Local NW Floridian with severe injuries from exploding ecig battery

[Pav]

I personally know 5 or 6 people who have made the change to e-cigarettes without ever knowing more than what someone at a kiosk told them. They see me using my Riva 510 and were completely unaware of other options than the standard mall-type devices.

I get this too, although the people I know who tried ecigs from a gas station or something said they didn't work well and went right back to smoking. And then they comment how my Ego is a "real fancy expensive one". Cracks me up. If they only got a peek at the wide wooly world of mods!

 

[stephpd]

I don't know if this is absolutely the case. I personally know 5 or 6 people who have made the change to e-cigarettes without ever knowing more than what someone at a kiosk told them. They see me using my Riva 510 and were completely unaware of other options than the standard mall-type devices.

Possibly. Mostly we find folks coming here that have bought the lookalikes and are not satisfied and looking for something better. Seem few of the mall stores are even selling what most of us recommend to beginners. Getting a Riva/ Ego/ Kgo on the first try is pure luck.

I'd bet most here got something much worse for their first one (I did), probably at an inflated price and came looking here for better advice then some salesman that doesn't even use them.

There are a few here that only recommend mods but not as many as those that recommend an Ego or clone. Even with the Provari I just got I'm still not using high voltage. Mostly because I have lots of LR cartos and they can't handle the higher voltage or amperage.

 

[Traver]

Seriously guys, I'm hearing a bunch of techy battery geeks talking about how people should know this stuff.
You are so wrong if you think the average joe even knows that there is something he needs to know.

Come on out of your little world and join the rest of us.
Because we are just trying to stop smoking here.

Right there isn't even a good way to inform them. Not mention that if you do tell them they are doing something that isn't safe half of them will tell that they or someone else has been doing it that way for a year so it's got to be safe.

 

[Baldr]

I almost broke my neck when doing the sheets on my bed.

This is why I only make my bed when I change sheets. Making the bed every day is simply not worth the risk.

/That's my story. and I'm sticking to it.

 

[cbrociuos]

2.5 million people vape in the US = a billion or trillion puffs and one dude gets owned by a self made mod. We should all calm down and see the numbers as long as you use a "safe" pv and don't stack unsafe batteries you should be fine.

A while back when I was smoking I burned a hole into my pants almost damaging lil benny and crashing into another car. Nothing out there is safe I almost died from eating a chopstick, hack I almost broke my neck when doing the sheets on my bed.

Again 2.5 million in the US alone vape and 1 dude gets hurt chances are small that any of us experience what he had to endure.

yep, anyone remember Toyota? every product is going to have a failure rate. they key is do what you can to limit your personal risk.

 

[Penny02]

How can you warn people of what is and isn't safe when we don't know for sure ourselves? No one has positively identified the device that exploded or why it blew. The ones who do have that information need to come forward with that information so everyone can make informed choices at least. It's just the decent thing to do to ensure the safety of other people.

 

[Travis798]

It seems to me that the only reason that we wouldn't have more information by now is if a lawyer has gotten a hold of this guy and a lawsuit is pending. If that is the case, it is likely we will never truly know what happened. Since they say the device was unrecognizable, I can see a lawyer researching right now looking into those that manufacture similar sized mods to see who has the deepest pockets. They can make up the rest to suit their needs.

 

[Penny02]

A lawyer can't make him be quiet unless he chooses to. Filing suit to make some bucks is entirely up to him and it does look like that was his choice; leaving all people using all equipment unsure of its safety and possibly someone else being injured. Wow.

 

[Rocketman]

Deleted,
Didn't sound all that good after I read it.

 

[Stubby]

A lawyer can't make him be quiet unless he chooses to. Filing suit to make some bucks is entirely up to him and it does look like that was his choice; leaving all people using all equipment unsure of its safety and possibly someone else being injured. Wow.

That is completely unfair on your part. Tom will do what is best for Tom, as he should. He's been through enough so leave him out of this.

We already know what can lead to this type of thing so getting into specifics is really not necessary. It doesn't matter what the exact model is, or even if he made it himself.

