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[nttdemented]

Well I've managed to go through my work day on a single 18350 with my .8ohm dual coil setup. By the time I felt the vape was unsatisfyingly weak it was down to 3.5v unloaded. But it was very tasty all the way to that point. Put a fresh 18350 when I got home and got slammed in the face with flavor. Perfect way to end a busy day. For reference I vaped 2/3 of the tank on that first 18350 so I haven't been light on my vapinf throughout my day.

 

[RedhatPat]

Me too, just bought two of them -- thanks ceejay, you da man. What a great threa we got here folks

RHP

 

[blake28]

man that build looks better than mine and i've refilled twice and it's working ok

you're possibly using too much cotton. just put enough cotton to reach the channels

Thank you for your input, this must be my problem, cuz i. Either using to little or too much.... After I took the cotton out of that coil, it was scorched. So, I just need to figure out the perfect amount to use. What a PITA!! Lol, I just get aggravated when it hits perfect for 1/2 the day and out of nowhere, it's burnt! I'll keep at it.

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[ceejay]

Thank you for your input, this must be my problem, cuz i. Either using to little or too much.... After I took the cotton out of that coil, it was scorched. So, I just need to figure out the perfect amount to use. What a PITA!! Lol, I just get aggravated when it hits perfect for 1/2 the day and out of nowhere, it's burnt! I'll keep at it.

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yea if the cotton is scorched, the wick is too thick. when cotton is soaked in juice it expands a little bit.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'd wager that keeping all those 18650's of yours in rotation vapdivrr explains why you have a lot longer battery life

RHP

your absolutely right, but although I have 10 only 5 are used for my tube mods and the other 5 are used for my reo. I don't mix batterys for both devices because it seems that my tube mods slightly slightly make a depression in the battery nipple, which is no good for the reo.

 

[vapdivrr]

Don't want to interrupt the (KFL/cotton/mech only thread) to much , but this is the best setup for me by far and thought some may be interested.

Russian with vertical hollow coil and hemp wick....more info here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/378875-just-hemp-16.html#post11014899

maybe that's what I missed. I have tried this same set-up a couple of times and just couldn't get consistent wicking. looking at your build I see a load of wick material, this must be the missing factor. when I did this build, the vapes I did get were definitely awesome. thanks will try a lot more cotton.

 

[vapdivrr]

I think I must agree. One thing I noticed is that I have to take harder draws to keep the flavor full. If I take the soft draws I was used to taking the flavor drops off slightly but not so much as to get a dry hit, it just fades slightly. But just a single solid 2 second hit and I get a very satisfying vape. And if I man up and take a long hit I get a mouthfull of flavor. I think I'm feeling a little tighter in the lungs when I chain vape but nothing to bad.

How would you say the vape would change if I go with 28 gauge and do the same ohms in single or dual coil setups?

if you go with 28g for a single coil at .8Ω it may not be as smooth and could be slightly warmer but should heat up faster but is a great vape. but if your going to use 28g for a 1.6 ohm coil then not in the same flavor category. now using the 28g for a dual coil would most likely result in a lower overall resistance. in order to achieve the same resistance with 28g you would need to do a lot more wraps which may result in a lot more lag time. this dual coil will be a lot of wire for sure, actually to much. I think if you are to use 28g for a dual coil you must lower the resistance of each coil to about 1-ohm. if you could manage the lower resistance and get the right balance the 28g ultimately should be a better vape then the 30g. in all my builds I just have found the thicker wire better for flavor.

 

[blake28]

yea if the cotton is scorched, the wick is too thick. when cotton is soaked in juice it expands a little bit.

My new build has less cotton in it, & so far it's doing pretty good, but it doesn't seem to be hitting as hard as it use to. My biggest issue is definitely getting the right size of cotton in the coil for sure!

My biggest question is if it is done correctly, can u just vape regularly on the kfl or will u always have to perform dry pulls & such to get it to keep from getting dry?

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[turbocad6]

maybe that's what I missed. I have tried this same set-up a couple of times and just couldn't get consistent wicking. looking at your build I see a load of wick material, this must be the missing factor. when I did this build, the vapes I did get were definitely awesome. thanks will try a lot more cotton.

the main reason you need so much wick is because without it you will also draw air around the wick, completely bypassing the coil, by filling the sides and sealing it you force all airflow to pass through the coil

 

[slavkov]

Yees I know I'm stupid. But do you think it's safe to continue to use this makrolon. The reason for the look is 10secs with lime eliquid

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[Dusty_D]

Yees I know I'm stupid. But do you think it's safe to continue to use this makrolon. The reason for the look is 10secs with lime eliquid

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I would not..


