I hold my Paps differently than I hold all my other mods, even my Nemesis. The Paps switch is so easy, I can just hold the tube in my finger tips, and press the switch with my little finger. Most of the others, I hold farther down in my hand, basically where my fingers meet my palm. Even the Nemesis, which has a very nice switch, i operate with the first joint on my ring finger..
He's a builder on the forums here, Bret is his name, goes by "ohman". You order by PM or his email...Where can I check out and order Ohman's drip tips?
Since getting my Papa Lux and Kayfun Lite, I've actually changed the way I hold and fire my devices. For longer mods in 18650 mode I can still fire them with the little pinky.
But for the Lux/Lite in 18350 mode, I hold the tube with thumb, index and middle fingers. Then fire the button with my ring finger, using my little finger as a support. It's really comfortable this way, no chance of blocking the airhole and I find I do this automatically now whenever I pick up the Lux.
Give it a try, You can push the Lux button really easily with your finger joint - sorry I can't post phots at the moment.
90% of the times I type Paps it comes out as Papa too![]()


Have any of you switched flavors without swapping the cotton on the micro coil setup?
I finally got a really nice cotton wick set in there, my first one was good, but wanted a little lower ohms, so i redid the whole setup and this one seems perfect. I just don't want to mess with this perfect wick for a few days and wanna throw a different juice in there. I figured the cotton wicks so good maybe the old juice would clean out quickly enough i might not even notice the old flavor?


Hey guys, been having flooding / leaking issues through the air hole lately. Actually, I think I've had some sort of leaking on every build I had with the KFL (some worse than others). Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've tried different heights on the coil, to more wraps on the coil to hold the wick to the sides better, to not drawing too hard, to adjusting the wick so it's not so close to the air hole. I never tried a wick that spans the floor of the chamber though. I have also checked all the O-rings and they seem to be ok. I've also tried a 1.2mm ID coil and a 1/16" ID (pictured). I think the 1.2mm might have leaked less. This is a great atty but I'm kinda getting tired of the leaking. Any input from you guys will be greatly appreciated.
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The LITE is same as an ody, or terminator -c. If your upper o-ring does not seal. Your fluid will leak out the air intake. Have you tried a replacement upper o-ring? I guess you have the coil, placement wraps worked out. The only time i have had fluid come out the intake. My upper o-ring failed, it was swelling from my juice choice. I have three LITES sitting here, no leaks.. My favorite is filled with Grenada, past 2 weeks, no leaks. I put a pro-tank wick seal in place of my factory LITE o-ring. Do you have the xtra o-ring's?
Yes it is "4c" I install moist, water or fluid. I just wrap a rubber band around the air intake. Seals the bottom tank, then can remove "4a" with out loosing your fluid. Place the original o-ring next to your spare and see if it has changed size. I was able to put my original spare o-ring, into the center of my swollen e-juiced "4c". As long as "4c" is tight, you should never get fluid out of the air intake.Are you talking about 4C in the image below?
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*Runs to the closet to check intaste package.* Yes! I have another o-ring. That's something I thought about but never bothered to try. I'll give it a shot this afternoon. Do you lube the o-ring with e-liquid before assembly?