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[Atlantisboy]

This is probably way more detailed than you were asking but here's what I do for anybody wondering. First thing I shoot for about 1.3-1.5 ohms. I've used 30 ga and 32 ga both seem to work very well with grants on the kayfun 32 gauge 4 wraps and 30 gauge 5 wraps. Personally, I take a 3 inch strand of 2mm of silica and cut another small maybe 1 inch piece of 2mm and lay it on top of my first strand. Wrap my coil around both pieces and cut the smaller 1 inch piece so it's right even with my wraps on both sides. I keep the ends of the kanthal in the north south positions. I flip my coil so that when I attach them to the posts the coils are closer to the air duct. (If you flip one way your coil sits up... the other the coil will be down closer to the duct). I'm diagonal at this point. After attaching a take the small flat head screwdriver and lift about 1mm off the air duct hole that's it. This is key if it's too close it might flood and if it's too far flavor suffers.

After attaching I take my ends and lay them on the ledge (for lack of better words) on each side, so the tails of the silica are usually about 1/2 to 1 inch hanging over on each side. I take some fingernail clippers and clip right at the end of the ledge on each side (still holding them in place). Kinda like this picture but going all the way to the edge. Just a single piece of 2mm silica on each side no doubling for me.
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Then I screw the body of the evaporation chamber on, test fire for even glow, add juice. Burn it. Add Juice. Burn it. Then add juice, add the chimney to the evaporation chamber and vape. One tip is to vape with just the evaporation chamber and use the chimney as a drip tip. If it doesn't taste decent after a few break in vapes you've got a short or a wrap isn't tight enough etc. you know how that goes. That's it. I think less silica in the evaporation chamber the better and having just the right height of your coil over the air duct/ air intake hole are the two key factors. but just my

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain that, just the right amount of detail I have a bottle of highly steeped GVC too, its lush!

 

[Rule62]

After fooling around with my two KfLs for the last few days, my favorite set up so far is the micro coil, with cotton ball wick. Easy set up. Easy wick change. IMO, better flavor than silica or ekowool. I've tried both ekowool and silica, in various configurations, and compared them, side by side, with the micro coil; including blind testing with the same juice. I also tried both 30ga round wire, and the equivalent .6 ribbon wire on the silica and ekowool. For me, the micro coil, with 30ga round kanthal wins.

 

[Atlantisboy]

After fooling around with my two KfLs for the last few days, my favorite set up so far is the micro coil, with cotton ball wick. Easy set up. Easy wick change. IMO, better flavor than silica or ekowool. I've tried both ekowool and silica, in various configurations, and compared them, side by side, with the micro coil; including blind testing with the same juice. I also tried both 30ga round wire, and the equivalent .6 ribbon wire on the silica and ekowool. For me, the micro coil, with 30ga round kanthal wins.

Do you have a pic of this setup please? One thing I have not tried is the cotton balls, which type are the best to get and how do you know how much to use? Thanks.

 

[Rule62]

Do you have a pic of this setup please? One thing I have not tried is the cotton balls, which type are the best to get and how do you know how much to use? Thanks.

I just set one up, and have it filled. I should have taken pictures, but I didn't. Next time I change wicks in one of mine, I will. I'm just using sterile cotton balls, like you get at the pharmacy or grocery. Just find the grain in the cotton, and tear a strip along the grain. It takes a little trial and error to find out how much to use. Just whatever will pull through the coil without messing up the coil. I just twist the very end, and wet it with my lips, kind of like threading a sewing needle, and thread it through. Then trim the ends to size. The wick just sits on the ledges above the juice channels.

 

[villarino1k]

C'mon. Someone restock please :/

 

[pokerplayer]

Rule, how long does the cotton last? Was thinking of trying this and was curious as to how often it would need to be changed. So far, I've only used Ekowool.

 

[Rule62]

Rule, how long does the cotton last? Was thinking of trying this and was curious as to how often it would need to be changed. So far, I've only used Ekowool.

I don't know yet. I've had the first one I built with cotton going for a couple days now. I think I've run two tanks through it. So far, no degradation in flavor. I'm vaping a DIY caramel cappuccino, which has a tendency to gunk up coils. So, I suspect the coil will be due for a brushing off and dry burn, at which time I'll swap out the wick.

 

[pokerplayer]

Got it. Thanks!

 

[Rule62]

Do you have a pic of this setup please? One thing I have not tried is the cotton balls, which type are the best to get and how do you know how much to use? Thanks.

Post #21 in this thread looks sorta like what I'm doing, except I'm doing it on a KfL.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...kind-cotton-you-using-rebuilding-wicks-3.html

 

[Cid78]

Just try 1st attempt of set up my KFL tonight..

I am using Todd's method, since i am using Evic, i am using higher ohm coil (1.7 Ohm using 32 awg Kanthal) and 3mm normal silica wick. Running at 10 watts, and the flavour seems a little muted compared to a Vapeonly Mini BCC.

