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    How is the draw? Is there any significant change? I've read that even though you open up the outer airhole, the hole in the center pin will still restrict it.
    Draw is much better. There is a large hole in the center pin, i think a bit larger then 1/16. I did not measure it. Much better vape production. Cotton wick kept up with GVC. I only ran .5 tank threw, then mailed the R91 CLONE off as a gift.
    Lol man I want to drill it to 1/16th too but I have a real Russian and nervous I'd break it. Isn't the hole already 1.8mm though stock?
    No way will i drill into my OEM R91, or KLites. Stock, they perform fine for me. It was a 20.$ clone i drilled out. You need a drill press to drill threw the base. I tried for 3 days with a hand drill. On the press done in 30 seconds.
     

    TheKiwi

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    Yeah you make a good point. Realized when I lost my bottom insulator and figuring out how to use insulator tape that the air goes through the tiny holes of the screw then up through the deck. Maybe if someone engineered a screw with wider holes it would increase the airhole.

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    tbh, I actually think the folks at svoemesto thought about it, and considered the fact that if having a larger air hole means you'll risk getting insufficient negative pressure and thus poorer wicking. Given that the juice actually needs to work against gravity to get up to the deck where the wicks are, you do need a fair bit of negative pressure (and hence tighter draw) to achieve that. I'm one of those who actually prefers a slightly tighter draw, and so far i found the airflow on a stock to be perfect for me even with a thick 100% VG juice
     

    LReyes66

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    Anyone have a kayfun lite plus black edition? My girlfriend keeps nagging me how crappy her protank3 is even on rebuilt coils compared to my R91...of course lol. I was also planning on getting another authentic kfl+ or Russian 91 for myself to pair with my provari since I'm using my Russian on my mech to subohm. What's your thoughts on the black edition? People are claiming its better then the real kayfuns and Russians which I don't know how.

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    Tommy Aces

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    Anyone have a kayfun lite plus black edition? My girlfriend keeps nagging me how crappy her protank3 is even on rebuilt coils compared to my R91...of course lol. I was also planning on getting another authentic kfl+ or Russian 91 for myself to pair with my provari since I'm using my Russian on my mech to subohm. What's your thoughts on the black edition? People are claiming its better then the real kayfuns and Russians which I don't know how.

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    I've got 3 of them. I've also got 2 legit R91s and 2 KFL+s, so I feel comfortable in making a head to head comparison.

    I jumped on the Black when I first saw them posted. I figured for $50, if it was of decent quality and worked without too much tinkering, it was well worth it (I had a Tobeco clone that was a PITA to get going).

    Long story short, I liked the Black so much, I picked up 2 more. Compared to the real KFL+ and R91, the only real negatives are slightly less precision threading and the heads on the deck screws are a little smaller than the KFL+ (but about the same as the R91). It's not a problem for me, but I've heard others mention it. Otherwise, you are basically getting a $100 atty for $50. The finish on the device is virtually identical to the original KFL+.

    The outside air hole is about 1.5 mm, which is just slightly smaller than that on the real deal. The overall airflow may be just ever so slightly less airy than the R91 and KFL+ when the AFC is opened all the way up, but honestly it isn't very noticeable.

    Just remember, like any other atty you should clean it thoroughly when you first get it. Take everything to bits and give it a good scrubbing with a toothbrush and dish soap. I follow that up with a soak in vodka for a few hours and then a good hot water rinse. You want to be sure you rid it of any machining oils or gunk that could cause an off flavor or restrict airflow.....speaking of which......

    When you pull out the inner center pin, there are two things to look for; 1). Make sure the air hole in the pin is clear of any plastic burrs left over from the insulator and 2). Check to make sure that when the insulator is down against the head of the screw that it doesn't partially cover the air hole. This will restrict airflow and could give you "The Whistle". If the insulator covers up part of the air hole, just take an emery board and gently sand down the narrow end of the insulator until it clears the hole I. The screw.

    But to sum it up....Yes, it is a good product and IMO, well worth the $50.
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    Thank you sir! Someone else recently said that same line, maybe that was you!! Yea, I enjoy the beast!

