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Juice Box Issues And Fixes

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  1. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.
    I think that nicely sums up the situation :)
  2. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    As the help line appears free atm lol, might I ask the following (did previously but in a stoopid location re chances of being seen). I don't have mine yet (possible it's arrived sans ship notice but dk since I'm not in town), and don't mean to jump the gun on assuming I'll encounter the below issue or anything, but I'm about to place an online order at a store where I could easily toss some of this in too and there's a big selection. And if my speculation here is correct, the stuff could be useful in general to have on hand. (Have I piqued your interest yet?? Well HANG ON for a wild ride folks, at looong last, here we go! ;))

    Regarding issues with leakage for which some have mentioned using epoxy, I was wondering if silicone sealant might work well enough for that instead? Because if I'm guessing correctly, not only would it be easier to remove in case of application screw-ups, but it might come in handy for other vaping-related stuff too, just like the carto 'condoms' do. Ppl find endless uses for those. Re the JB again, maybe silicone sealant could even be formed into a cushion around the button, for those who get sore fingers from it? Battery adapters etc. also have silicone parts that I'm wondering if could be touched up as needed with it. And all un- or re-doable if needed, I'm (again) guessing.

    If that does make sense, is it important to pick a version that specifically mentions high heat resistance, and uses aside from just aquariums (i.e. 'automotive'), or should any of them called 'silicone sealant' already be heat resistant and otherwise dandy enough?

    I have no actual idea what I'm talking about here so thought I'd ask the experts! :D

    Bonus Q if I may be so bold: what are the potential ramification/s of having such internal moisture (from leakage, or accumulated condensation, or whatever the actual or various causes are) anyway?
  3. val

    val Full Member

    Dec 19, 2009
    This might be obvious to others but :oops:

    I want to know the Correct level inside the hose, when bottle is screwed in.

    I noticed that with out the bottle and what looks like a drop on the bottom I have incredible taste and vapor.

    Once I screw the bottle with liquid both decrease.
    I seen his video of sending the juice down to un-flood, but mine is not flooded is just not as good. :p

    Feature or op-error?
  4. LukeNM

    LukeNM Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2009
    Albuquerque, NM
    I ran an exacto knife around the edges of the button and now it is no longer hard to press in. It takes less pressure than that needed to work a ball point pen...
  5. ejoker

    ejoker Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2010
    since i didn't design it (nor do i know much about anything) i can't say what the correct level of the tube is. i can tell you that the tubes on both of mine seat to the outside 'corner' of the bottom of the bottle. i would think as long as the end of the tube is below the liquid level it would work the same, since the liquid will still get displaced by air.

    without a bottle i get too much air flow and not a good draw. with the bottle i get tremendous flavor, th and vapor. what you're describing, less flavor and vapor, is typically due to flooding.
  6. val

    val Full Member

    Dec 19, 2009
    I see liquid in the tube up to where it desapears into the cap and that means is flooded? :p
    So back to my original question should there be any liquid in the tube above the bottle's own level?
    How about juice in the threads of the cap that are visible before the white epoxy?
  7. Big Hit

    Big Hit Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I was getting a minuscule amount of vapor and a non-existent throat hit.
    I sent my JB back to Carlos.
    Carlos stated that my JB had a bad electrical connection.
    He fixed it and sent it back to me.
    I also bought a JB from the classifieds on this forum.

    Both JB's hit like a freight train.
    I'm going to sell one of my JBs.
    You should hear a loud sizzling from the atomizer if It is working properly.
  8. wezzie

    wezzie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2009
    New Orleans, La
    Thanks for in tips with the sticking button. My problem was with the hole that was drilled in the plastic case for the button. The hole was not an even circle and the button was/is angled to the right. I took a sharp knife tip and reamed the hole. The hole is larger and no more sticking.

    Note for others, the button stuck several times when I wasn't paying attention to it (focused on other things). The burning smell alerted me....YIKS!

