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vapdivrr thanks for all the great advice you have provided on here re micro and cotton builds. It's much appreciated.

thank you so much, I do appreciate it. maybe we have the dry hits out of the way, next, muted flavor. I do think the muted flavor slightly goes along with the wicks make up, like the density and possible type of cotton. for me, I have only vaped sterile cotton from cvs. it is possible that other types or manufacturers cotton differs in taste. also I believe, which may have nothing to do with it, that clean hands when forming the wick helps. this may just be in my mind but one time I had dirty hands when making a wick and I thought the taste was off.
 

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This has been my issue. I've never had problems with dry hits, flooding, leaking, etc. But I've also struggled to get decent flavor.

Interesting that for you cinnamon is giving you problems - I vape mostly tobacco flavors, which almost disappear entirely, while non-tobacco flavors have been relatively okay.

So far, nichrome 60 8 wrap micro-diameter (1.6mm) @ .9 ohms with cotton has done the most to bring the tobacco flavors back for me.

curious to know what brand of cotton you are using? it maybe possible that some cotton brands have different make-ups which may cause different tastes.
 

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For what it's worth I'm playing with cotton and micro coils on my current tanks while I wait for my KFL to arrive from C9V. Today I was re-doing my coils to practice and I was getting a bad flavor from my coils. I re-did them 3 times like I was before and I was getting a very different flavor, not burned, not metallic, just very different than what I was used to, but it wasn't at all pleasant. I took out a new cotton ball to re-do my wicks, I used a q-tip with alcohol to clean out my coils, dry burned them a bit and washed in water, dried them and re-applied the cotton wicks; the great flavor came right back. The piece of cotton ball that I was using for the past week had gathered the flavors from hanging around my e-liquid bag. A fresh cotton ball did the trick.

I'm using regular sterile cotton balls from Wallgreens, the ones my wife uses to clean nail polish off her nails. I imagine having a separate small sealed ziplock bag or other container for your cotton balls will keep them fresh for longer.
 

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Cloud 9 ships slower than fast tech! 13 days and still waiting for my kfl :(

Intaste is the place to order from for sure.


-Lord

Huge hat tip to intaste.de. They provide excellent service and shipping. I have a new order en route. Ordered yesterday, due Thursday in CA.

I'll give you a hint, it's a similar design, but not a KFL ;)
 

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UPDATE:
Finally had/took the time to re-coil and wick the KFL.
1/16", 28g, 9-wrap, 1.5Ω.
Coil mounted perpendicular to posts (directly towards juice channels), bottom of coil just below top of post screws.
Cotton wick lightly rolled/compressed just to give it shape, ends cut @ deck placed over juice holes.
Wick primed, cover installed and wicks re-adjusted with paper-clip to ensure their position.

RESULTS:
Cotton taste/dry hits gone so far. Build is only 20 minutes old but this is a huge improvement over previous builds.
I vape a distinctly strong flavored cinnamon red hots DIY juice, so far zero flavor has come through.
Most recent pull started displaying hints of cotton taste, nothing on the order of previous results but detectable. Pulled some primer puffs, didn't change it but is hasn't gotten worse, still no flavor.

OBSERVATIONS/CONCLUSIONS:
Definitely appears that wick over hole solves cotton dry hit problem, subsequent tests needed to confirm if it is consistently repeatable.
Will do two things to address flavor.
1. Wait and see if the wick seasons (should be flavor from the start, but I'll vape what's in there and see.)
2. Experiment with wick density, less on next build to see if flavor comes through.

KFL no longer a hate, but not yet a love.

I'll keep you posted.

hey buddy just wondering what brand of cotton your using. I have heard that some do have different tastes to them. from all the info that I have read the cvs brand has the best results. also I would leave slightly more wick at the deck channel. I think positioning at the channel is correct but cutting the wick off right at the deck could be slightly short. I do cut at the deck but also add a little extra, this way you know the wick is staying at that point without the possibility of moving away. but you know the length and if you feel like it will stay fairly bunched up at that spot then its ok. for me personally, I have had the best flavor with the coil lower then what you have described. you know the big toe nail clippers? not the smaller one but the larger size, I use the thickness of the file part of this clipper to judge my distance. I slide this file under the coil, which fits in without touching the coil or deck. this distance, for me, produces the right amount of vapor, flavor, and TH, but this varies from person to person.
 

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For what it's worth I'm playing with cotton and micro coils on my current tanks while I wait for my KFL to arrive from C9V. Today I was re-doing my coils to practice and I was getting a bad flavor from my coils. I re-did them 3 times like I was before and I was getting a very different flavor, not burned, not metallic, just very different than what I was used to, but it wasn't at all pleasant. I took out a new cotton ball to re-do my wicks, I used a q-tip with alcohol to clean out my coils, dry burned them a bit and washed in water, dried them and re-applied the cotton wicks; the great flavor came right back. The piece of cotton ball that I was using for the past week had gathered the flavors from hanging around my e-liquid bag. A fresh cotton ball did the trick.

I'm using regular sterile cotton balls from Wallgreens, the ones my wife uses to clean nail polish off her nails. I imagine having a separate small sealed ziplock bag or other container for your cotton balls will keep them fresh for longer.

I have heard of some going a week or 2 on the same cotton wick, for me, I change them out every 3 days, maybe 4. I also, like you dry burn the coil and brush the coil slightly before installing a fresh piece. when I bought my bag of cotton, I also put them in a zip bag to keep them sealed.
 

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I was up to 4 days on my ADV tank. Only changed it because previously it was a piece of cotton inside the stock coil that came in the head it was still working perfectly after going through 12ml of juice. I got my 30awg Kanthal A1 spindle in the mail yesterday so I started practicing doing my real microcoils. I got it right on the 3rd one but had the funky flavor, did 3 more (so by now I had 4 proper coils but all where tasting funky). I re-wicked them all with fresh cotton after cleaning them and I'm out and about with my 4 tanks using identically wrapped and wicked coils. My vaping days are getting better and better! :)

Lesson of the day, keep your cotton balls fresh. *Ahem..*
 

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Huge hat tip to intaste.de. They provide excellent service and shipping. I have a new order en route. Ordered yesterday, due Thursday in CA.

I'll give you a hint, it's a similar design, but not a KFL ;)

I had been pondering over the Squape... but held back due to it's OD. I've no 23mm mod but already have 2 x 23mm attys, which usually sit idle.
 

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I had been pondering over the Squape... but held back due to it's OD. I've no 23mm mod but already have 2 x 23mm attys, which usually sit idle.


merde. they are 23mm??? that's 1mm bigger than an AC9?

Edit: 22.7mm. the Poldi might just be big enough to be close to flush
 
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