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Yeah my mech runs at 13.5 watts with a fully charged battery and I get no juice burn issues. Since the juice in the tank isn't in constant contact with the wick I feel the juice doesn't get affected at all while it's in the tank. In fact if I want to check the coil and wick I just suck the juice out of the tank back into the bottle it came from with no ill effects to the rest of the "fresh" juice.
 

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Well I just made my first official sub-ohm build. Dual 1.6ohm 2mm 30awg microcoils (7 wraps each) for a total of 0.8ohms. Put both coils side by side horizontally over the posts parallel to the decks with one cotton wick through each one laid over the deck.

I never even thought a sub-ohm vape would be this good. I was expecting a super hot vape with a massive throat hit and what I got surprised me. Its warmer for sure, but its not harsh at all. The flavor feels even cleaner, the vapor production is obviously through the roof but I did not expect such a smooth throat hit and flavor. I might just write off getting a Kick 2 completely after trying this and seeing what a 17watt vape is like. Now to see how drastically my battery life gets affected. I could go over half of my day with a single 18500. We'll see where this takes me but damn!!

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Well I just made my first official sub-ohm build. Dual 1.6ohm 2mm 30awg microcoils (7 wraps each) for a total of 0.8ohms. Put both coils side by side horizontally over the posts parallel to the decks with one cotton wick through each one laid over the deck.

I never even thought a sub-ohm vape would be this good. I was expecting a super hot vape with a massive throat hit and what I got surprised me. Its warmer for sure, but its not harsh at all. The flavor feels even cleaner, the vapor production is obviously through the roof but I did not expect such a smooth throat hit and flavor. I might just write off getting a Kick 2 completely after trying this and seeing what a 17watt vape is like. Now to see how drastically my battery life gets affected. I could go over half of my day with a single 18500. We'll see where this takes me but damn!!

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My 18650's get about 7ish hours with a .7 build so you will probably need about 3(maybe 4)18500 batts.
 

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Talking to my mom over the phone may reduce battery life two-fold, fair warning folks. Also anything tech support related with grandparents can cut down those numbers by half.

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Thanks VapeDivr, but wow, that's really high. Are you just saying that I could go higher if I wanted to? My feeling in general is to keep the voltage setting as low as possible. That way you're not burning juice and extending battery life. If that's the case, then I'm fine keeping it at 3.8v. Once you burn the juice, it will mix in with the rest of the juice and kill the flavor of what you're holding in the tank.

like a previous post said, the voltage used, is really based upon how your juice tastes at a particular voltage, also vapor production as well. this ultimately is up to your tastes for everyone is different. the 4.5v I mentioned is an average of what I see as a whole from all people in the forums. some like lower, some like higher, but 12 watts imo is not that high.
 

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Well I just made my first official sub-ohm build. Dual 1.6ohm 2mm 30awg microcoils (7 wraps each) for a total of 0.8ohms. Put both coils side by side horizontally over the posts parallel to the decks with one cotton wick through each one laid over the deck.

I never even thought a sub-ohm vape would be this good. I was expecting a super hot vape with a massive throat hit and what I got surprised me. Its warmer for sure, but its not harsh at all. The flavor feels even cleaner, the vapor production is obviously through the roof but I did not expect such a smooth throat hit and flavor. I might just write off getting a Kick 2 completely after trying this and seeing what a 17watt vape is like. Now to see how drastically my battery life gets affected. I could go over half of my day with a single 18500. We'll see where this takes me but damn!!

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a dual coil is a terrific vape sub ohm for sure. I know a lot of people associate sub ohm with a much hotter vape and possibly a harsher vape as well, I beg to differ. I actually feel the complete opposite. when i vaped gennys i did many of builds, some at sub ohm, and some with the provari. i always compared the vapes and found that a sub ohm build had better flavor and a thicker and smoother vape. when i switched to micro and kayfun i did try the provari because people were saying that you didn't need to go sub ohm, and a 1.5 resistance coil was the same as sub ohm, rubbish! i still find a big difference in sub ohm with a micro coil. the last few days my provari has been calling me, its been lonely, so i made a few set-ups with it because i just like the way it looks with the kay lite compared to my particular mech. i did a nano coil at 1-ohm, i did a nano at 1.3 ohm, i did a 16g diameter at 1 ohm- 1.3 ohm- 1.5 ohm/ i also did a 5/64 diameter at a few different resistances also. non of these builds can match the flavor, smoothness, and vapor of a sub ohm build. granted you do have to deal with battery drain and inconsistent temperature with a mech, and less battery life i suppose, but i just pop in a fresh battery every few hours (no big deal) and as for battery life? i average at least 8 months to a year with my aw/imr 18650's although i have about 10 or so and use in rotation.
 

