What the heck are you talking about? The rapture isn't "metaphysical nonsense" and our sister Angelique's post was right on target!
Thanks Angelique, Loved your post! Keep on preaching it girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What the heck are you talking about? The rapture isn't "metaphysical nonsense" and our sister Angelique's post was right on target!
Thanks Angelique, Loved your post! Keep on preaching it girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE raise our hands in surrender, and rest in the victory of Jesus. Satan goes down, the crowd goes wild!!!
Amen to that (though a little late - I went to bed)
Our first priority is to honor God by doing what we are supposed to be doing right now. Loving Him, loving and helping others, living as He wants us to live. But while we are doing our best at that (at least i hope we are) we enjoy examining the academics of different theological subjects - eschatology being one of my favorites. I do acknowledge that it is, after all, only academic. God has it all figured out. Things are going to happen the way He wants them to happen. And we (Christians) are not going to be here to see it. (another Amen)
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BTW - I thought the members only status of this group was getting fixed. Not you, CartHeadMod, ( I still haven't figured out how to quote different people in one post) but I have seen comments here and there from people who just come in to post comments against Christians and Christianity.
Nope, it's still not fixed, so this sub-forum is visible to all for now. Angus is working on it tho, so we just have to be patient. We will have these types of posters, but so far, it's really not been that bad at all, just an occasional "drive by"........lol. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been alot worse.
When they get really nasty, they will be permanently banned from ever posting in this sub-forum again, and that's the case with this one, so no worries.
I'm trying to keep the peace as much as possible around here.
Opposing viewpoints are not a problem really, but name calling, hate speech and christian bashing won't be tolerated at all.
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Nope, it's still not fixed, so this sub-forum is visible to all for now. Angus is working on it tho, so we just have to be patient. We will have these types of posters, but so far, it's really not been that bad at all, just an occasional "drive by"........lol. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been alot worse.
When they get really nasty, they will be permanently banned from ever posting in this sub-forum again, and that's the case with this one, so no worries.
I'm trying to keep the peace as much as possible around here.
Preach it, my Christian Sisters!!! Amen and Amein.
I started posting and it allowed me to. Am I supposed to join a group other than the forum to be allowed to post? I'm new at this particular forum.
You're ok chimney!
I just sent you an invitation to join.If you're not a member of this group, you won't be able to access when it goes private again. If anyone else wants an invitation, just let me know.
There are no verses in the Bible that say specifically that all children will be raptured, but that conclusion can be reached by a) knowing God's character and b) knowing how God views children.
We are told that God is righteous, but just. Until Christ's time, people were living in the "age of law". Adults would make sin offerings for their families and children were "covered" in that way. Since Christ's death and resurrection, we are living in the "age of grace". Those who accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus are saved. Children who are not old enough understand the eternal consequences of their sins (and, yes, they do sin) or the saving blood of Jesus would not be subject to the wrath of God or the lamb (the tribulation) by a just God. It's outside of his character. God does not WANT anyone to go to hell (or go through the tribulation and be subject to His wrath), it is His desire that all would be saved. The tribulation is intended for those who willfully deny the power and sovereignty of God and prefer to go their own way. A child who is not capable of understanding sin and its consequences does not fall in this category. Also in this category would be people who are mentally handicapped, etc. A just God would not condemn someone who didn't understand the consequences of their actions. Paul tells us it wasn't until he understood the law that he became subject to the law.
Matthew 19:14
14Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
Paul said in Romans 7:9
9 Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
He was talking about when he was a child. Obviously, "the law" existed already when he was a child, but he didn't understand the ramifications of the law. When he did, then he became subject to the law and recognized his state as a sinner. This is known as the "age of accountability" and it varies from individual to individual, but is generally recognized to end around age 13. This is not a "hard and fast" rule and doesn't apply to the mentally incapacitated.
Hmm. Interesting. My understanding has always been that children would NOT be taken in the rapture - as we understand people would still be saved during the rapture. I was counting those who were too young prior to, in that number.
I mean, the Children of Israel endured God's wrath during the various captivities...
I mean, the Children of Israel endured God's wrath during the various captivities...
Nah...once he gets finished milking the Iranian people out of a brazillion dollars he'll be living on an island and spending his weekends in Vegas.
We were talking about being under the "age of accountability" not under the "height of accountability".
Seriously, while Ahmadinejad displays the "spirit of antichrist" (as did Nero, Hitler and others), he doesn't fit the "profile" of THE AC. The AC will be a charismatic leader who unite the entire world under his leadership (at their request, I might add). Ahmadinejad can't even unite his own country. LOL! Ahmadinejad is evil, but he's nowhere close to being the AC.
We were talking about being under the "age of accountability" not under the "height of accountability".
Seriously, while Ahmadinejad displays the "spirit of antichrist" (as did Nero, Hitler and others), he doesn't fit the "profile" of THE AC. The AC will be a charismatic leader who unite the entire world under his leadership (at their request, I might add). Ahmadinejad can't even unite his own country. LOL! Ahmadinejad is evil, but he's nowhere close to being the AC.
As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Now dat ders funny, I don't cere who ya are!"
I've always heard that some short....I mean..er....p/c, Saints....p/c....'height challenged' men are not the nicest people due to the fact that they are.......uh.......challenged.
Two things.
1) They were living under the law at the time and their parents were responsible for making the sacrifices for the children's salvation. We are now living in the age of grace where Christ's sacrifice has already been made for the sins of the world.
2) Children have ALWAYS suffered whether it was the Hebrew children in captivity, or Pharoah or Herod's directives. Gentile children have suffered as well. (and many children still do!) But in those cases, it was because of the sins of others. In the tribulation, the suffering for the most part will come from the wrath of God.
I think the children will be raptured, and then live on the new earth. They will be tested after the 1000 year reign of Christ when satan is let loose for a while. At that time, they will have their opportunity of choosing life or death as they will be adults then.
Same goes for people who were not able to hear or understand the message of salvation, like mentally handicapped and mentally ill people. Or maybe even regular adult people that didn't have a full chance of hearing and fully understanding, like people that are members of a cult that have been severely brainwashed, or emotionally damaged, and really weren't able to process the message of salvation due to their upbringing or other circumstances.
God is a reader of hearts and we know that He is always fair.
That's just my take on it.........
Same goes for people who were not able to hear or understand the message of salvation, like mentally handicapped and mentally ill people. Or maybe even regular adult people that didn't have a full chance of hearing and fully understanding, like people that are members of a cult that have been severely brainwashed, or emotionally damaged, and really weren't able to process the message of salvation due to their upbringing or other circumstances.
God is a reader of hearts and we know that He is always fair.
That's just my take on it.........
actually, there are no verses in the Bible that SPECIFICALLY say anyone is being "raptured"......
While I agree with your statement...I'd be getting my argument/premise together 'cause the injuns are circling and will soon have you surrounded.
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