Vapor also not as much as the Vapeonly Mini BCC, which i normally use.

Is there something wrong in my set up?

Tomorrow will try making less resistance coil and let see the result...

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[Atlantisboy]

Post #21 in this thread looks sorta like what I'm doing, except I'm doing it on a KfL.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...kind-cotton-you-using-rebuilding-wicks-3.html

Thank you.

 

[Tennovan]

Just try 1st attempt of set up my KFL tonight..

I am using Todd's method, since i am using Evic, i am using higher ohm coil (1.7 Ohm using 32 awg Kanthal) and 3mm normal silica wick. Running at 10 watts, and the flavour seems a little muted compared to a Vapeonly Mini BCC.

Vapor also not as much as the Vapeonly Mini BCC, which i normally use.

Is there something wrong in my set up?

Tomorrow will try making less resistance coil and let see the result...

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I think there may be a few variables here. My wick had to be broken in for about half a day before the flavor really came through, so you might give it some time. As far as the vapor, I believe someone said the distance between your coil and the air hole can affect this, so you might try getting the coil a bit closer to the air hole if you can. I've not tried it myself yet so I can't speak to its validity, but it may be something to keep in mind.

 

[eratikmind]

If I am not mistaken . . . Closer to the deck = more throat hit . . . Further = more vapor.

- Andy

 

[jazzguy]

If I am not mistaken . . . Closer to the deck = more throat hit . . . Further = more vapor.

- Andy

It's actually just the opposite. Same way lining up an airhole in a Genny or dripping RBA works. Close to the coil = less TH and more vapor, further from the coil = more TH and less vapor.

 

[donnah]

I just set one up, and have it filled. I should have taken pictures, but I didn't. Next time I change wicks in one of mine, I will. I'm just using sterile cotton balls, like you get at the pharmacy or grocery. Just find the grain in the cotton, and tear a strip along the grain. It takes a little trial and error to find out how much to use. Just whatever will pull through the coil without messing up the coil. I just twist the very end, and wet it with my lips, kind of like threading a sewing needle, and thread it through. Then trim the ends to size. The wick just sits on the ledges above the juice channels.

alright... microcoil installed (30g wrapped around 1/16 drill bit), cotton threaded through the coil, tails of the wick sitting on the ledge... came out to .8ohms (lower than what I was shooting for) I soaked the wick but I'm letting it sit for a little while. I used to use cotton back when I recoiled my vivi novas and stopped using it because it was so easy to burn. I've got the Provari set to 2.9

5 minutes later... Um.. YEA.. that's pretty good! Let's try it on the Roller...that's really good too, lots more vapor than I was getting on my first build with ekowool and the figure 8 wick. I've got the coil as close to the air hole as I can get without touching it.

10 minutes later... .8 is too hot on the Roller, even with a half charged batt. 2.9v on the Provari is perfect though. Geez I wish I had got more than one Provari "cone"

 

[Cid78]

I think there may be a few variables here. My wick had to be broken in for about half a day before the flavor really came through, so you might give it some time. As far as the vapor, I believe someone said the distance between your coil and the air hole can affect this, so you might try getting the coil a bit closer to the air hole if you can. I've not tried it myself yet so I can't speak to its validity, but it may be something to keep in mind.

Well, it is freshly build wick, i will use it for a day, and let see..

For me vapor is not too important. Flavour is most important..

1 thing i notice is that this atty is hot. Even at 1.7 ohm, at 10 watts, after a few drags, my Evic tempt alarm was giving me warning. This is never happened before.

Thanks for your answer Tennovan

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[qorax]

It's actually just the opposite. Same way lining up an airhole in a Genny or dripping RBA works. Close to the coil = less TH and more vapor, further from the coil = more TH and less vapor.

That's correct.
And further upwards u go = no vapor or TH at all. Remember, there's a limit for playing... there isn't much area. I'd say just 2-3mm +/- is the limit (+/- from the post level). I keep mine just at the post level and I'm getting pretty nice TH & vapor.

 

[Cid78]

So what is the perfect distance from the air hole to the wick then? It is quite near so far as far as i knew

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[qorax]

So what is the perfect distance from the air hole to the wick then? It is quite near so far as far as i knew

I'm at the post level. Which is 'near', shy of 2mm from the air-hole I believe. Gives out the perfect vape for me, YMMV. U may go below by 0.5mm max (which'd be 'super-near'), but anything further and u risk shorting ur coil out - DANGER !

 

[Cid78]

I'm at the post level. Which is 'near', shy of 2mm from the air-hole I believe. Gives out the perfect vape for me, YMMV. U may go below by 0.5mm max (which'd be 'super-near'), but anything further and u risk shorting ur coil out - DANGER !

Yes Qorax, if too close i am also afraid that it will shorting out.. Anyway, will try to make lower ohm coil, let say 1.3 to 1.4 ohm and see the result..

The draw is a bit too airy for my liking actually. I tried cover the air hole a bit and found that the flavour is better...

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