Lower the coil closer to the air hole? Seems the general consensus is no more than 2mm gap.
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Ok...7 wrap coil measuring 2.5mm in diameter, 7 twist measures 1.99ohm on cotton, 4.2 volt fully charged AW 18500... great vapor production, lost a little throat hit..have to wait a few for it to seat in for flavor report, 24mg Bobas. I'm going to pop a fresh Aspire coil in the Vivi and load it up...we'll see who wins this one, if the Aspire takes it there might be a KFL+ and a Nemesis Matte up for grabs.
Already built Chad, so can't show ya tonight...my coil sits 1-2mm above the air hole, my wrap is uniform and very clean all the way across with a very slight drag on the cotton wick when nudged side to side, I showed my first build to the pro at my local shop, best first time build he'd ever seen and said it was spot on...I'm thinking I might just be burnt out on Bobas and need to try another flavor, when I tried other KFL's belonging to the local shop guys the flavor was fantastic, trying theirs inspired me to buy one...thanks for the tips fellas, to be continued.
did you say 2.5mm id? try dropping that to 1.5mm id and watch your flavor pop, drop a gage and go to 10 wraps if you have too
YOU NAILED IT. thank you for responding.sip vs gulp, sub ohm clouds are like chugging the vape, lower power is like sipping the vape, nothing wrong with sipping and some may enjoy that more, def more stealthy
if your vape is too hot then you need more airflow. even at .27 ohms the vape shouldn't be hot, it should be a huge gulp but not hot. kayfun will never really ever do very high power well, the airflow is the limitation
i posted on page 136 about getting a sore throat with every build i made no matter how well it came out. my issue has been resolved by googling for hours and stumbling onto a thread about the airflow on kayfuns. i found that when i removed some material on my bottom insulator to get flush with the top of my mod, i had not re-aligned my center pin air hole with the exterior inlet hole. i know the design is such this should not matter, but trust me it cooled my vape to a point where i can still vape even with a sore throat(tho i have cut-back to allow a full recovery, hopefully.)
when i inspected the center positive post and the hole in the base where it rests i saw that there is a cicular channel for airflow regardless of center pin placement but when you simply align the flathead slot on the center post with your ext. airhole it give enough added airflow to cool the vape. it also makes a slight whistling sound that i distinctly remember from when i first build my kayfun before making the flush-mount modification.
Thanks Cad for starting me in the right direction. you were absolutely right. i have a better understanding of vapor physics after spending a few days trying different things and with your help finding what i had done to screw up my KL.
After much testing with my mechs I'd suggest 5/64" ID if you're going to go for .8ohms. Less chance of burnt taste. I've found that 1-1.2ohms works the best at that ID size on the Kayfuns when running straight mechanical as you'll be hitting roughly 12 watts with a fully charged battery.
On the subject of flavor longetivity I've foubd I can go about 4 days (3 tank fulls on each KF) without any flavor droo off using Big Willie's Custard on one and an HHV NET juice on the other. Mt Baker's Dutch Apple Pie will last 3 tank fills and need a rewick and dry burn as it really gunks up but with the two aforementioned juices I can keep refilling even after 3 tank fills.
Hey Diver. Good to see you. Yes, I have a Neme clone showing up today I believe. At least that's what the tracker says. I already have a Phoenix RBA wired up. 28ga., 1.5mm ID, 8-wraps. It's coming in at 1.0 ohms. I was shooting for 0.8 ohms.
Hey truman. I was just talking about silica wick w/KFL. I use 30ga, 2mm inside diameter, 10-wraps. Comes in at 1.9 ohms and it is far better than the equivalent resistance using 28ga (2.35mm ID). Night and day. The 30ga is much more responsive and provides significantly better TH and flavor. I use this set up on a Provari at 3.6 volts.
