Kitchener, On Vape Shop
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Ah, the 50's! The 50's were awesome! The post war economy was booming and people were inventing new things at a rapid pace. My grandpa lived in Florida and owned a scuba tourist business. That was until he rolled out his own invention of fiberglass armored chum covered scuba suits for those who wanted to get close to nature and swim with the sharks. He sadly discovered during the inaugural suit session that sharks can go right through 1/4 inch fiberglass like it's butter and he lost half a boat load. He also learned you probably shouldn't do your quality testing for shark bites with Golden Retrievers. Oh well, live and learn! He moved the family to Illinois shortly afterwards to get away from the stigma of accidently leading 24 people to their deaths and the nickname "Shark Bait".
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They were looking at the useless “pulse” rating that even HohmTech says not to use for vaping purposes.
The Guru has spoken!
Heya, Mooch! Happy New Year!
And thanks again for your years of service to this community--and for keeping us from killing ourselves!
Ah, not to be overly picky, but the VTC5a'a are 25A batteries. Before the Samsung 20S the only supplier of 30A 18650's was LG.
Guess it depends on the tables.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to discredit your info, I was just pointing out where I got mine
Going with your chart would be the safer choice when in doubt.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to discredit your info, I was just pointing out where I got mine
Nah. I get it. It's hard to keep up to date on the latest and greatest. My chart is from November. I expect it'll be updated after the new year and I'll have to dump this one. Mooch has been really good on the new testing, and his new approach of on insisting on the datasheets will add to the reliability of knowing just what is inside the cans.
Both sources rate the VTC5A at 25A.
As the ratings table mentions the 30A rating is temperature-limited and is not a true continuous current rating. This is not mentioned in the Recommended Batteries table to prevent confusion since it’s used mostly by new vapers.
The emails continued last night with this shop. The owner sent me this, saying that when my battery drops to 3.6 volts I have 24 amps available from the Samsung 30q.Both sources rate the VTC5A at 25A.
I get it Mooch, it's up to us to know our batteries, it's thanks to you that a lot of us do. It has to be concerning though that an owner/manager of a vape shop is giving out bad information.
Just curious if anyone has a problem if the kid at the local hardware or electronic store can't tell you anything about the batteries in the power tools or electronic products that they are selling you? Why do people insist on holding vape shops to a higher standard?
And, lol. Despite the fact that the employee made a recommendation that could have had disastrous results, apparently I blew things out of proportion
Because the kid at the hardware store isn't choosing to engage me in a conversation where he pretends to know what he's talking about. You may have missed it, but the conversation that took place was him recommending coils for a build then even after learning the batteries are only 15A still telling me I'd be safe. That's the part of this that needs to be addressed. I've posted emails of the owner who has admitted to not knowing ohms law, telling me the same thing. If this had been a case of an employee not knowing the amperage of the battery this thread would not have been created. If they don't know, that's one thing. Do not pretend to and put people at risk.
The difference is in the electronic or hardware store they can only sell you battery packs designed for the item you’re buying it for, like a cordless drill or camera. They’re premade by the original manufacturers, or compatible designs from third party vendors. When they do sell loose batteries for small electronics they’re standard A, AA, AAA or whatever, not high current batteries like we use. It’s why we have to make the effort to buy them from reliable vendors as electronics or Lowe’s or Home Depot don’t sell this stuff. The minimum wage worker in those stores don’t need to understand the electricity involved, only whether it fits the model number.
We use stuff never meant for the general public, so if a place like a vape shop does sell them, it’s realky fair to expect them to take an extra half hour in employee training to assure they get the basics. So I do think it’s fair to call them out on it, and I would feel like a happy ending would be an owner not getting defensive, but owning the problem and assure the customer more training will be done with their employees and thank you for bringing the issue to our attention.
While I do understand the point you are making I disagree. If we want to hold vape shop owners and employees to a certain standard we are obliged to hold all types of vendors to the same standards.
But the kid at the hardware store will engage if you start the conversation. He is paid to make a sale period. This does not mean he is trained to show how to not hurt yourself. That's on the buyer/user. Do I think the owner is handling the situation badly...yes I do but this doesn't change the fact who uses the product also has a responsibility look after their own safety.
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