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[Lord Vaako]

Wow, wow, wow!!! Time out Lord!!! Please do yourself a very, very big favor. Chill!!!!! We are not going to war. We're just building a coil. You will get through it. We all did. So will you. Microcoils are not hard to build but to the noob it will take a little effort. Once you're through it, you'll realize it is not hard and you'll wonder why you fussed so much.


Start with vapedvrr's video. He uses 26 ga but don't worry about that. It works for your 30 ga as well. Make yours ten wraps. You need something that is about 2mm in diamter to wrap your wire around. Do you have anything like that? A 5/64ths" drill bit ='s 2mm. Do you have any drill bits?

Don't worry about your wick at this point. That comes very last. Just concentrate on making your coil using VapeDvvr's method.

So, I've gotta give even more props to VapeDivr again for this video. I finally went cotton and got it working perfectly. Don't think I'll be using Silica again. The key to this whole thing is making sure the end of your wicks don't extend down into the channels where the threads start. So far it's been working great for me and haven't had a dry hit. If your wicks are too long and go into the channels, it will eventually go dry.

Also, he says it in the video, but I want to stress that your hands have to be cleaned before you roll the cotton. It will take on even the lightest scent on your hands, so keep that in mind.

I have not been able to find, or least a confirmed 5/64th drill bit or 16g (2mm thick) syringe tip) around, and might have to just go buy one. I did find a nail that was twice as thick as my Zap syringe tip that I used. My coils are now reading 2.2 on my Provari, which I'm not sure is good. I believe that I might have 11 wraps though instead of 10 with 30g kanthal from LightningVapes. Any thoughts on that? It's been working fine, so I don't wanna mess with it unless you guys see this as a big problem?

 

[aziffel]

2.2ohm on a provari--just about perfect to be able to jackup the power if you need to or turn it down if its too much.

 

[Lord Vaako]

2.2ohm on a provari--just about perfect to be able to jackup the power if you need to or turn it down if its too much.

Thanks for the reply, but just wanted to verify - 2.2ohms is just about perfect? I'm vaping at 4v currently with it. Thanks again.

 

[aziffel]

@ 2.2 I would prollly be at 4.5v,maybe a little higher.Provape stated in 2010(when I got my first provari) that a 2.2 ohm atty or carto would give the best range of adjustability without overloading the amp limit on the button.Since then the amp limit has been raised by 1 amp to 3.5 amps.It will still throw trouble codes(E1,E2 etc....) if you happen to short the coil or try to throw too much power on it.

 

[Bronze]

Thanks for the reply, but just wanted to verify - 2.2ohms is just about perfect? I'm vaping at 4v currently with it. Thanks again.

Lord, it's perfect if you like it. Your opinion is all that matters. Trust me!

 

[Lord Vaako]

Thanks guys. Bronze, I remember you telling me that my 1.8 was perfect before so I just wanted to be sure it was safe to run with 2.2. This one might have an extra coil though...my eyesight sucks unfortunately lol. It's really kicking ... so far though.

 

[Bronze]

Thanks guys. Bronze, I remember you telling me that my 1.8 was perfect before so I just wanted to be sure it was safe to run with 2.2. This one might have an extra coil though...my eyesight sucks unfortunately lol. It's really kicking ... so far though.

1.8 was perfect for me but I'm not you. Keep fiddle farting around with your setups Lord. You'll learn what you like the most. Everyone is different. It gets to a point where there are not a whole lot of differences between some setups. But resistance and wicking material do make a difference.

 

[qorax]

0.9Ω, 30Amps thru 18650 ~ and a BAM!

 

[nttdemented]

Why did I try sub-ohming God? Now I really need to get a ton of Kayfuns and Nemes. At first the little EVOD/Mini Ego setups I got where surprisingly capable as backup/snack vape devices now they feel absolutely puny in comparison. I used to be able to go a few hours without touching my Kayfun with my rebuilt EVODs but now they are just not doing it for me.

I think I may post the first listing on the classies.