I lived in Texas for about 5 years or so. In between San Antonio and New Braunfels. I still have family in Seguin. But my immediate family is all up here. A couple of my siblings, all four of my kids and their S/O's, and a brand new grandson.
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As long as they state it?
How many vape shops have you been to where someone gladly told you they had no idea what they were talking about.........AND you still made the purchase?
Take your time......I'll wait!
There wouldn't be any, unless they could bring out an employee who DOES know.
But I'd still rather deal with someone who admits it than someone who doesn't so they can make more sells.
Outside of vaping, the shops I frequent, I trust because the employees outright state "I don't know, but I can find out for you" when they don't know the answer.
If it is a product that can affect a person's life, then I would think it is that person who needs the product to do their own research on it. I could understand 20 or more years ago when we didn't have the information that we have now to make informed decisions, but seriously, I can type in a few letters, and a wealth of useful information will pop up and I can find out what works best for me. I don't mean to be a jerk, but anyone who goes into buying anything, especially a life altering product, without an idea of what they are looking for is pretty much asking to for problems.
I bought a table saw at Home Depot.
After the sales person gave his sales pitch, I could tell he never operated a table saw in his life.
It did come with warnings everywhere tho.
After the sales person gave his sales pitch, I could tell he never operated a table saw in his life.
It did come with warnings everywhere tho.
The problem is that new customers enter a vape shop and after seeing what's available they decide that they want one that's like their buddy's. These days that's a mod that will blow 10' streams of thick vapor. A TFV4 will do that with factory coils and the atomizer is good for a month or so. We were lucky to get a week on a Kanger before the wick was covered in crud at 10W.
I vaped for a couple of years or more before I bought my first rebuildable. A Kayfun with a 2 ohm coil was a great vape, but I was only looking for something similar to a cigarette. I had just quit smoking and had no role models to imitate in 2011.
I sometimes wonder how many non-smoking kids buy their first mod to vape at 100W to keep up with their friends. But then, I haven't been a teenager for decades. What do I know?
I vaped for a couple of years or more before I bought my first rebuildable. A Kayfun with a 2 ohm coil was a great vape, but I was only looking for something similar to a cigarette. I had just quit smoking and had no role models to imitate in 2011.
I sometimes wonder how many non-smoking kids buy their first mod to vape at 100W to keep up with their friends. But then, I haven't been a teenager for decades. What do I know?
Perfect description of what so many kids think vaping is all about and that includes many young vape shop employees. They see that pic and they're like damn right that's the way to go![emoji4]
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Good post. All vape shops around here are sub par. Too pricey, and snobbish. The only one relatively good I only but my kenthal from.
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I recently decided I want to buy a skwonker. Now I know that the ones that are mechs are generally smaller but I did do some research and found that there are some really great regulated ones particularly from this site here -
http://www.geekayvapes.com/squonk-mod/
Now I took a trip to one of my favorite vape shops and went to buy pre-made coils. I mentioned to the guy behind the counter that I am looking into skwonkers. He took out 2 that he recently got in, one that he was actually vaping then. I asked him if they were regulated and he said no they are mechs. Then he tried to convince me that because I was vaping for more than 3 years that there is no issue with me buying one. He said it's not really such a big deal, trying to convince me to buy a mech. I insisted that I am not able to trust myself with a mech even at this point because my ohms law and battery safety knowledge is not sufficient. Then this other guy standing next to me seemed like he would get one of those mods. I asked him how long he was vaping and he said 4 months.
It just shocks me how because this shop got 2 new skwonkers in that they are gonna try and make the sale to people who aren't capable of handling these mods. It's even more shocking that it seems like even in today's day an age something like this can actually happen. I thought this particular issue has subsided.
http://www.geekayvapes.com/squonk-mod/
Now I took a trip to one of my favorite vape shops and went to buy pre-made coils. I mentioned to the guy behind the counter that I am looking into skwonkers. He took out 2 that he recently got in, one that he was actually vaping then. I asked him if they were regulated and he said no they are mechs. Then he tried to convince me that because I was vaping for more than 3 years that there is no issue with me buying one. He said it's not really such a big deal, trying to convince me to buy a mech. I insisted that I am not able to trust myself with a mech even at this point because my ohms law and battery safety knowledge is not sufficient. Then this other guy standing next to me seemed like he would get one of those mods. I asked him how long he was vaping and he said 4 months.
