It happened, bring on the antz - ECig Mod Explodes
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They don't have to, because those things are covered by the training and then the test you take to get a driver's license.
Almost every dealer I've ever been to won't sell you are car w/out insurance, I mean, you can't drive it off the lot, and you can't get insurance w/out a valid driver's license.
There are checks and balances in place whether you want to admit it or not.
I don't know about you, but I don't place my laptop in my mouth.
And most people use cell phones with bluetooth devices now so that they also are not close to their face.
I sometimes wonder if one of the reasons my favorite modmaker is leaving us behind is this kind of stuff. He's never said it though.
Educated, uneducated, expert, novice, doesn't really matter. You never know what one of us bozos is going to do.
Educated, uneducated, expert, novice, doesn't really matter. You never know what one of us bozos is going to do.
The best b&m I've been to in nottingham holds the sort of nights i said about did a fantastic buffet as well that alone was heaven after hospital food and the attendance was good about fifty people with six staff and I have also seen them refuse to sell hardware to people they don't think have the knowledge to operate it safely fantastic example of what a b&m can be. Also they had different cabinets for authentic and clones and the clone cabinet had a notice stating where it was bought from and that they added £5 to the price to make it worthwhile for them stocking them also competitive on pricing with wire and wicking materials. There are some fantastic stores out there with excellent knowledgeable staff who provide a high standard of service so it's perfectly possible to do it, right now they seem to be the minority with the majority being and run by "cash in quick" types.
with all due respect, we wouldn't have internet without NSF and DOD. Who wrote the protocols and put in the original backbone? Without NPL there would not even have been packet switching. Without NASA and DOE there wouldn't even be WANs.
What cracks me up is young people today who *think* they know all about computers and the internet. The reality is that they know how to USE software and the web.......I meet people all the time who tell me about their "genius" grandkid who is a computer genius, which these days means "made a web page". They really have no clue the level of sophistication that people who actually built the internet had.
....the people who really knew things were "science and math guys" who wrote the protocols, set up packet switching, and developed high speed backbones. Vinton Cerf had a mathematics degree from Stanford; Zimmerman had a degree from one of the most prestigious science and engineering univ. in France....etc. The TCP/IP stacks were written by programmers at MIT, etc.
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let's change direction. Roxy's fire got me and my DH thinking about this.
The heart of the matter is not the battery and not the topper and not even the end user's IQ. The chip monitors for a atomizer short and a battery short, but does it monitor - and fail-safe - a switch short or a short in the on-board voltage regulator, regardless of what causes each to fail?
The cost to build failsafes into chips is fractions of a penny, so, why shouldn't an MVP or iStick50 be just as safe as a Jantystick ver.1, 2010?
What if the world's largest community of retail suppliers simply demanded, with a capital D, the manufacturers use Mil-spec chips with redundant fail-safe circuitry for at least the five possible catastrophic failures I can think of, instead of the beta-versions we're getting now? If we don't demand quality, we're not going to get it. I'm fine going to the mattresses with cartomizers and 10440s for a boycott but I was never much into mods.
Anyone think we can move a mountain in China faster than the government can move on vapers?
Not everyone uses Regulated Mods.
This thread is not about a Regulated mod exploding. Vape safe fuses work and have been around. Problem is few were interested, many mods will not accommodate and manufacturers have not upgraded for Sub ohm use.
Mech or Provape - If a battery internally shorts, the mod is not going to stop it.
I once put an Energizer battery in my PV-1 just to see what would happen. It didn't fire...
An Atlantis on a Hybrid---May have been an Apollo by the looks of the pics.
No - Pic clearly shows the remaining button - 4Nine in 185650 mode - Top section stayed with the Atlantis
4Nini has very little venting capability. Single center hole is for magnet removal. (2) small slots in switch retaining lip.
If a Clone, may not even have the vent slots.
Interesting that you would take exception of my statement and defend an activity that 500+ deaths and 100,000 emergency room visits a year are the result of. And you say I must not be keeping up?
my 4nine clone has holes in the top cap, though I'm not sure how well they'd vent with an atomizer seated on top. Another possible cause for the battery failure would be if he put the switch magnet on backwards while changing batteries, causing it to auto fire, though that would have definitely taken more than 3 seconds.
ETA: I just checked it, the top cap is air tight with an atty fully seated, at least with my veritas it is. So no venting in the top cap.
2nd ETA: I just checked the bottom section, and I have no venting there either... I should do something about that.
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See this thread. I think this is how this guy imploded.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cussion/658820-hybrid-mods-pretty-insane.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cussion/658820-hybrid-mods-pretty-insane.html
Was it a hybrid 4 nine? Looks to be...It explains alot. His Atlantis pin mashed down on the battery tab deformed the grommet, touched the sidewall and caused the short- That's my best guess.
Top cap holes are for tool to remove if stuck. (Needle nose pliers/etc.)
Switch upside down would drop a normal length battery down and NOT fire until switch is depressed. Switch might get stuck once pressed.(maybe)
Yes, a 4Nine.
Either Grommet collapsed or more likely - Replacement battery was a Lipo Button top(longer) and locked the switch.
I have (2) 4Nines and use each for Different length 510 connected atty's. One used Flat tops and the other requires button tops.
I just posted this in the other thread linked above, but I think there should be some kind of large-scale warning about this kind of thing.
I don't want to see a bunch of other situations like this happening. Vape shops are recommending setups like this, so clearly there needs to be a message sent to/from both vendors and potential customers, both of whom may just not know any better.
I don't want to see a bunch of other situations like this happening. Vape shops are recommending setups like this, so clearly there needs to be a message sent to/from both vendors and potential customers, both of whom may just not know any better.
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