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Just got my kfl and got a couple questions. Can the plastic tank get cracked by certain juices? Can you lay the kfl on its side? Noticing slight leakage with the top portion of the plastic tank. I'm gonna try out one of the spare o-rings
I have heard of some people say that certain juices will crack the plastic tank but no issues so far for me. All the citrus/fruit juices have been fine so far but time will tell. Have not tried any cinnamon yet.
You should be able to lay it down without any leaking. I lay mine down everyday with no leaking. Dab a little e-juice on the o-rings before putting back together and they should last a real long time.
 

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polycarbonate tank cracking juices will affect the KFL but dunno about the other questions, don't have one yet but please keep us posted on your first impressions when you get it broken in! i like to live vicariously through my fellow rba'ers :)

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First thing I noticed was how warm and flavorful the vapor is compared to my RDA's! Even with the same ohm, microcoil, and cotton wick. But I get a bit more vapor with the RDA. It's my first build so it may get better with time :)
 

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Talking to my mom over the phone may reduce battery life two-fold, fair warning folks. Also anything tech support related with grandparents can cut down those numbers by half.

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Logmein Rescue Technician is your friend. I just have them give me access to their computer, and fix whatever is ailing them. My Mum, God bless her, is awesome with most things, but put her in front of a computer that has an issue and suddenly she's a bungling halfwit.. and yes, the double-left-click has come up before too.
 

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a dual coil is a terrific vape sub ohm for sure. I know a lot of people associate sub ohm with a much hotter vape and possibly a harsher vape as well, I beg to differ. I actually feel the complete opposite. when i vaped gennys i did many of builds, some at sub ohm, and some with the provari. i always compared the vapes and found that a sub ohm build had better flavor and a thicker and smoother vape. when i switched to micro and kayfun i did try the provari because people were saying that you didn't need to go sub ohm, and a 1.5 resistance coil was the same as sub ohm, rubbish! i still find a big difference in sub ohm with a micro coil. the last few days my provari has been calling me, its been lonely, so i made a few set-ups with it because i just like the way it looks with the kay lite compared to my particular mech. i did a nano coil at 1-ohm, i did a nano at 1.3 ohm, i did a 16g diameter at 1 ohm- 1.3 ohm- 1.5 ohm/ i also did a 5/64 diameter at a few different resistances also. non of these builds can match the flavor, smoothness, and vapor of a sub ohm build. granted you do have to deal with battery drain and inconsistent temperature with a mech, and less battery life i suppose, but i just pop in a fresh battery every few hours (no big deal) and as for battery life? i average at least 8 months to a year with my aw/imr 18650's although i have about 10 or so and use in rotation.

I think I must agree. One thing I noticed is that I have to take harder draws to keep the flavor full. If I take the soft draws I was used to taking the flavor drops off slightly but not so much as to get a dry hit, it just fades slightly. But just a single solid 2 second hit and I get a very satisfying vape. And if I man up and take a long hit I get a mouthfull of flavor. I think I'm feeling a little tighter in the lungs when I chain vape but nothing to bad.

How would you say the vape would change if I go with 28 gauge and do the same ohms in single or dual coil setups?
 

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OK. I've said this numerous times but I really figured this kayfun out.

I was having major issues with a juice feeding, 100% VG WTA from WholeCig

Basically I had to cut that juice to 50/50 to get it to wick correctly but still not without issue.

The thicker the juice the less rolled and less dense wick you need.

You can test your density before even mounting in the coil. Roll up a wick and drop a drop of juice on it, you will notice a thick juice will just sit on the wick without soaking in, sometimes in my case for a few minutes or more. The juice needs to really just soak right in almost instantly.

The same wick sucked up the 50/50 mix very fast.

If you are getting dry hits after a battery change, or after the mod has been sitting for a while, your wick is TOO DENSE.

My wicks that work perfect is WAYYYY less cotton than I thought I would need. U basically have to cut a thin strip off the cotton ball and not even really "roll" is between your fingers, more so just kind of squeeze lightly to "shape" the wick enough that it doesn't fall apart when you pull thru the coil.

Short tails that just bend slightly and land on the juice channels the way vapedivrr has showed seems to work the best. It doesn't work well if your wick is too dense for your juice, laying it across the deck will help but you can still get dry hits.

You should taste the cotton for about 10 vapes initially. I have found that if you only taste it for a couple then your wick is borderline not dense enough, if you taste it for much longer, its probably too dense (in my case at least)

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I think I must agree. One thing I noticed is that I have to take harder draws to keep the flavor full. If I take the soft draws I was used to taking the flavor drops off slightly but not so much as to get a dry hit, it just fades slightly. But just a single solid 2 second hit and I get a very satisfying vape. And if I man up and take a long hit I get a mouthfull of flavor. I think I'm feeling a little tighter in the lungs when I chain vape but nothing to bad.

How would you say the vape would change if I go with 28 gauge and do the same ohms in single or dual coil setups?

If your flavor is dropping like that, try a SLIGHTLY less dense wick. (Assuming you are using cotton )

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