I've never smoked before in my life. Advice?

[Hideto]

First off, I've done lots of research on your handsome site and understand my options. I don't want nicotine and know I can get juice/liquid with 0mg nicotine. I'd posted a long time ago asking about e-pipes, mentioning how I loved the smell of them, the look, the fact that every man I ever knew who smoked a pipe ws a warm, loving guy that I wanted to be like.

I just now (maybe 5 minutes ago) ordered me a DSE601 e-pipe after being blown away by YouTube videos of the amazing clouds of vapour and even smoke rings, that you could pull off of it. I got it at a GREAT price from BigBoxStore. I chose the 0mg liquid in fruit flavour basic/starter juice they offer as I personally am not interested in tobacco simulation as, technically, a non-smoker.

My question to you folks. I want to enjoy the wonderful flavours I've read about and I want to feel the magic of pipe smoking (and look dashing while I do it!) without needing any of the trappings of analog smoking. I don't care about throat hit. The idea of filling my lungs with something like smoke scares me a bit. This sounds terrible about myself, but in truth, I'm a pipe poseur; I want all the glory with none of the risks. What can pipe smokers, both analog and vapers, tell me to be able to get the most enjoyment and best use of my DSE601? I do historical re-enactment of the medieval period (read NERD ;D) and that's another reason I got this pipe; to look the part without filling our group locations with bad second-hand smoke.

How do I learn proper pipe smoking techniques that won't involve me needing to worry about throat hit, lung-filling, or other things that as a 0mg liquid user, won't matter to me? I don't want to look like the poseur I am. As well, maybe folks can ease my worries about inhaling the vapour so that I won't mind trying it. I know 0mg can't possibly kill me unless i inject it directly into my veins in 100 gallon drum quantities. I'm just... I'm a non-smoker and don't want to hurt myself as I learn to enjoy this new thing.

And thanks for this amazing resource. I had been an anti-smoker of the not-so-nice kind until I discovered this site. Like some kind of Vapour Revival Church, I've seen the light thanks to you folks, and am now a staunch supporter out in 0mg land. I'm busy filling out quizzes, surveys, polls, whatever I can do to throw support behind this cause. Thanks again! Now I'm off to browse for companies who sell especially-tasty liquids/juices in 0mg strengths so I can be ready to have fun when my DSE601 arrives!

 

[VPDownunder]

Smoking a pipe is like smoking a cigar, just puff on it and draw it into your mouth and hold it there for a sec to enjoy the flavor and blow out the smoke/vapor, you don't need to draw it into your lungs.

 

[FireHorse]

I can tell you right now, smoking or vaping a pipe does not make a person warm and loving. That comes from within the person, not because they do something that "looks cool" I know plenty of men who are warm and loving who have never smoked a cigarette, pipe or anything else in their life! And on the other side, I've known many men who do smoke cigarettes and/or pipes who are the biggest jerks in the world. A person's character doesn't come from what they do, it comes from who they are on the inside.

As for telling you how to vape, that's pretty hard to explain in just words over the internet to someone who has never done anything like it before. It's like giving instructions on how to build a nuclear device with just words to someone who only has a 3rd grade eduction.

If you're so concerned about ingesting something that might be bad for you, why bother to try it? I'm not trying to be mean or rude, I'm just a bit concerned with your thoughts and why you would want to pick up a habit if you're so concerned about the possible dangers.

 

[Bekinder]

My advice, don't start even with just nice flavors & no nicotine!

 

[Chrissie]

Completely agrees with Bekinder, don't start!

 

[Automaton]

I'm sorry, but this is all I can tell you without feeling bad about myself.

You should not be doing this. I don't care how cool you think it is. Let me tell you something you may not know.

Even if you never touch nicotine, you will still become an addict.

Habitual addictions are EVERY BIT as crippling and powerful as chemical addictions. Just look at gambling, compulsive eating, or compulsive skin-picking and hair-pulling.

These are REAL addictions that are incredibly difficult to quit. And you WILL become a habitual addict. The habitual side of the smoking addiction is actually the hardest part for me.

The reality is that none of us know how safe e-cigarettes really are. It's probably safer than smoking, but is it SAFE? No way. Look at the recent discussions on diacetyl, used in some flavorings. This is a potentially lethal chemical that causes deadly lung disease. We don't know whether the dose in some e-juices is safe or not, at this point.

We are taking risks because we KNOW smoking will kill us, and we are fairly sure e-cigarettes are better. No other reason. If I didn't smoke, I would never risk it.

I simply cannot in good conscience help you hurt yourself. And I image most people here will feel the same.

 

[moseng]

Yep i agree, why start something like this? As FireHorse pointed out it won't make you cool! Only you can do that.

With that said, I think once you "load up" the pipe it will be obvious how to use it! Good luck!

 

[joelongwood]

Completely agrees with Bekinder, don't start!

Agree completely...........DON'T START!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DocWyatt]

I totally agree. Do NOT start vaping. Period.

