaping, while not as safe as breathing plain old air, it's so much better than smoking.

I was on the road to being physically debilitated, found ECF and I was on the road to recuperation.
 

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I've pretty much given up on ECF. I still log on to keep an eye on the classifieds and interesting new posts once in a while (and found nothing in either area for quite a while now). But I pretty much stick to VU and reddit anymore. They both tend to have a lot more conversations that are relevant to me and the way I vape than ECF does. ECF seems to get a whole lot more noobies asking the same stuff time and time again. As a mech only user I feel I fit in better on the other two sites than this one. Reddit and VU both also have much more active classifieds, which is important to me. I also hate having to filter out my comments constantly because of how ban happy the mods can be when the rules are broken.

What it basically boils down to is that I don't feel as comfortable here as I do on VU/reddit because over there I can be me and not have to worry about being banned for it. I also see less arguments over there, which makes me feel like I can post more stuff freely without worrying about hostility and arguments derailing the thread.

Vaping newbies helped ECF to grow and prosper. We were all newbies when we began to vape. I agree that more vaping boards mean that the vaping population is growing. That's a good thing. 10 years ago there were fewer discussion boards of any type and ECF was one of the the first vaping boards early on.

I've made lots of new friends here and never really went looking for a new board.
 

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I hope ECF isn't dying. I just found this place. Plus, I'm an idiot and will be requiring a lot of advice in the near future. Don't you dare make me go to Reddit for answers.

Friends don’t let friends get advice on Reddit.
 

Alexander Mundy

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I am occasionally here, but not nearly as much as in years past. When I started there were not any brick and mortars locally and very few even knew what vaping was. We built and experimented because we were in the model T era of vaping. Countless posts back and forth about coils, wicking, coil placement, batteries, building mods, etc were the norm. The modding forum was necessary because of what was available then. That was a big draw for me as I am a tinkerer. Now, info about what worked and didn't work is available and a lot of us have found what works for us. Mods, atties, batteries, and coils we could have only dreamed of can be bought (at least for now). Now I'm a vape prepper and have a lifetime+ supply of nic and my favorite wire, 3D print my own mods, and have a mill / lathe in the event atties become unavailable.

And just for fun

Usually social media is full of narcissistic psychopaths, flaming trolls, disinformation and folks airing every little detail of their lives or their perception thereof.

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I think that generally speaking, hobbyist/enthusiast vaping is on the steep decline, at least in the United States, due in large part to people seeing the writing on the wall and knowing that soon it will be a small miracle if they can get a device and some juice without jumping through a million hoops, if even then.

I see vapers all over getting rid of their collections and just settling on a couple favorite setups and stocking up on juice and maybe diy supplies.

If that's the case, unless you;re a noob looking for basic information, what is there to talk about on a vaping forum?

Let's not kid ourselves people. Vaping IS the greatest smoking cessation method EVER. No doubt about it. However, that can be done for a few bucks and with a simple idiot resistant setup.

What largely keeps places like this (and others) going is the hobby. People with dozens of mods and atomizers who love playing with their gear.

When that declines, for whatever reason, so will these forums. I think that accounts for a lot if it.
 
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I think that generally speaking, hobbyist/enthusiast vaping is on the steep decline, at least in the United States, due in large part to people seeing the writing on the wall and knowing that soon it will be a small miracle if they can get a device and some juice without jumping through a million hoops, if even then.

I see vapers all over getting rid of their collections and just settling on a couple favorite setups and stocking up on juice and maybe diy supplies.

If that's the case, unless you;re a noob looking for basic information, what is their to talk about on a vaping forum?

Let's not kid ourselves people. Vaping IS the greatest smoking cessation method EVER. No doubt about it. However, that can be done for a few bucks and with a simple idiot resistant setup.

What largely keeps places like this (and others) going is the hobby. People with dozens of mods and atomizers who love playing with their gear.

When that declines, for whatever reason, so will these forums. I think that accounts for a lot if it.
I agree. I seldom post these days due to the fact I found my sweet spot and am just not chasing it any more. Not unusual my only post is a good morning to the Shiny's.
 

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Well, I really love this place, and maybe because I'm here for just one and half year I cannot say I noted any decrease in the movement. But, to be fair, I don't judge the quality of forums with the number of posts and members, but with the quality of them. Here I was helped by stols001, Letitia and other people who, even if this forum was only them, for me it would be enough to continue coming here.

I agree this kind of space is for hobbyists. I don't see any point to come here to discuss pods, AIOs and so on, but simply our beloved armies full of exotic, different and beautiful stuff. And to share experiences and Infos about them. Personally I don't buy too much gears anymore because with pandemics there's no more options in Brazilian black market (yes, vaping is forbidden here), and to import it now is impossible, since thanks to the government my country is now one of the world's biggest parias, nobody wants Brazilians or airplanes with Brazilians coming and going from its territories. So for me, now, it's just possible to come here only to see new pictures, to read some interesting posts, and that's it. But every time I can pick any new device, first place I come to show it is here.
 

stols001

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Well, we could go dark I guess and figure out how to enthusiastically purchase and obtain through the grey/'back market but yes, perhaps ECF could become a land of the grey/black market.

This is kind of the only way for hobby vaping to survive.

If you want to keep vaping and you are not brand new and do not know how to DIY and RTA and etc., the time and place is exactly NOW.

But most new vapers may not even know that yet. Or are "fine" with the chemical filled tobacco cartridges to shove in their pod.

It's harm reduction but still, depressing harm reduction if you ask me..
Vaping will continue/return of this I have some confidence I just don't know when.

Anna
 
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