    Yeah, that was me again :p
    That car has always eluded my bank account.
    A car well under 100k that makes exotics anywhere from 250k-750k look stupid has always been quite a feat.
    It's the only TRUE American sports car!
    I'll stop the silly comments from now on, just know that I hate you and we're good. ;)

    Sorry all, back on topic!
     

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    I've got 3 of them. I've also got 2 legit R91s and 2 KFL+s, so I feel comfortable in making a head to head comparison.

    I jumped on the Black when I first saw them posted. I figured for $50, if it was of decent quality and worked without too much tinkering, it was well worth it (I had a Tobeco clone that was a PITA to get going).

    Long story short, I liked the Black so much, I picked up 2 more. Compared to the real KFL+ and R91, the only real negatives are slightly less precision threading and the heads on the deck screws are a little smaller than the KFL+ (but about the same as the R91). It's not a problem for me, but I've heard others mention it. Otherwise, you are basically getting a $100 atty for $50. The finish on the device is virtually identical to the original KFL+.

    The outside air hole is about 1.5 mm, which is just slightly smaller than that on the real deal. The overall airflow may be just ever so slightly less airy than the R91 and KFL+ when the AFC is opened all the way up, but honestly it isn't very noticeable.

    Just remember, like any other atty you should clean it thoroughly when you first get it. Take everything to bits and give it a good scrubbing with a toothbrush and dish soap. I follow that up with a soak in vodka for a few hours and then a good hot water rinse. You want to be sure you rid it of any machining oils or gunk that could cause an off flavor or restrict airflow.....speaking of which......

    When you pull out the inner center pin, there are two things to look for; 1). Make sure the air hole in the pin is clear of any plastic burrs left over from the insulator and 2). Check to make sure that when the insulator is down against the head of the screw that it doesn't partially cover the air hole. This will restrict airflow and could give you "The Whistle". If the insulator covers up part of the air hole, just take an emery board and gently sand down the narrow end of the insulator until it clears the hole I. The screw.

    But to sum it up....Yes, it is a good product and IMO, well worth the $50.
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    Mmm how does it compare to the past better clones like the ehpro? Well if its that good I might as well pick up 2 instead of just 1 black edition and another R91 for myself so I can use the extra money on another mod.

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    Hello fellow Kayfuner's, I've got a question for you.

    I plan to rock some Pluid in my Kayfun Lite. I want to know if I should worry about melting the isolators. Does anyone have experience with this? Replacing the O-rings is easy and expected, but I'm just not sure about the isolators.
    upper chimney o-ring (c4) will swell in 2 days. I have grenada in a klite since July, no issues. I replaced the upper o-ring with the seal off a protank coil. Insulators do not react to anise.
     

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    Grenada and PLUID will degrade the o-rings...
    I've had mine swell with Grenada, and a friend told me one of his o-rings just split and snapped off due to pluid.

    I've had my fare share of both juices, and dont see myself buying any more due to the inconvenience that comes with these types.
     

    Zbeast08

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    Yeah, that was me again :p
    That car has always eluded my bank account.
    A car well under 100k that makes exotics anywhere from 250k-750k look stupid has always been quite a feat.
    It's the only TRUE American sports car!
    I'll stop the silly comments from now on, just know that I hate you and we're good. ;)

    Sorry all, back on topic!

    Oh that gave me a laugh!! Very true, well worth the money vs the cost of the import super cars, btw, the viper is awesome as well but "raw" !! We're good!;)
     

    Tommy Aces

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    Mmm how does it compare to the past better clones like the ehpro? Well if its that good I might as well pick up 2 instead of just 1 black edition and another R91 for myself so I can use the extra money on another mod.

    Thanks

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    I don't have any experience with any of the clones other than the Black and the Tobecoo (gave the Tobeco away). All I can tell you is that I like the Black Edition a lot. Once the devices are built and assembled, I honestly have no preference between the R91s,, KFL+s! or Blacks. They vape identical to me.

    With that said, I probably haven't bought my last legit KFL+ or R91 and they're still the best $100 devices I've ever bought.
     
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