 

[Rosa]

Imagine walking into an AA meeting and asking the participants how you can look like a drunk without actually having to drink because you think it's so cool.

That's why you are getting the reaction that you are.

Sorry, but it's true. I don't mean to be mean, really.

 

[Mr.Stick]

You will hear "Don't start" more than anything. I'll echo the statement. Don't start. That being said, thank God you are, at the very least, opting away from the nicotine.

 

[Willriker]

seriously, cancel the order.

its one thing to recommend, even encourage, a smoker to get into the vaping scene; its an entirely different matter when you are a nonsmoker. I dont want anyone to go through the hell i went through while smoking. Even though i do feel better than i did while smoking, i do not feel 100%. I cannot recommend anything to you other than canceling your order before it is shipped.

 

[Kate51]

There are Lifesaver's and Jelly Beans made of almost any flavor imaginable, maybe you need to look into that concept.
Most people of ECF are in a life fight to not smoke tobacco cigarettes, seriously, we're not vaping to take part in 'flavor of the day' contests, although some people do like a wide variety. Some are better than others.

 

[Hideto]

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I've already ordered the kit. My money's gone. And while other people may not have had the best experience with pipe smokers, my uncle Jack meant a lot to me, as did my neighbor Mr. Cunningham, both pipe smokers, and I loved the scent about them and wanted to recapture some of those magic moments I shared with them. I would think the best ally is someone who's been on the other side of the fence and wishes there to not be a fence between us anymore? I don't for a minute think that smoking a pipe makes someone a good person, but as an afore-mentioned "good person", I also don't dress in red paint-splattered coveralls and carry a red paint-stained knife with me when I'm trying to make new friends. Did I mention I do midieval historical re-enactment and the pipe suits my character/persona?

I'm sure there are e-cigarette smokers here who aren't apologetic about what they do, and while they won't exactly "peddle the stuff to kiddies", can understand and share their knowledge with a consenting adult. If I should run far away from this hobby, why are naysayers in it? Sauce for geese and ganders and all.

I'm so confused now. Not confused on my choice to get the kit, but confused on the responses I've gotten. It almost feels like a big brother telling his little brother he wouldn't enjoy caramel candies, should never eat any the little brother may find, all so big brother can keep the caramels to himself, which makes absolutely no sense. And if people on here want to preach that vaping is so much healthier than analogs, and companies DO infact make 0mg liquids, then maybe the "healthier" thing is actually a LIE to make vapers feel better about their switching? So which is it? Is it completely/mostly safe as far as most members know or is it not? It can't be mostly safe for a previous smoker but totally dangerous for a previous non-smoker.

Edited to add: And this is why I order virgin Bloody Mary drinks. I really love the taste of them but don't want to drive drunk. Nobody harasses me for ordering a non-alcoholic version of an alcoholic drink.

 

[Automaton]

It doesn't take much for something to be healthier than smoking.

PG, in e-juice, is a respiratory irritant. There are all kinds of chemicals in flavorings and we don't really know what they do or how safe they are yet. Initial studies are promising, but we don't know.

E-cigs are still safer than smoking. But think about how much that's really saying. Smoking is TERRIBLE for you. It doesn't take much for something to be safer than smoking.

You're an adult, you can make your own choice.

But I'm telling you that you that you will probably become a habitual addict. And you will probably hurt your health.

I'm telling you this so that I can look in the mirror each morning and know I did the right thing.

You can decide. I'm just telling you the truth.

E-cigarettes are not "safe." They are "less bad" than smoking.

Why would you do that to yourself?

Smoking a pipe doesn't make you a better person. Being a good person makes you a better person.

 

[Chrissie]

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I've already ordered the kit. My money's gone. And while other people may not have had the best experience with pipe smokers, my uncle Jack meant a lot to me, as did my neighbor Mr. Cunningham, both pipe smokers, and I loved the scent about them and wanted to recapture some of those magic moments I shared with them. I would think the best ally is someone who's been on the other side of the fence and wishes there to not be a fence between us anymore? I don't for a minute think that smoking a pipe makes someone a good person, but as an afore-mentioned "good person", I also don't dress in red paint-splattered coveralls and carry a red paint-stained knife with me when I'm trying to make new friends. Did I mention I do midieval historical re-enactment and the pipe suits my character/persona?

I'm sure there are e-cigarette smokers here who aren't apologetic about what they do, and while they won't exactly "peddle the stuff to kiddies", can understand and share their knowledge with a consenting adult. If I should run far away from this hobby, why are naysayers in it? Sauce for geese and ganders and all.

I'm so confused now. Not confused on my choice to get the kit, but confused on the responses I've gotten. It almost feels like a big brother telling his little brother he wouldn't enjoy caramel candies, should never eat any the little brother may find, all so big brother can keep the caramels to himself, which makes absolutely no sense. And if people on here want to preach that vaping is so much healthier than analogs, and companies DO infact make 0mg liquids, then maybe the "healthier" thing is actually a LIE to make vapers feel better about their switching? So which is it? Is it completely/mostly safe as far as most members know or is it not? It can't be mostly safe for a previous smoker but totally dangerous for a previous non-smoker.