It just shocks me how because this shop got 2 new skwonkers in that they are gonna try and make the sale to people who aren't capable of handling these mods. It's even more shocking that it seems like even in today's day an age something like this can actually happen. I thought this particular issue has subsided.
I doubt if that issue is ever going to subside, honestly. Vape stores are out to sell things, that's what stores do. My hope is that folks who get equipment that is over their heads aren't able to get it working AT ALL, so they don't run into problems. With that said, there's not really any way to know whether the guy next to you had better skills, vape wise, than you might, even at 4 months. Also, "seemed like" doesn't mean "did" so here's hoping not.
I really prefer vape shops that don't try to "convince" me of ANYTHING, but rather just educate me and let me make up my own mind, and those shops are out there. They tend to be more successful, a happy vaper is a returning customer. All I can do is (with my limited patronage these days) support the vape shops that seem to be using sound business principles.
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I really prefer vape shops that don't try to "convince" me of ANYTHING, but rather just educate me and let me make up my own mind, and those shops are out there. They tend to be more successful, a happy vaper is a returning customer. All I can do is (with my limited patronage these days) support the vape shops that seem to be using sound business principles.
Anna
Unlike a 'hybrid' mech tube, mechanical squonk boxes have 510 connections, and are generally pretty safe. People are afraid of using mechs because we've scared them into thinking you have to be a 'ohm's law master' or something. The truth is that as long as you don't build too low, you use good batteries and know the resistance range you're seeking, they're very safe. I have yet to hear of anyone having a battery go into thermal runaway with a squonk box, although there have been cases of 'auto-firing'. I think that a lot of vapers think that mechs are a lot more dangerous than they are, and that's a shame. As a community, we have kind of fostered this irrational fear that if you do something wrong with a mech, it instantly explodes...that's not how it works. I see it all time in vape groups on FB, the misinformation is astounding. If you build to your target resistance, use good batteries, and don't overdrain your batteries, you're golden. None of those things is hard to do, and none requires a PhD in Ohm.
It's not just new and inexperienced vapers that need mods with protection. I received my first IGO-L the other day. I ordered two of them for tasting juices as they mature during steeping.
I fashioned a bowtie from silica rope, wound a spaced 8 turn coil around the center of the silica rope, screwed it down to the posts, and arranged everything so that the coil legs were in the clear. I popped the cap on, screwed it onto my Alien, and pressed the fire button. I got a shorted coil message along with a little buzz from the mod. Had that been a mech I'd probably have been fine, but it's nice to have short protection. It can happen to anyone. All there is to save you from a melt down in a true mech is the fire switch (if the contacts don't weld together).
Not saying anything against mechs, just that new mech users need some experience, brief training, and understanding before being turned loose.
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That is how retail has always been. If you buy a screwdriver at Sears, go home and accidentally stick it in your eye, Sears claims no responsibility for your misuse of the product. It's the same with vape gear. If you buy a mech and go home and stick unsafe batteries in it, the store is not liable. How many people die every year from running generators inside their homes? Yet neither the store or manufacturer are at fault. It is on the user to get the right batteries and use the device properly.
I got one years ago for the same reason. I don't like it though, the air flow is WAY too small. It's like sucking honey through a straw to vape it.
I agree that the air hole is too tight, but that can be fixed with a needle file or a small drill bit. The good part is that the flavor from the IGO-L matches very closely to what I get from my assortment of RTA's. I'll only use it for a quick flavor check during steeping.
I thought about drilling it out, but all of my drill bits are wood bits and I doubt they could push through SS. I just ordered a Hadaly RDA clone for my testing. It's not here yet though.
I think the right needle file chucked into a drill would make quick work of enlarging the air intake (a little at a time!).
The Hadaly clone looks like a winner.
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