    I am still in the "breaking in" stage...but enjoying it as long as I use low nic levels.
  9. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.
    When you push on your bottle to send juice to the atty., and then let go, it creates a vacuum within the bottle.That pulls air down the tube,leaving the level in the tube lower than in the bottle.That is what I'm seeing on mine and I would consider that normal.If the tube's juice stays higher than in the bottle,there is a problem somewhere.I would try to contact Carlos.
  10. juicefreak

    juicefreak Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2009
    when i sucked on mine it was either chemical or very burnt tasting, or drawing would actually gurgle the juice in the bottle like crazy. not the atty gurgling, but the bottle.
  11. Ralph T

    Ralph T Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2009
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hmmm. Absurd, yet flaccid. :confused:

    Is the little hole (air intake) on the side of the atty perhaps covered up by the clear plastic tubing? That would prevent air from coming in that way and maybe it's coming thru the bottle instead, sucking up all the juice before it gets to air???

    What happens if you blow into the atty while pressing the button? What should happen is a lot of vapor out that little hole.
  12. rbonie

    rbonie Super Member ECF Veteran

    what do you want for your spare JB?
  13. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.

    Great point,Ralph
  14. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.
    Speaking of the hose,it is standard Vinyl hose that most hardware stores would have. It is 3/8" ID X 1/2" OD.I've already replaced mine.I cut my new one a little longer so I could slide it onto the atty farther.I notched it out where the little hole is.
  15. beingbekah

    beingbekah Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2010
    N Georgia
    LOL, thanks. I was just coming on to pose the very question you just answered. :w00t:
  16. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    Boy, I'm jealous. :cry: :mad: ;) I guess my own dual purpose question/possibly-brilliant-suggestion below; posed twice now actually, most recently gracing post box #22; must be prit near at the rocket scientist level or something:

    ...and here I thought the JB forum was chock full o' smartypants!!!! :D :p
  17. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.
    Ok,I'll take a swing at your Qs.Silicon seal is great stuff and comes in many heat ranges.The higher temp. stuff would be fine for patching the leak,IF IT WILL STICK. I don't think it will work at all unless you can clean the area really well.Alcohol MAY work.If not, paint thinner MAY work.I don't know because I've not tried it myself.As far as touching up a formed battery adapter seal,forget that.As far as the button question,you don't need to do anything as the button is extremely easy to push and hold(At least mine is) If the button is hard to push, it is probably rubbing on the case and needs trimmed around it. My box frequently has a little juice in it and I would expect some as the atty. air intake hole is inside the box.I may have a small leak somewhere but I'm reluctant to disturb the insides of my box unless I have a strong reason to. I don't know if the above was any help or not but it's all I've got.:)
  18. umjim

    umjim Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2009
    Charleston S.C.
    To clarify:New epoxy probably won't stick any better than silicone seal without the same cleaning procedure.
  19. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    Thanks umjim, I'm sure this has allowed many readers to finally let their breath back out! :p Yeah, guess I'll take it off my list for now, and not so magic after all. The adapter I was wondering about using the silicone on (only if I'd ended up with it on hand anyway!) is a 510 to 808; happened to notice that its barbell-shaped sliding center post has never had the simple silicone circle/ring around the 'handle' (middle) of the barbell like it's supposed to. But, yyyyeah, I suppose it's within my budget to just spring for another! :D
  20. Kuya Dave

    Kuya Dave Moved On

    Jan 5, 2010
    Tru Nor Cal
    Those with issues of bad taste
    Your Running Low on Fluid Lightly Juice Your Baby Up....
    He Does NOT Use any Primer... It is VG that he uses Your Just running low on juice.

    Too Airy or getting juice in mouth from sucking to hard
    Take some filler & fill up the mouth piece It will create a little more restriction & Make it a tighter Draw... * Will also Help prevent Juice in Mouth for those with issues*
    Also Sucking too hard is not Comfortable. :p

    For those that Are having issues with there atty. Or using there CJB Please

    I am a happy Customer & A Patient Customer.
    Don't Feel Your forgotten As you are not.
    You will get yours & I am Positive of that.
    I will abide by the rules & not post the conversation's Carlos & I had.
    But Will answer what I can.

    When I try out more things I will try to post more tips if I find issues others are having Or I am having.
    I am one to try and duplicate a issue. & Try to find a way to resolve it properly
    If Carlos's Or another user suggest A Tip I will try it.

    We are trying the filler idea & seems to help. & Also thinking of other way's to do so.
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