Edited to add: And this is why I order virgin Bloody Mary drinks. I really love the taste of them but don't want to drive drunk. Nobody harasses me for ordering a non-alcoholic version of an alcoholic drink.

Sorry but this isn't making any sense to me whatsoever!

I don't mean to be rude, but if it mainly boils down to liking the smell of pipe smoke, I'm sure you can find some incense or a candle to burn that smells similar.


Got to admit, I find it odd that as a non smoker you joined 11 months ago & so far only posted 3 times.

 

[Hideto]

Now I'm repeating myself. I know that smoking a pipe doesn't make me a better person, but smelling that scent around my uncle and my neighbor made them seem more special to me, and nobody messes with my own personal memories of people in my life. With or without, yes they would've been good men. That's utterly beside the point. And now I'm frustrated and feeling sorry I tried to ask for advice of the kind I wanted instead of being proselytized against "sin" by those who publically enjoy and discuss that very "sin". I'm sorry I got people up in so much arms. I'm sorry for being a consenting adult who educated himself thoroughly as best he could before making this decision. This'll be my last post here. I'll do my own research online somewhere else. Thanks for the friendly welcome.

 

[Automaton]

Now I'm repeating myself. I know that smoking a pipe doesn't make me a better person, but smelling that scent around my uncle and my neighbor made them seem more special to me, and nobody messes with my own personal memories of people in my life. With or without, yes they would've been good men. That's utterly beside the point. And now I'm frustrated and feeling sorry I tried to ask for advice of the kind I wanted instead of being proselytized against "sin" by those who publically enjoy and discuss that very "sin". I'm sorry I got people up in so much arms. I'm sorry for being a consenting adult who educated himself thoroughly as best he could before making this decision. This'll be my last post here. I'll do my own research online somewhere else. Thanks for the friendly welcome.

You won't smell that scent anyway. E-cigs have no smell.

Why don't you keep one of his pipes in a nice case or something?

I'm not saying it's a "sin." I'm saying it's a reckless thing to do with your health if you are not already an addict. Trust me, all of wish we weren't addicts. But we can't quit. So we make the best of it.

 

[DeepDrag]

Vaping isn't cool, it's neurotic. And the flavors aren't wonderful, they suck (too much alcohol, too much perfume taste, too sweet, too much lingering aftertaste). I'm seriously considering vaping without any flavoring at all, and the only reason I put up with this messy nonsense is because the alternative is worse. Were it not for my nicotine addiction there is no way in hell I'd be doing this.

Like Kate said, get yourself some candy if you want wonderful flavor.

 

[FireHorse]

A lot of what we humans put into our bodies these days is harmful. That's a fact that cannot be disputed.

We don't know what the dangers of vaping really is because it is so new. People didn't know what the harm of cigarette smoking was when it was new either and look what's going on today because of cigarettes. Are any of the ECF members proud of their smoking habits? I doubt it, which is why we're trying to quite cigarettes. A good majority of us who have been smokers for many years have tried pretty much all the alternatives available to assist us in quitting a deadly habit and we can all tell you they just don't work for everyone. Vaping is the closest thing to the act of smoking that has come on the market and it has a higher success rate than any other product for stopping the habit of smoking cigarettes.

We're not telling you to not start to keep you out of "the circle of vapors" because we want to keep this to ourselves. We're telling you that it's not really a good idea to pick up a habit that could potentially be harmful. I'm pretty sure everyone here would tell people not to start smoking because it's such a horrible thing.

The people we give praise to for switching from cigarettes to vaping are people who need the encouragement to help them continue their success in quitting. You've never smoked so I don't expect you to understand how hard it is to quit the habit. I've had so many non-smokers tell me, "Just stop doing it! You know it's bad for you so stop" I can tell you from personal experience, it's not that easy. You can't just stop a habit overnight, especially a habit like smoking when the chemicals you've been putting into your body are so addictive.

The reason it's mostly safe for a smoker is because e-juice doesn't have 4,000 chemicals in it like cigarettes do. It's not really saver than not vaping at all but it is safer than smoking cigarettes.... as far as we know at this time anyway. The main reason 0mg juice is available is for those who are weaning themselves off nicotine and eventually off vaping altogether. It's not made for people to pick up the habit of vaping.

I'm sorry if it seems like we are playing the part of Big Brother. You are an adult, you have the right to do what you want to your body. We are just trying to tell you it's not a good idea to pick up a habit that is NOT 100% for sure safe especially since you're concerned about getting something into your lungs that could potentially be harmful. Again, we don't know the exact health risks of vaping because it's too new for any long term studies to have been made. We're just looking out for your health and safety.