mornin all,
so, this morning i finally got around to building a micro with cotton. however, it's in my 91%, not that it matters
it's made from 28g and at 1.6ohm. man, i don't know what took me soooo long, i've been missing out! the flavor is off the charts! right up there with my ceramic cup atty's... i made a custom blend of 2 parts caramel and 1 part french vanilla. MMMM
so, this morning i finally got around to building a micro with cotton. however, it's in my 91%, not that it matters
it's made from 28g and at 1.6ohm. man, i don't know what took me soooo long, i've been missing out! the flavor is off the charts! right up there with my ceramic cup atty's... i made a custom blend of 2 parts caramel and 1 part french vanilla. MMMM 
I think I'm done with 5/64" 12wrap 28 gauge coils in the KFL. I'm going to try my previous size 3/32" with around 8 wraps. I'm not getting a satisfying enough vape out of the 2mm coils with the NET's I'm using and I'm having to change the wicks on a daily basis so far because they can't keep up.
One of the reasons I love the KFL is for the awesome flavour and those coils ain't getting me that.
More feedback later..
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One of the reasons I love the KFL is for the awesome flavour and those coils ain't getting me that.
More feedback later..
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OK fellas, tell me if this one passes muster, 1.5mm 28 gauge 9/10, 1.5mm off the duct
measures out at 1.2 on the button. I changed the liquid to Halo Tribeca 24mg, burned out on the bobas. So far so good, tons of vapor and the flavor seems there and will probably get better with use
thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.
OK fellas, tell me if this one passes muster, 1.5mm 28 gauge 9/10, 1.5mm off the duct measures out at 1.2 on the button. I changed the liquid to Halo Tribeca 24mg, burned out on the bobas. So far so good, tons of vapor and the flavor seems there and will probably get better with use thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.
Looks almost exactly like mine...right down to the TriBeCa!
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Just rewicked my 5/64" ID 10 wrap of 28awg coil (1.5ohms) with less cotton than before and I'm finally being abke to hit it at 15 watts without signs of a dry hit! Flavor is through the roof once more!
Oh and I sanded down the set screw on my KFL+ by 2mm +/- and I can finally use the screw and keep it as airy as the non+ KFL. I can also open it up further a bit and make it tighter. SM should've made their screws shorter for sure!
Oh and I sanded down the set screw on my KFL+ by 2mm +/- and I can finally use the screw and keep it as airy as the non+ KFL. I can also open it up further a bit and make it tighter. SM should've made their screws shorter for sure!
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Just rewicked my 5/64" ID 10 wrap of 28awg coil (1.5ohms) with less cotton than before and I'm finally being abke to hit it at 15 watts without signs of a dry hit! Flavor is through the roof once more!
Oh and I sanded down the set screw on my KFL+ by 2mm +/- and I can finally use the screw and keep it as airy as the non+ KFL. I can also open it up further a bit and make it tighter. SM should've made their screws shorter for sure!
Thank you for this. I decided to hold off on my rebuild and just re-wicked with even less cotton than I was already using. I also cut the tails shorter, so that they are not crowding the deck area. I've got it set at 10W for now, and will give it one more shot.. but that's it.
Edit: Would it be too much trouble to ask you to post a picture of your coil/wick in the chimney section? Please..
OK fellas, tell me if this one passes muster, 1.5mm 28 gauge 9/10, 1.5mm off the duct…measures out at 1.2 on the button. I changed the liquid to Halo Tribeca 24mg, burned out on the bobas. So far so good, tons of vapor and the flavor seems there and will probably get better with use…thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.
awesome, the only thing I could suggest is to maybe try just a little less cotton density on your next build, not much, maybe 10% less or so, yours doesn't looked overstuffed enough to choke it but a little less density may help a little more in the flavor popping part
Thank you for this. I decided to hold off on my rebuild and just re-wicked with even less cotton than I was already using. I also cut the tails shorter, so that they are not crowding the deck area. I've got it set at 10W for now, and will give it one more shot.. but that's it.
Edit: Would it be too much trouble to ask you to post a picture of your coil/wick in the chimney section? Please..
Sure I'm redoing my other KF with the same build right now. I'll take some pics and post em later.
Paps X / KFL / 1.4 ohm micro coil and cotton wick / Suicide Bunny Mother's Milk.
Mmmmmmmmmm. Heaven.
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