 

[Penny02]

That is completely unfair on your part. Tom will do what is best for Tom, as he should. He's been through enough so leave him out of this.

We already know what can lead to this type of thing so getting into specifics is really not necessary. It doesn't matter what the exact model is, or even if he made it himself.

Well apparently everyone doesn't know what leads to this type of thing or it wouldn't have happened.

 

[SCTony]

The longer this drags on without facts and details, the more it smells like propaganda. I am not saying it is or isn't, I just don't rule it out. I wish the guy a speedy recovery if it is a true story and all is as it seems. We here have benefited as we discuss battery safety and such, but I am sure many smokers will pass on trying e-cigs not wanting something that explodes (another excuse- I had many). Every one that continues to smoke is money in the bank for BT and Pharma. I think this has/is making us safer and more aware but there are many who will continue to smoke based on this.

 

[four2109]

A lawyer can't make him be quiet unless he chooses to. Filing suit to make some bucks is entirely up to him and it does look like that was his choice; leaving all people using all equipment unsure of its safety and possibly someone else being injured. Wow.

"to make some bucks"?
Maybe to pay medical bills, household bills during missed work, repairs to his house...
The only mention of litigation was from the fire department speculating why he would want the burnt case back. Maybe he wants to post it on youtube or have it bronzed.
The only "we" know is that a cigar sized electronic cigarette exploded and called injuries.

 

[Rocketman]

I don't know how I would handle this if it was my mod that exploded.
The vendors that I bought from would surely want to claim I did something wrong, and I
would be looking to blame one of them.

If I mentioned a vendor and tried to blame them and it was really my fault (which I am not admitting) would I be liable for any business loss? And if the vendor claimed I was the problem, and was wrong, that just might be business suicide.

I just don't know how I would handle it if it was me.

Never having been wrong in the past would probably cause me to start jumping up blaming everyone else

 

[Uncle Willie]

Sad, really, that posts indicate doubt that the incident actually happened as well as the motivations of the victim at this point ..

I suppose we expect the victim to keep us continually updated as he gets his life back together ..

 

[Rocketman]

What would you do?

 

[four2109]

I don't know how I would handle this if it was my mod that exploded.
The vendors that I bought from would surely want to claim I did something wrong, and I
would be looking to blame one of them.

If I mentioned a vendor and tried to blame them and it was really my fault (which I am not admitting) would I be liable for any business loss? And if the vendor claimed I was the problem, and was wrong, that just might be business suicide.

I just don't know how I would handle it if it was me.

Never having been wrong in the past would probably cause me to start jumping up blaming everyone else

I like that "never having been wrong in the past"! LOL
But I'm inclined to believe that he has already been contacted by this forum and it's vendors.

 

[DC2]

What would you do?

It really depends on what happened.

If I was using a mod without proper safety features, and inadequate warnings, I might consider suing.
And that comes from someone who is adamantly opposed to suing people without extremely good reasons.

Depending on the severity of my injuries, and the future disadvantages that come with those injuries...
And depending on the degree of negligence on the part of the manufacturer...
I might settle for a reasonable sum, or I might sue them into the ground.

In other words, I really don't know without knowing what's up with all that.


If it was basically my fault I would inform the electronic cigarette community as soon as reasonably possible.
But that's only because I'm part of said community, which Mr. Holloway may not be.

And then I would apologize profusely to said community for having screwed things up so bad.

 

[Semiretired]

I'm part of said community, which Mr. Holloway may not be.

Many, members join - learn what they need or what they think they need and never come back. I have seen quoted over 82k members here, but there are not that many posting... Mr. Holloway may have been a vaper for years, just not an active member. Maybe when he bought his PV - not all the stuff that is known today was present then. He found the vendors he needed bought from them and was just vaping away. We do not know and may never know. Even if we do learn the PV he was using we will never learn all the variables involved leading up to the incident...

 

[denali_41]

65 pages ?? is there any facts on what happened yet ?? or just a bunch of fear