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MadOzodi

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lol, mad! whatcha looking at at hemptraders is the exact same stuff we ordered for the co-op! in other words - whatcha got now is whatcha thinking of buying! :laugh:

And that's what I get for not reading that whole co-op thread...but I was all jacked up on hydro/oxy/poly/parallelo/whatever/codone! (with some morphine thrown in there!)

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I would love to find the ramie degummed also....i am just not having luck with vert coil in the russian 91. I went back to hemp. If anyone else needs 8oz ramie let me know.

I was struggling to like Ramie also, till I built the Rose 2, then it came all together for me. Main trick I found with Ramie, is that it performs best if one takes care to keep all the fibers nice and straight so as not to choke off the fluid dynamics of this fiber by twisting it up. Working juice into the ramie before wicking coils helps felicitate keeping everything nice and uniform, and tames wild hairs. When going through the coils, I always untwist the fibers if I had to twist them to thread the coil, then smooth everything out nice and tidy. My Roses wicked so well with great jc, that I re-wicked the Russian using the same method of keeping nice smooth lines in the fiber, and damn, Russian is vaping quite well.

I really like working with ramie fiber. It's just so fine, smooth and easy to work with, Glad I kept at it and found the way of the wick. Once my other rba's need new wicks, will switch them over too.

I did pretreat a few feet of ramie by boiling it in a water & VG solution for 30 minutes, don't know if it helped at all, but my first vape on my new builds were quite stellar, and didn't seem to need any breaking in, Great vape from the get go, and sucks my rba's bone dry.
 

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Soooo...what would be considered "too long" when pre-soaking a clump of hemp in Oxiclean?

I'm thinking like 10 years would be much to long, no matter how stellar the vape produced. Even 1 year would be pushing it imo. lmao, sorry, getting late, need sleep.
 

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I took Baps advice and made a braided coil from three 29g wires. Put it in a IGO L it is .8 ohm with ramie wick and I am vaping a new to me DIY.
InaweraShop Recipe

10ml.

Tobacco Symphony WG 5 drops
Inawera Dark Tobacco WG 6 drops

First time I have actually gotten a good lung hit like when I inhaled my cigars. Vaping at 25 watts. Me gusta!!!!:vapor:
 

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I took Baps advice and made a braided coil from three 29g wires. Put it in a IGO L it is .8 ohm with ramie wick and I am vaping a new to me DIY.
InaweraShop Recipe

10ml.

Tobacco Symphony WG 5 drops
Inawera Dark Tobacco WG 6 drops

First time I have actually gotten a good lung hit like when I inhaled my cigars. Vaping at 25 watts. Me gusta!!!!:vapor:

Details and photo please?
 

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I took Baps advice and made a braided coil from three 29g wires. Put it in a IGO L it is .8 ohm with ramie wick and I am vaping a new to me DIY.
InaweraShop Recipe

10ml.

Tobacco Symphony WG 5 drops
Inawera Dark Tobacco WG 6 drops

First time I have actually gotten a good lung hit like when I inhaled my cigars. Vaping at 25 watts. Me gusta!!!!:vapor:

I just knew you could do it. Have several builds that can handle 30, all have some sort of twisted wire combination. I like using twisted because can get below 1 ohm and have a large wick to coil surface coverage. Spreads the heat out over more wick producing more vape. Least that's the theory I'm using.

I can only vape so long at that level on some rba's, especially if cinnamon is in the mix. Kicks my ... if over indulging, but Damn, that's a great vape.
 

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I took three strands of 29g clamped to a vicegrip and cross braided it like I would do my daughters braid 30 years ago. Pulled it tight with pliers after braiding. Wrapped 10 wraps around a 14g needle. Came out at .7 but now in use it is .8 ohms. Use about 2 in of ramie, not tight but snug.:) BTW that DIY is awesome and these inawera flavors. Very good customer service out of Poland.



 

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Hey BJ, thanks for finally pointing out to me that inawera is from Poland. I knew it was popular in Europe, but somehow missed that it was from here. I guess partly I pay little attention to diy juices, lol.

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Ha ha, always the grass is greener on the other side... Just found out about these flavors and wow, really impressed...:toast:
 

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LOL, I would love to hear from doctor Cyrus on this...:)

Man BJ you know I always manage to make a house call when you ask, plus or minus a few hours :vapor:

I read this article a while back and as always from Dr. F its a great one. Wish he, or people like him were more local so I could get involved in research like this. In fact I've been meaning to contact him anyway. Anyhow I'm no expert on the kind of work he's presenting here so all I can offer is my thoughts.

When I first read the article I remember thinking "I knew it!" (silly)...by which I mean I've thought (and said a few times) that if there is anything to worry about with ecigs its 1) heat/power 2) flavors (kudos to Kurt to opening my eyes to this) acting as a noxious stimulus to the organs in question as a result of vaping. Chronic injury can lead to very bad things. Of course heat in and of itself isn't dealt with as a direct insult to cells in the study, but heat/power as a potential way to liberate more 'bad stuff' into vapor is at least suggested.

Its "known" (always take this word with 2 grains of salt in the medical and scientific world, we 'know' so little and few are comfortable with that fact) that cell injury can be connected to cancer pathways. For example it often happens microscopic exam of skin cancer will reveal...ding ding ding...chronic sun damage sitting right adjacent to the lesion in question. Chronic acid reflux in the gut can lead to changes in the esophagus over time which when viewed microscopically appear as "intestinal metaplasia," e.g. the lining over the esophagus has transformed into something more like intestine, which in turn becomes an increased risk of cancer transformation.

Of course there are lots of apples, oranges and bananas here and establishing true causality is a hairy gorilla. But the point is you probably don't want to piss of your respiratory and oral/pharyngeal cell if you can help it.

I think Dr. F is careful to report the data at hand and not jump to any conclusions, which is necessary of course. Extrapolating from observed effects on cultured cells in the lab to a person in real vaping conditions is of course a slippery slope. It could of course be the case that using even the most dangerous flavor chronically will lead to minimal increase in risk as compared to cigarette smoke. But we won't figure that out definitively for a while. Meanwhile the good news from the paper is that 1) someone is digging into it 2) cigarette smoke seems massively worse

For my part I indulge in flavors as a sinful pleasure from time to time, but generally go unflavored > 95% of the time. I am however guilty of vaping at 25-30 watts these days :). For my part I think the safest way to vape is to ditch the flavors as much as possible, and only use as much power as you need. But I'm not the preachy type and we all do what we have to do at the end of the day...
 
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