Is the nic bar becoming lower?
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Not sure I get this? So alot of mtl vapors you know just pull to throat and then back out?
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Just tried it and it's hard not to inhale, it's like an automatic response to bring it into the lungs
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I think the lungs are involved but to a much lesser extent.
With tobacco I would take a deep mtl draw to the lungs then slow exhale. With vaping it just naturally happened(evolved) that I took a mtl draw and then a shallow throat inhale, enough to exhale through the nose. I think the lungs do see some vapour but not the full mouth cavity volume.
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I have seen posts where people say the do an inhale to the mouth only and then exhale through the nose. It mystifies some people, my wife can't do it. This was actually how I started smoking, pull in a thick drag using my tongue as a syringe plunger to pull in a mouthfull without inhaling it. Then exhale however I wanted, which turned into a big pull into the mouth and then inhale. That's how ya get a good hit when your hotboxing em! Yeehaw! Lolol
I don't know a better description...
Also how you do the "French inhale".
Fancy.
I don't know a better description...
Also how you do the "French inhale".
Fancy.
I agree to the extent that it is something that you focus on to accomplish for the first few times. It will never seem automatic when it's completely foreign to the way we've done it forever.
One thing to warn about. If using high throat hit vape and do the conversion from throat to nasal at the wrong point.(more like direct mouth to nasal).... You'll feel like you just blew your nose off your face!
One thing to warn about. If using high throat hit vape and do the conversion from throat to nasal at the wrong point.(more like direct mouth to nasal).... You'll feel like you just blew your nose off your face!
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I think to a certain extent we all just self regulate the total daily amount of nic we consume As the power levels have increased people just lowered the amount of nic in the juice to compensate. Whenever I reduce the amount of nic in my juice I just end up using more juice. From a personal perspective I enjoy higher nic juice in a lower power device. Less juice, less battery charging, less maintenance overall. YMMV
TBH, I don't know enough other MTL vapers in the real world to say whether this is common or whether it's applies to "a lot" of them. But that is how I vape. I've often described my vaping style as: "MTl and the 'l' is intentionally lower case."
I smoked pretty much the same way, which is probably why my lungs didn't suffer that much. Even after 30+ years of heavy smoking, I could still hold my breath for over a minute and swim the good distance under water. What that style of smoking didn't stave off was a nasty smoker's cough and a chronic low-grade bronchitis, but this all seemed to originate in my windpipe, not my lungs, and it all cleared up within about 10 days of switching to vaping. I also never had the coughing and clearing stuff from the lungs that some people report weeks or months later.
So personally, I'll stick with vaping in the MTl style with relatively high nic to which I've been accustomed, which has kept me from smoking for almost 5 years now. I still consider it something of a miracle because prior to picking up vaping, I had pretty much given up on the idea of quitting smoking.
However I do not argue with people who state that MTL vaping was not sufficient to get them off cigs. If that's what it took to get a person off cigs, more power to them; I'm confident it's better than smoking.
What makes no sense to me are the folks who did successfully quit using an MTL, high-nic style and later switched to a DL style at lower nic levels; a style that requires them to inhale far more PG, VG, and flavorings more deeply into their lungs to get the same amount of nic. This cannot possibly be better from a health perspective than MTLing higher a higher nic level. What we don't know at the present time is just how much worse it is. It may be inconsequential, or it may not...
perhaps there's another addiction at play, and that is seeing more vapor exit the mouth....you would never think seeing a potentially dangerous substance coming from the lungs could be something that people actually like and want more...
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My vape path was kinda like that. After a year of mtl and 14 cigs which I count as quit, I was tired of the tight draw, you would probably think I was just trying too hard. But I like a lungful, that's how I smoked, and the mtl tanks were not holding up to smoking for me well enough. It wasn't a danger of going back to smoking or the nicotine amount, I'm kind of compulsive and like to chain vape you know like whenever possible, so I had to drop down to 9 and actually was happy with 6 because it was enough for me and the juice tasted better when it spit at me lol. I came across a kanger subtank and ran .5 coils at 23 watts and thought that was amazing. It was easy and smooth and tasty too. I got a few other sub ohm drop in coil tanks and mods to support them occasionally, wasn't about pushing the limits but I did go pretty far. Now I build mostly around .25 on an aromamizer plus, 75 watts, and keep the airflow wide open. There's an arms race between airflow and vapor heat, coil or vape gets too hot, more air, too airy, more wattage lol. It works though, trust me. Too much air is not my thing because then the cloud is not as dense and therefore not as flavorful. Would be the same on a mtl tank, too much air would make it all thin and wispy, or if your wattage was too low.
But as far as juice, I don't love the idea of going through 25 mls on a day I'm just bummin around the house, but I love the feeling of it going in me and watching it all come out. My vape is like an easy full inhale of breath, but rich and smooth, 3 second drag fills me up enough, and it's not like I'm hitting it as hard as I possibly could with my eyes buggin out, the airflow keeps it nice and cool. I can exhale slow, blow a ring or two and dream of jellyfish.
The heart of it is, I vape for the pleasure of vaping and not nic consumption, so at 3mg I can vape as much as I want without overdoing it, which I have been prone to do in the past.
Frankly I think you're going a little far on the scare tactics.
Give me a red x on this one, you're entitled to your opinion
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One can always just puff on their vape like one would a pipe or cigar...it's not that complicated. Inhalation isn't necessary if one wants to get their nic, just bump up the nic level and puff.
I don't mean to and sorry about that, but I do think some are addicted, enamored to the sight of vapor.
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We're all grown folks here sharing thoughts as they occur. If we need to run our thoughts thru filters to shelter folks sensitivities or be politically correct it just turns into a chore instead of a conversation.
I've seen some statements that tickled my own sensitivities and just had to settle them down and had to decide they weren't intended that way.
The very few folks in this entire forum who are obviously intentionally obnoxious quickly land on my ignore list.
The title of this thread is bound to draw in members from all sides of vaping. The potential for misunderstanding is immense. I just give fellow members the benefit of doubt and assume that being descriptive isn't intended to be offensive.
I've seen some statements that tickled my own sensitivities and just had to settle them down and had to decide they weren't intended that way.
The very few folks in this entire forum who are obviously intentionally obnoxious quickly land on my ignore list.
The title of this thread is bound to draw in members from all sides of vaping. The potential for misunderstanding is immense. I just give fellow members the benefit of doubt and assume that being descriptive isn't intended to be offensive.
I think my primary point was/is that sub ohm vapers use sub nic juice. Which is my response to the op.
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